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ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3047 XPJan-22-2017 11:48 PM

One of the things we know about Alien Covenant is it's the first in a planned trilogy,but is Ridley Scott going to direct them all,should he direct them all?One if the biggest problems with the Star Wars prequels was that unlike the originals George Lucas directed them front to back,thus allowing for virtually no outside help that could have helped filter his ideas and make them better.Now it's to early to tell if Covenant will live up to expectations(hopefully it does)but im certain there are a lot of fans that wish he backed of after Prometheus and allowed some newer talent into the series.After all it's worked before with Aliens,and he's also passed on Blade Runner to newer hands.Should he direct the next few,should he try new directors?One thing I've thought is maybe Neill Blomkamp could do one if these sequels,prove he can work with the series before he can make his Alien 5.What do you guys think?Who do think could be a good choice to direct an Alien film should Ridley pass it another?

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28 Responses to Passing the torch

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FacehuggerMember500 XPJan-23-2017 7:26 AM

Ridley learned from his mistakes, lets give him a chance to prove himself.

Obsession is a Power, not a Curse ;)

Myrddin365

FacehuggerMember425 XPJan-23-2017 12:40 PM

Ridley Scott is one of the most celebrated and talented directors alive. He doesn't need to pass the torch, but he can if he wants to. 

Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3047 XPJan-23-2017 12:51 PM

 That's exactly what what im trying say.Thank Myrrdin.Movie fan i do agree Ridley has learned from his mistakes.This film sat in limbo until he made The Martian,a film which he admitted revived his interest in science fiction.

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SteveRogers1973

FacehuggerMember203 XPJan-23-2017 2:42 PM

Ridley Scott is presently 79 years old.  I don't mean to sound morbid but if he's going to make 2 more movies...he doesn't have any time to waste.  Has anyone heard about time line on the next two?  Real world not canon.

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3047 XPJan-23-2017 3:41 PM

You know his age crossed my mind,but i didn't want to call it into question.The Martian proved he's still sharp as ever.I don't think age should have anything thing to do with it.When it comes to age the real question that should be brought up is who could succeed him,and im not talking about just Blomkamp.

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ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3047 XPJan-23-2017 3:42 PM

As for when the next film is expected,i've heard 2019 but i don't know if thats a fact.

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Stan Winston (deceased)

FacehuggerMember173 XPJan-23-2017 6:02 PM

He should have called it a day after The Martian; end on a high (his highest in fact). When he is kept well away from influencing the script (and he is blessed with a quality writer), things go well. Because there is no doubting he can translate a remarkable screenplay into a speechless cinefilm. But he is helpless when that is not the case.

Some say his photography is beautiful, but beauty has to be more than skin-deep. There has to be substance and depth to the story otherwise it is a hollow, superficial husk. Beggers belief how he has any control over the franchise. 20CFox must have lost the plot (pun intended).

sp_jockey

OvomorphMember23 XPJan-23-2017 7:25 PM

Let Scott stay in it for as long as he wants to. 

Blomkamp would be a big risk. So far all he's directed are movies set in urban ghettos with thinly veiled social commentary. Not in my Alien movies, thanks. 

Starlogger

ChestbursterMember907 XPJan-23-2017 8:12 PM

Scott is still making FANTASTIC films. He, along with a LOT of other people, ESPECIALLY HR Giger and Shusett et al., made this franchise work. I agree there should be some sort of passing of the torch, but only when Sir Scott is unable to do it, and it MUST be a carefully thought out plan. To me, Scott's vision of the Alien "realm" is the only one. Even "Aliens" was too slick and Hollywood for me. Prometheus, for all its faults, was back to the Ridley Scott way of things, where they should've stayed.

Can we Clone Sir Ridley and keep him going forever? He's about the only one I would feel justified in cloning...

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3047 XPJan-23-2017 9:00 PM

You know i gotta admit i didn't completely love The Martian.I certainly enjoyed it thats for sure,but it's not one of my favorites of his, certainly not on par with Alien or Blade Runner.Blomkamp is a huge risk primarily thanks to the District 9 follow ups.For starters I'm not even crazy about District 9 in the first place but it's still his best movie.Elysium is enjoyable,but clearly a case of style over substance.And Chappie i don't think i can say anything that hasn't already been said.That's why i think it wouldn't be a bad idea for him to direct one of Covenant's follow ups.Let him prove his worth with the series directing stories in an established story line before he makes his films.Blomkamp might be better with a quality writer much like what was said about Ridley Scott.

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ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3047 XPJan-23-2017 9:28 PM

sp_jocky,just found out it might not happen after all.

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Chris

DeaconAdmin19646 XPJan-28-2017 10:24 AM

I hope we don't lose Scott before he's finished telling his Alien story. I can't think of many directors who I think could carry on the mantle in the same way Scott has envisioned. Blomkamp has my vote for aesthetic,  but in terms of storytelling - not sure. 

shoulders of neptune

OvomorphMember29 XPJan-28-2017 12:58 PM

Ridley Scott or James Cameron.

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3047 XPJan-28-2017 7:02 PM

Is that a question neptune?

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shoulders of neptune

OvomorphMember29 XPJan-29-2017 3:53 AM

It's not a question. In my opinion these are the two directors best suited for the Alien Universe.

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3047 XPJan-29-2017 3:55 AM

Understood.On that i agree neptune.

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Aorta

FacehuggerMember316 XPJan-29-2017 6:14 AM

I don't know about Cameron, his style is so bombastic and American. In terms of big brutal action yes, he's your guy but Ridley's vision of the Alien universe is more to my taste, there's just something otherworldly and unsettling about his aesthetic, a subtlety and artfulness Cameron can't match.

You can bet a successor or two or three have already been set, should the worst come to pass. And there's no point in bashing Ridley or his skills as a film maker, to do so is just juvenile. If he doesn't entertain you, avoid his product. Pretty simple.

Lone

PraetorianMember2674 XPJan-29-2017 6:37 AM

Filmaking is what keeps Sir Ridley going, everyone who has worked with him talks about his vision, enthusiasm and boundless energy. He is a human juggernaut.

It's all down to attitude, by his own admission, on a film set he is like a kid in a sweet shop!

I think he will be around for quite some time, he is by no means finished when it comes to surprising us.

As a side note he gave up cigars a while ago, plays tennis regularly, had a knee op a few years ago.

 

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Neomorph

ChestbursterMember731 XPJan-29-2017 7:05 AM

@Aorta

I agree with a lot there except Cameron's sense of art, this guy also had a serious background in art direction.

Of course this is a matter of subjective opinion but lets not forget that Cameron designed the frickin' Alien Queen and altered the big chap design to the new Alien Warrior, among a lot of other things. I think he also designed the dropship and the power loader.

He is very good at art direction to say the least, even though I also prefer Ridley's art style overall (with a few exceptions)  

Neomorph

ChestbursterMember731 XPJan-29-2017 7:08 AM

Looking at the trailer for AC, one thing that sticks out in particular is the Covenant dropship, it resembles Cameron's Colonial Marines version. 

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3047 XPJan-29-2017 12:33 PM

If i had to back up a new director,I'd say Denis Villenueve.Ridley's trusted him with Blade Runner 2049,Arrival has become one of the award season's top films,and he just might get the Dune job.Alien would complete the circle.After all Alien was a result of the demise of Jodowrosky's Dune(H.R. Giger and Dan O'Bannon were both working on the film when they met.)Ridley was even attached to making Dune after Alien and before Blade Runner.Villenueve might be the right choice.

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Neomorph

ChestbursterMember731 XPJan-29-2017 1:34 PM

I can totally see Villenueve directing an Alien film, or Rian Johnson. Both these directors have made pretty darn dark and critically acclaimed films.

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3047 XPJan-29-2017 1:50 PM

Rian Johnson would be great too,im curious to see what he can do with Star Wars.While i haven't seen Arrival yet,I have seen Prisoners and Sicario and they're both fantastic.Blade Runner 2049 is the movie im the most excited about next to Alien Covenant this year.

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ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3047 XPJan-29-2017 1:58 PM

Also Neomorph,both Johnson and Villenueve were approached for Terminator Genisys.I can't help but wonder at what may have been if either of them got the job,especially Johnson.Looper already borrowed heavily from Terminator.

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Neomorph

ChestbursterMember731 XPJan-29-2017 2:03 PM

It would've turned out fantastic I'm sure, I still think Genisys is an OK popcorn flick but oh boy how the outcome could be better with above mentioned directors.

Looper was a surprise to me, what an amazing film! 

Alien Covenant, VIII: The Last Jedi, and Blade Runner 2049 are the three films I'm mostly looking forward to.

Honorable mentions: Kong Skull Island and Justice League 

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3047 XPJan-29-2017 2:10 PM

My top 3 are identical.I like Terminator Genisys more than T3 and Salvation,but those two would have done a much better job.Some honarable mentions of mine:Ghost In The Shell regardless of the controversy,War For the Planet of the Apes(curious what they're doing with Nova)and while i'm not a Marvel fanatic,there offerings this year are promising.I actually haven't seen any of the recent DC movies.

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QueenElizabethShaw

ChestbursterMember554 XPJan-29-2017 2:52 PM

I'm going to have to go with Danny Boyle on this one. He brings something to his films that is similar to what Ridley and Blomkamp bring to theirs. 28 Days Later and Sunshine were excellent.

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3047 XPJan-29-2017 3:24 PM

Excellent choice's.Sunshine has a heavy Alien vibe to it.28 Days Later is a masterpiece,Which brings me to my next suggestion.Alex Garland,not only is he the writer of those films,he also wrote the very underrated Dredd,and most of all,his excellent directorial debut Ex Machina.I'm very excited about his next film Annihilation.

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