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Your explanations for the Queen...

Your explanations for the Queen...

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ChestbursterMember554 XPJan-20-2017 1:02 PM

I've seen this topic touched on in several other threads and figured it deserves it's own.

So, is the Queen an inherent role to the xeno species? Or an accidental mutation of it?

Did the Queen come about through an egg morph that somehow spontaneously evolved? Or is the Queen actually the second generation of the Deacon?

Moreover, do you think Ridley will actually give us an explanation for the Queen in AC or the other films? If not would you be ok with not knowing?

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NeomorphMember1823 XPJan-24-2017 10:32 AM


my theory is the sj is either face hugged in cryo, so unaware of his situation and the ship crashes due to the chestburster, or , he knows and crashes the derelict on purpose on an uninhabited world knowing the consequences of going to an inhabited world. this would explain the warning signal for others to stay away


FacehuggerMember236 XPJan-24-2017 2:50 PM

Ali lets analise that

Do we know engineers are in cryo while the ship is flying to the destiny? We know in prometheus the engineer was in cryo but the ship was not in flying mode.

If the engineer is in cryo we have to assume the blue mist is a security measure they made to keep eggs dormant,if that is the case how could a egg hatch,it would contradict the security theory...and also if the mist is security why did the egg hatch when kane touches the mist. I lean towards egg mist.

So if engineer is in cryo,the eggs are simply there as cargo, would they let those eggs simply there,with no security measure,with no other method of storage, its hard for me to even take tthat assemblence as plausible.

Picture would they use the eggs as weapons. They would have to grab them ,toss them,shoot them somehow..hows that possible and logic. The black goo urns can be handled..the eggs cant be handled if not an again how would they use them as that ship a suicide ship? Do their suits xeno style have this ability to blend in? Doesnt look like it in prometheus we saw its not the case.

Now lets go further, the sj awakes...even with amnesia he would see a dead facehugger on the ground dead after the impregnation, woudnt he see it, lets assume he wakes up he doesnt see his broken cryo glass or damaged cryo, he doesnt see the hugger body, he goes on with his agenda, woudnt he check the status of the eggs? Woudnt the super inteligent ship warned him one egg hatched or the cryo was damaged, or theres one less egg in good status? I think it would immediatly say to the engineer the status considering the mighty cargo.

I like this idea

On the rest of the derelict theres bodys of xenos and engineers a dead queen etc. Basicly the idea they stumbled upon this specie and captured it...the whole hive. Queen eggs and some xenos to study them and thus creating the black goo and more advanced suits,hence the difference in sj more organic and prometheus engineer more advanced bionic not so organic.this is a scientific engineer juggernaut rather then a war one.

Would explain egg cargo logically.

Would explain the crash logically.

Would explain the millions or thousands of years old logically crash timeframe.

Would explain black goo.

Would explain beacon,but not a stay way beacon,rather a sos one.

Would explain a queen emerging on lv 426.

Would give a interesting logical connection from the last film to aliens as true engineer movie story.

What do you think and where do you guys see flaws?honestly its the most plausible and less flawed theory considering what we know canon.

Now bare in mind i think ridley switches his ways constantly and we cant deny that his interviews are proof of fact. The movies suffered a lot of changes as we all know and that shows a guy who doesnt know how to tell the story he wants and gives the feel of making up as we go.

Honestly...i hope he doesnt make more plot holes in ac then we have now. The egg creation gonna give a whole lot insight on this thread.


OvomorphMember89 XPJan-25-2017 9:34 PM


the queen's already been explained. She's like the leader


NeomorphMember1823 XPJan-26-2017 7:31 AM


remember in alien the facehugger crawls up into the rafters after falling off kane so not a given he would see it but other films support ur point. if he does see it them he knows his fate and decides to crash the ship himself. the alien river of pain book gives us a version of what happened on the derelict. there even a queen and engineer dead but clearly in the middle of a hand to hand fight. the queen has speared the engineer with its tail but the engineer, 9ft tall, has rammed his hand down the queens throat, with the assumption given he is ripping its inner jaw out. the book gives the impression there was an alien infestation on the derelict and the engineers were fighting them, though whether this is canon or not is debateable. the function of the blue mist is also up for debate. warning system or something to preserve the eggs for transport? the mist suggests there is still power and so does the warning message. if it is indeed a warning system, dallas and lambert, who were topside, would have heard something but there is no indication they do. if the book is canon, then the engineers become foul of an infestation, and either crash deliberately or the crash is caused by the emerging chest burster and subsequent infestation. there is no evidence to support whether or not the engineers r in cryo during flight but in all the movies, the humans r in cryo during flight and due to fact we r of the same genetic make up, it would suggest even the engineers require cryo sleep for a similar long journey. we don't see any cryo pods in alien so its plausible the facehugger gets the engineer the same way ripley is tagged at the start of AR. it burns through the casing of the pod.


OvomorphMember89 XPJan-26-2017 2:14 PM

who wants to place a bet that the blue mist is just an effect that doesn't make it to the new movies? i'll start.

20 bucks says theyre leaving that one in the gutter. when I first watched alien, i thought it was how the eggs knew something was around. wakey wakey facehuggers! but now i think it was just something that may or may not have had a purpose and we aint gettin a reason now. its gonna be one of those things that nobody ever really gives a solid answer for


NeomorphMember1823 XPJan-26-2017 2:18 PM

it could very well be dropped but I think it had a purpose. it makes a noise when broken so could be something to alert the hugger. don't think ridley expected alien to do so well and warrant sequels so he might have just put some things in for a cool one off thing and the mist could be one of these. would be good to get an answer though ur right


FacehuggerMember236 XPJan-26-2017 10:34 PM

Exactly ali. And whatever we come up with theres allways gonna be a little contradiction,altho i think we are close.

But if he makes it a event post ac...then how can it be :3

In the interview of prometheus he said we had to assume the derelict was a "brother" of the lv 223 juggernaut.and that it came from lv223 aswell carrying those as cargo and something happened but it came from lv223 to another destination and crashed lv 426.

But many fans dont see that and spme cant assume that as certainty. I see lv 223 as their military science zone and i would like to return :)


OvomorphMember89 XPJan-26-2017 11:33 PM

i have answers now. i know the queen. i know who she is.....she's the final act! she is what must become! its the cycle of death. the nature of the weapon. shes the ubermensch, the guru, the final form. she is why one lone drone egg is the end of planets. a child is hug a face. a child is born to make an egg. a child is born to hug...another face! a queen is born to end a race........and when the race is laid to waste...the queen and her soldiers..they die with haste!


OvomorphMember89 XPJan-26-2017 11:34 PM

my eyes are open


FacehuggerMember236 XPJan-26-2017 11:51 PM

Id you gotta let me smoke what u smoking...certain time of the night your comments get crazyyy...ahahahn! make laugh in a good sense

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