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Space Jockey will be in Alien: Covenant!

Space Jockey will be in Alien: Covenant!

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FacehuggerMember500 XPDec-01-2016 4:39 AM

GameSpot confirmed that a space jockey will be featured in Alien: Covenant! 

Be sure to tell me how you feel about this exciting news! :D

Obsession is a Power, not a Curse ;)

16 Responses to Space Jockey will be in Alien: Covenant!

Chris

DeaconAdmin19965 XPDec-01-2016 8:42 AM

I'm sorry what? Haha do you have a link to this report? They could be confusing the terms Space Jockey and Engineer. Most people consider them to be the same thing now, it's only us hard core fanatics who still consider them to be different beings.

Dark Nebula

XenomorphStaff1167 XPDec-01-2016 8:56 AM

Maybe he meant this article.

 

 

Shasta cyclone

FacehuggerMember281 XPDec-01-2016 9:22 AM

on that original pic ( to me ) it looks like a figure is behind the control chair.....

you can barely make it out.

 

I'm new to this forum. I'm Fascinated by the creative ideas and opinions this forum offers on this franchise.

thank you for the great reads! 

BigDave

DeaconMember10237 XPDec-01-2016 10:17 AM

Indeed as in the other Topic HERE

I noticed what looks like a Engineer and maybe the Space Jockey Helmet...  I have marked them out in that Topic and also the position they are in relation to the Set.

Could this be from the movie? Who knows... it could be a Red Herring from Prometheus... time will tell.

If we are to see Engineers as far as similar to LV-223 ones, which Wayne Haag confirmed they followed the same Atheistic as in Prometheus but he also mentioned about the Engineer Culture and so he could have been referring to the Old Style Engineers that was in the Deleted Scene... or then could be on about LV-223 Style of which we had no official or leaked images of them..

Until maybe now?

As far as Engineers go... there has been a bit of a hint now at a different race.....  i know they had decided to please Fan Boys by giving us more Xeno action and the poster looks more Alien Xeno than anything...

I hope they have not given in to Fans Dislike of the Engineers and are going to show us the Space Jockey and Engineers are now TWO different Races.... 

I think they should be different but only slightly but still be connected.....   Like how Man is created in Gods image... and Angels are shown to be like Man too...

So i hope for a Space Jockey that is larger in size... but still very much Humanoid... even if its slightly less Human than the Engineers.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Movie fan

FacehuggerMember500 XPDec-01-2016 10:20 AM

@ Chris

 I know that they might of confused the two, but the image does look like a Space Jockey.

@ Dark Nebula

Yes, that is the right article.

Do you think it looks like a Space Jockey?

Obsession is a Power, not a Curse ;)

Movie fan

FacehuggerMember500 XPDec-01-2016 11:29 AM

@ Big Dave

I agree, I hope they do acknowledge that they are both related but not entirely the same.

Obsession is a Power, not a Curse ;)

Shasta cyclone

FacehuggerMember281 XPDec-01-2016 2:57 PM

Maybe this movie "will?" Connect to alien ( 1979 )

i kinda hope so, that way alien 5 ( aka3) can get started..... as long as the story line is good.

Chris

DeaconAdmin19965 XPDec-02-2016 11:51 AM

I agree, the image does look like a Jockey, however that's what we all thought when Prometheus' images and teasers hit as well haha. I'm sure Gamespot confused the terms, but I also hope they differentiate the two on-screen in some way. The Jockey, in my mind, should be the original "keepers of the Xenomorph" and the Engineers, as theorized by concept artist Wayne Haag, are nothing more than poachers, who stole the bio-technology from the Jockey species to be used for their own gain and progression of their race.

Dark Nebula

XenomorphStaff1167 XPDec-02-2016 12:14 PM

Looks like some gamespot employee was fanboying too much after seeing that pic.

Im not sure if he was thinking about the SJ from Alien or the Engineers from Prometheus.

Looks like its one of the Juggernaut ships that David and Shaw used to escape LV-223.The derelict from Alien doesn't have hypersleep chambers next to the pilot chair.

So that could be a flashback scene or a scene when David and Shaw were leaving LV-223.

And yes,there's someone behind the pilot chair that looks like an engineer.If it is an engineer then could it be later edited as a hologram?Or its just someone from the production team who is bald.

Determinism

OvomorphMember43 XPDec-02-2016 3:00 PM

By the title, I thought they were claiming that THE space jockey will be in Covenant. To me, there is only one. The dead one on LV426 where apparently all content, canonical or noncanonical seem to get there Xenomorphs originating from.

Ive heard about elephantlike space jockeys or whatever. To me, Prometheus put an end to all that by clearing up once and for all who the Space Jockey was. Its Clearly an Engineer, nothing more.

I also do not understand where all this talk about different races of engineer or that a whole different species may have been responsible for the Xeno beasts.

Where do you get all that from? We can only deduce so much from the films. We know, by deduction, that a rebel sect or separatist Engineer force was responsible for the disaster on LV223. How else can you explain that the Engineers didn't kill off the human species in the last 2000 years? Other than a civil war or outbreak (caused by civil war). We can deduce that.

But how in the heck are people trying to claim that the Engineers didn't own and buld the ship that we found them on. That they didn't create the junk we see them harboring.......

Sometimes I'm a little taken back by the weird ideas thrown around here. LOL Sorry to offend. .......cheers.

Determinism

OvomorphMember43 XPDec-02-2016 3:03 PM

We did see the Mural which showed the smaller beast next to the Engineer in a submissive posture.

That may lead to how the Engineers discovered the Goo or how they invented it. I think it can be deduced that they had a war with that species.

Beyond that, people are grasping at straws.

BigDave

DeaconMember10237 XPDec-02-2016 3:13 PM

It is to hard to work out from the low resolution of the being....

But i would safely assume a Engineer...

The Space Jockey was a Enigma....  The aim of the Prequels was to explore them and they chose to have them as Bald Humanoids... there was no TWO Races.... only maybe TWO Factions at War.

After Prometheus they decided to Edit the movie that downplayed the Engineers, and removed the Elders and since then it seems they are playing that there is at least One Race above the Engineers as far as Hierarchy and they are thus taking the Multi Layered Approach....   Gods/Angels (some fell) as opposed to a single Race who some had fallen.

A few comments by Wayne Haag hint at stolen technology, and the Engineer borrowed or stole it... but we need to remember Wayne cant go into detail and so the Stealing does not mean from a Completely different Race.....

It could be just as Prometheus Stole Fire from the Other Gods...

So we dont know how far the Stolen Tech comment can be taken it could be the Sacrificial Goo was Stolen and so the Engineers at the start of Prometheus now had a gift they could use to create life...... maybe another Faction Stole this Gift and used it in a different way to create horrors.

So its still pretty hard to say what connection the Space Jockey is to the Engineers..

He has gone from....

A Enigma... to a Engineer, to maybe some being related to the Engineers... either creators, or a creation or both jointly created by something else.

When i look at Gigers Work though on Alien way back as far as 1978 Giger was drawing Bald Humanoids being Sacrificed to produce the Xeno... and these Humans Suits where a bit like the Engineers.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Halloway

OvomorphMember44 XPDec-02-2016 6:34 PM

 

when for very first time they find SJ ,it was siting there for over two thousand year and it was old and fossil,Prometheus happened only thirty years befor that discovery in first Alien,and AC twenty years befor.threfor when all this expeditions happened that SJ was there and couldn't be related to any of this events that took place in past thirty years.

According to Ridley Scott ,they are good and bad angles ,SJ got light coulor flying suit and much bigger than engineers,it seems like he is the good one like the one in opening scene of Prometheus ,the engineer in Prometheus they bit smaller and their flying suit is so similar to looks of xeno in Alien one.they are the bad one.all the bad one destroyed but we don't know what happen to good one,hopefully Shaw will find out and that will give us an idea about SJ.more like finding the truth in past history.

 

Thoughts_Dreams

NeomorphMember1549 XPDec-03-2016 1:40 PM

I would like to have a link to the article before I decide if that is true or not. It might be that they have confused the Space Jockeys and the Engineers. To me it could be that the Engineers had people whose jobs were to keep them safe so in that case the cargo was some WMD’s that turned on the SJ. Just because the Engineers might be in this doesn’t mean that the Space Jockey will be so.

 

Big Dave: I am not sure if many fans dislike the Engineers but rather find them a bit disappointing. There are different scales of dislike, as far as different scales of liking also by the way. Hopefully they will have the SJ’s as some sort of military staff whose jobs were to keep the home planet of the Engineers safe and eventually would also have a role in colonizing other planets.

BigDave

DeaconMember10237 XPDec-04-2016 7:07 AM

Indeed some fans did dislike the Space Jockey/Engineer connection...... but to me i found it great... only the scale was messed up again...

I do think they intended the Space Jockey and Engineers to be the same....

like the Elders and Engineers... they was the same just the Elders Aged eventually.... or something caused this...

But the way they edited Prometheus and comments since.. seems like now the Elders are GONE! 

They are to be replaced by something else.... that is more Godlike and less Frail.....

The Engineers are demoted to being merely as we would use David 8..... they are just Bio-Logical Davids and Bio-Logical Terminators used for the greater Agenda of the Hierarchy above the Engineers...

But some Engineers Rebelled.... this is what i think we are going to be shown.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

DeaconMember10237 XPDec-04-2016 7:08 AM

As far as this image... again... it opens up a debate if we ASSUME its from Covenant.... but it could be from Prometheus as stated before....

I think they are trying to throw some Red Herrings to put us off the Trail..

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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