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Vickers robot theory still lingers

Vickers robot theory still lingers

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Centauri

PraetorianMember2267 XPAug-05-2016 12:18 PM

We all saw Vickers get crushed by the juggernaut derelict ship in Prometheus. Janek asking her if she was a robot. Her strange behavior as representative of the weyland company and "daughter" of Peter Weyland raised questions that even the film hinted at.

Till this day I still question her paranoia and her attitude, and body language in the film as there maybe more to it.

She seemed very different than David, yet..similar....

almost a kind of jealous big sister to David. David refers to her as "mum".  I remember the Nostromo crew calling its ship "mother". It may not connect any dots but it's still very interesting to think about.

Vickers acted more like an android who was in denial of actually beying an android/synthetic/robot.

It echoes Bladerunner replicants who were indeed robotic... fighting their mortality and why they have animosity towards humans. Could Weyland been a fan of Tyrell and own a replicant as a sort of admiration and re-fashioning of his personal models? Giving her false memories of actually beying a biological daughter to Weyland? When he treated her so cold, was this the reason? Would this explain why Weyland considered David more of a son versus to Vickers? causing Vickers's jealousy towards David to grow like a step sister who hasn't been considered family? I know this topic is a bit wacky but replicants were so close to beying human that Vickers almost fit those characteristics.

What do you think?

 

 

 

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 "Must be something we haven't seen yet.."__Bishop

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41 Responses to Vickers robot theory still lingers

S.M

XenomorphMember1234 XPAug-07-2016 4:28 PM

Indeed.

 

"Or is she simply a human female with PMT, which can turn the nicest of us, into dragons? :D"

2 years asleep gotsta muck around with ones cycles.

Diz

FacehuggerMember127 XPAug-10-2016 7:34 AM

Well, it's all interesting speculation, whether it's well-grounded or not.  Doesn't need any bearing on anything.  It just is. 

We are all discussing things with complete strangers here.  How do I know who I'm talking to?  What does it matter if one of YOU was an android? 

I don't think she was an android, just a ***** on wheels.  Yes, it's interesting that she's already out of her cryo-pod, but maybe it has advanced features such as auto wake up, tied into the ship's computers and proximity alert.

I think Janek's line was the best pick-up line for the situation.  Even melted the snow queen.  That's all it was, IMHO.

But yeah I can see where you might draw that conclusion, based on Weyland's reliance on David.

But the kicker would be if the ***** could go outside without a helmet.  Since she was in full freak-out mode, getting jocked up to abandon ship once Janek made it clear what he was about to do, I would say she was human, much too human at that.   

 

BigDave

DeaconMember10325 XPAug-10-2016 8:29 AM

Indeed if she was a Robot, and she knew only Shaw was on the surface then she would not worry about suiting up when going to the EEV Pod.... if Shaw came across her with no Helmet... well what can she do.. she wont be able to out run Vickers and so its a Win/win for her..

So that scene indeed proves she was not a Robot

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Centauri

PraetorianMember2267 XPAug-10-2016 9:27 AM

Well out of kicks in this Vickers theory, I must add that even "David" had to dress in a suit to make the rest of the crew feel more comfortable, and if Vickers was a replicant...she wouldn't know it...and would assume she needed one like the rest of the crew...   this is fun speculation so no one chew my head off lol  :)

 

 

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 "Must be something we haven't seen yet.."__Bishop

//www.alien-covenant.com/series/

            

Centauri

PraetorianMember2267 XPAug-10-2016 1:46 PM

Ive red all comments and love everyones take on this subject. thank you to everyone on scified who joined in and gave their compelling view, theories and thoughts!

:D

 

 

****

 "Must be something we haven't seen yet.."__Bishop

//www.alien-covenant.com/series/

            

S.M

XenomorphMember1234 XPAug-10-2016 2:48 PM

"Indeed if she was a Robot, and she knew only Shaw was on the surface then she would not worry about suiting up when going to the EEV Pod.... "

Quite.

rumsmuggler

OvomorphMember62 XPAug-10-2016 5:55 PM

Interesting topic. I remember from the Promethues blu ray, one of the bonus feature stuff had a journal entry or something of the sort from Weyland and he mentioned Tyrell and his use of biological creations. Weyland mentioned something about androids being better in the long run than his replicants. Don't know if it is just an easter egg, or it Ridley Scott is slyly  making Blade Runner and Alien take place in the same universe.

 

As for Vickers, if she was a robot, Janek didn't notice or didn't care.

BigDave

DeaconMember10325 XPAug-11-2016 5:45 AM

It was kind of a Easter Egg.... a tease and it should not be taken as Canon unless future movies try to make more of a connection...

Ridley however did say that both Franchises could be within the same universe... this does not mean they are...

I would not rule out however other little easter Eggs... such as Blade Runner 2 i would not be surprised if Weyland Company is mentioned or we see the Logo on something in that movie...

But it could be only a easter egg nod  like how JJ Abrahams has used the Slusho from Cloverfield in a number of his projects including Star Trek

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

rumsmuggler

OvomorphMember62 XPAug-11-2016 12:01 PM

That makes sense, that's why I take it as a grain of salt until I see something concrete on film, and not in the bonus features.

Diz

FacehuggerMember127 XPAug-12-2016 5:37 AM

Between the fact that an android could of kicked the flight crew's asses and insisted on just flying away (good one SM), and her panicked retreat into the escape pod, I'd have to say she was just a nasty example of homo sapiens.

Yeah RS, I take a whole friggin salt shaker at these hints and allegations from these movie-makers, because so much of it is BS.  While I love the art, the artist are sometimes a shifty bunch.

Lone

PraetorianMember2674 XPAug-23-2016 9:41 AM

On the Prometheus Blu-Ray Director Commentary during the scene where Vickers confronts David after his visor-link with Weyland, Ridley says-

I like the fact that they are both blonde, so I began to think, are these kind of clone brothers and sisters. Do you ever think that she might be a robot? That’s part of the intention, well why don’t we suggest she might be a robot. So when Janek amusingly says to her are you a robot? She goes what? ...It’s kind of amusing.

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

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