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How to get well informed?

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mitoand9

MemberOvomorphMar-10-2015 2:32 PM

Hey everyone,

I'd like to have some reliable sources to get well informed on the full franchise. Many discussions are just based on fans' opinions, but I'd like to have some objective material about the whole aliens franchise and prometheus: just any piece of info on all the story secrets and doubts.

 

Thx a lot

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Necronom 4

MemberNeomorphMar-10-2015 5:01 PM

First, i'd suggest watching the ALIEN directors cut, then watch the ALIEN documentary:

The Beast Within

But, then again, you could always just watch this:

Alien Visions

WARNING! Do not watch the following video if you are easily disturbed!

H R Giger - Art in motion. Is all you need to truly know about the Alien universe!

 

 

 

The poster was good though!

 

Batchpool

MemberFacehuggerMar-10-2015 6:00 PM

It is worth watching Dark Star, and then possibly reading the Star Beast script for a bit of extra info on Dan o'Bannon.

Star Beast/Alien script

The making of Alien 1-4 on Quadrilogy is a good source of Alien background.

Svanya

AdminPraetorianMar-10-2015 7:04 PM

Since you guys have already mentioned the Star Beast script and the Weyland-Yutani Archies. I'll add in that you should watch The Furious Gods, Prometheus documentary. It's not easy to find online, but it's worth it. It is on the Blu-Ray. :)

oduodu

MemberXenomorphMar-11-2015 12:39 AM

you can trust the answers that was given !!

all i can perhaps add is for prometheus:

 

weyland industries website

 

check out the corporate timeline and electronics

 

then check this viral video:

 viral video to watch

just one other thing :

 

make sure you know both the directors cut of alien and the theatrical cut. listen to necronom 4.

Necronom 4

MemberNeomorphMar-11-2015 3:41 PM

Oh yeah, like Svanya said, if you want to try to understand Prometheus then first watch the film then watch 'The Furious Gods' documentary. But bare in mind that if you still don't fully understand it after watching both, you are not alone!

The poster was good though!

 

BigDave

MemberDeaconMar-12-2015 9:36 AM

LOL...

Yeah if you take in The Furious Gods, it kind of helps, but its one of those tools to then use with the Drafts, both Spaights and Lindeloffs and even if you read the First Alien Draft and Star Beast drafts, then look at every clue, including concept works..

You then get to be able to paint a picture.... but then that picture may be slightly different depending on to each persons interpretations of those clues...

Besides we have yet to see where they are going, as Paradise they could be laying down a Plot that would make us change our mind about how we see Prometheus and Alien, and they could be changing direction to what the clues and information and ideas that was presented when they was working on Prometheus.

I am sure that Paradise would be the movie that sets in Stone which path they are going on and how we are intended to make of all the clues.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

oduodu

MemberXenomorphMar-14-2015 1:29 AM

I fear that the alien universe has been so dissected and studied that you basically have nothing left to add. When Prometheus came out it allowed for analysis of a new set of factors that was introduced into the alien franchise.

As such the only way to approach Prometheus was from the same preamble as ridley there was no where else to go but before alien i.e. a prequel because there was no where left to go after resurrection. Its now approaching 3 years after Prometheus was released and fox has decided to make a new alien movie. By and large because I believe they see what Prometheus has shown: that you have to add something new while retaining some of the root ideas of alien and doing that is basically imposable except if you go for story arcs yet not investigated: weyland yutani and origins of the xeno.

So where will they go with alien 5 ? Who will watch a movie only about hix Ellen noot ?? If they introduce something new what will it be and will it detract (as in modify change ) from the the original story like Prometheus did ??

That's why I am sticking to Prometheus and its sequel(s) hoping that the 3rd takes us back to the original and show us some of that universe where everything started.

If p2 justifies Prometheus and (if) alien 5 flops we might see ridley justified for adding something new even if it was not exactly what we wanted.

I hope for sj and engineers one day as separate entities.........

I hope alien 5 is everything we want but until then I hope for ridleyverse p1 p2 p3 alien dc.

 

as such i like to make p1 as "understpood" as possable - if that isnt really posable to make it as "known" as possible. just like in allien with the eggs chamber and sj mystery prometheus will keep people coming back.

 

how will alien 5 do this or are we just going to give fans the hix noot ellen show so that they can fans the ending they wanted ??

i am an alien fanboy - not an aliens fanboy. as FAR AS I AM CONCERNED nothing exists after alien - that was ripley's dream in my opinion. it should never have been about her.

 

thats when everything went haywire.

oduodu

MemberXenomorphMar-14-2015 1:48 AM

and yes they can go the engineer route.  pesonally dont care if they show xeno's at all but it has already been confirmed that we wiil see a new one in the 3rd act.

personally hope for engineers and only engineers all the way....

 BUT

will we see it ??

 

BigDave

MemberDeaconMar-15-2015 3:01 PM

Yes Oduodu...

There really was the case of where to go thats new after Alien franchise and why Ridley wanted something different... This Alien 5 i am sure Fox liked some of the ideas it had, ones that Komkamp had, but i dont think we should have gone the route of bringing Ripley back.

What i liked about his work was the ideas as far as experiments in Xeno DNA to create new types of Xeno, and also the Xeno-esque Bio-Mech Suit that Ripley had on, that was awsome but they should gone with those ideas, but left Ripley etc out of it.

As far as Prometheus it also gave us some interesting ideas as far as Organisms related to the Xeno, and i think we could have explored them more and thus would give us clues to the Xeno without having to show us the traditional Xenos.

Hopefully we get some idea and clues as to the Xeno Orgins, not a full spoon fed one, or that shows us Xenos, but more clues that are less vague than Prometheus.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

oduodu

MemberXenomorphAug-09-2015 11:40 AM

This thread by shambs

http://www.prometheus2-movie.com/community/forums/topic/13689

BigDave

MemberDeaconAug-09-2015 5:21 PM

Cheers oduodu seen it and seen similar before and yes interesting Parallels, commented on the Topic.. and will in more detail some other time.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

xeno_alpha_07

MemberFacehuggerAug-23-2015 12:19 PM

Movie magazines and books are also a very good sourse!

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