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Prometheus sequel to be about David finding a new host body.

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DenzelTH

OvomorphMember3 XPJan-20-2015 11:36 AM

Earlier I saw new information or supposedly new information of the prometheus sequel.

that the film will prodimently be about davids search for a new host body, much like a facehugger lol.

With all the engineers technology maybe on their planet or even a higher divine race, this could be interesting to see Davids plans for Earth or indeed life. He'd simply plug himself in and take over. 

 

 

\\\" I Want To Go Where They Come From\\\"
20 Responses to Prometheus sequel to be about David finding a new host body.

Lone

PraetorianMember2674 XPJan-20-2015 12:04 PM

It doesn't amount to much, but any snippet of info is welcome! :)

According to Master Herald (which I have never heard of!) and posted today~

Fans have speculated that Alien has actually come AFTER the Prometheus movie, but Scott said that Prometheus 2 is going to bring things to a whole other level. Even though the release date and the movie plot have not been confirmed, that does not stop fans from speculating how the story will go. Elizabeth will be on the hunt for answers as to why the Engineers want to end all of humanity and “David” is going to be on the hunt for a new host body.

Prometheus 2 is born out of necessity according to Scott, just based on how the last movie ended. The story cannot end with being blasted into space with the head of another character, according to Scott. There are a few story lines there that need to be tied up and that is hopefully where Prometheus 2 will come into play. Scott said that making the first one was very fun and that the second should follow the same path. He said that there are at least 15 drafts of the script circulating right now and with the loose ends that need to be tied up, the movie should be a hit.

Read the whole article here: Prometheus 2 Will Focus On Fassbender’s Head Needing A Body!

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

GustavoHR

OvomorphMember0 XPJan-20-2015 3:24 PM

that the film will prodimently be about davids search for a new host body, much like a facehugger lol.

 

I actually find that premise fascinating.

sp_jockey

OvomorphMember23 XPJan-20-2015 7:45 PM

This information has already been discussed on previous threads from interviews with Scott when he was promoting Exodus. 

The part about fans speculating that Alien coming after the Prometheus movie is not speculating at all. It's pretty clear without the need for any guessing. 

And David getting his head back in P2 is something I'm really looking forward to. But I don't think it will be the main focus of the plot line. He needs to get his head back so that he can futher act as an antagonist to Shaw and her quest for answers. 

DenzelTH

OvomorphMember3 XPJan-21-2015 6:16 AM

Yeah whatever the story they bring to p2 it's gonna be original and unique, just hopefully we could see stuff explained and David tapping into their technology could do that. 

And although David is always put as a bad guy ( i have more hate for holloway that David lol) that could just be the way Weyland wanted him to be. And now he's free With no one to answer to, we could even see a nice android lol noo

 

another rumour I saw was there was going to be more David's in p2 , which makes sense to send androids instead of humans to the corners of deep space. And if we did see more David's , would they act like the original, or has he had some special programming?? 

 

Maybe be this is what the Engineers predicted. Soulless  life  is an abomination, that they did not want to see or indeed come into contact with.

\\\" I Want To Go Where They Come From\\\"

BSS1973

OvomorphMember0 XPJan-21-2015 1:18 PM

I was hoping David would have his head repaired in the first 5- 10 minutes, because the last thing they need to do is bloat the film with pointless crap like David getting his head back. I also hope it will be a movie that can stand on its own, unlike Prometheus. Prometheus doesn't have an ending, it just stops and says "We're done now, if you want to know how it ends, wait several years and have you wallet ready"

GustavoHR

OvomorphMember0 XPJan-21-2015 1:29 PM

You don't know whether David getting his head back on is "crap" or not. The search for a new host/body could definetely tap into classic Alien proceedings and provide plenty of suspense and thrills. I'm annoyed by such simplistic rejections of a basic premise by people already willing to hate a film that hasn't even begun shooting yet.

And all this criticism about Prometheus not standing on its own is moot because it was designed to lead to more movies. Scott never pretended it wasn't.

BigDave

DeaconMember10324 XPJan-22-2015 7:06 AM

There has been many many different rumours, as to which ones are true or accurate we cant be sure....

 

What we do know for sure is these few FACTS.....

 

1) The movie will at the very least follow Shaw and David, and it will lead to a interesting concept because while Shaw wants David to take her to Paradise to get her answers and find out where the Engineers came from and why did they create us and then want us destroyed.

 

David may have his own Agenda and we have to assume that Shaw can not freely walk around the Engineers Ship for the duration of the journey. And it would make sense that she is in Cryo Sleep which means David is flying the Ship and well once Shaw is in Cryo Sleep basically David could go where ever he wants.

 

But i think Paradise would be where they attempt to go.

 

2) The ship had already left LV 223 at the end of Prometheus, and so we have to wonder can David Fly the Ship with just his head? Ridley said that David needs Shaw and without her he cant do nothing with just his head, and without Shaw reattaching Davids Head, he cant take Shaw where she wants to go.

 

Ridley went further to say that David can be very persuasive and yet he has some kind of Agenda and should not be trusted, but i guess what other choice does Shaw have.

 

So i would assume that Shaw has attached Davids Head even if rather crudely by the end of the first movie... Will we see the attaching of the Head and Shaw being put into Cryo Stasis?

 

Who knows.

 

3) They can not do a movie of a headless David, or even a movie of David and Shaw stranded on a Ship flying through Space.

They would have to find Paradise or some other place and it would have to contain some Inteligent beings to interact with. (i mean they cant just Cast Fassbender and Rappace and thats it).

 

4) Ridley said they did not want to meet God in the first movie, and that the Godlike beings Shaw finds are not Gods, and they certainly are not very nice. This would suggest the Engineers are merely servant race to some other being or race or something else.

 

5) David is bringing Hell with him, which must be the ship they had taken is carrying some Cargo, most likely Urns and would the Goo in them be the same as in the Temple on LV 223 they visited, or maybe different if the Juggernaught came from another Temple complex?

 

6) Ridley pondered what would happen if the Goo was to effect God, or a Machine... this could tell us that David would unleash this stuff on the beings they find on Paradise... the Machine element does he mean that David would infect himself? Or maybe the God is a Machine we just cant be certain.

 

7) Ridley wants to steer away from the Gods, and so maybe that means he wishes to distance these Engineers and their creators being Gods, and distance the movie from the links to Ancient Mankind and Religions.

 

And so a more simple and sinister Agenda could be shown...

 

8) Ridley wants to not do the Dragons, by that he must mean how the Alien had evolved and appeared in every movie after Alien.

 

9) But he said there would be a new Monster, and in another interview he said that what they are aiming to do is distance the movie from Alien Franchise and create something new and fresh.

 

He later said the new Monster would be a fresh and modern take on the Original Alien, however the Alien is pretty much very similar to those that appeared after and if he felt the Deacon was too Alieny then how can anything related to the Alien in Alien be new and fresh and not Alieny.

 

10) Ridley has said that he feels Prometheus has enough clues to link to Alien, and that whatever happens on Paradise would be something new and different and more about the Engineers and their Hierarchy and Agenda. But will distance itself from Alien, and maybe also the events of Prometheus.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

DeaconMember10324 XPJan-22-2015 7:28 AM

Here are some of the other rumours that have been floating around as far as being somewhat official, i.e not some fabrication maybe by fans.. but again these could be just as fabricated anyway.

 

1) More than one David... this makes sense as their is indeed in the Prometheus/Alien Universe more than one David. How would this work however?  Flash Back to show Davids early existence, Flash Back or alternative plot returning to Earth or Weyland Company Outpost.   Could these Davids be sent to LV 223 or LV 426,  but then doing so would mean they have to cover two plots with lots to cover in one movie..

2) Guy Pearce will be cast, again this can only work really as a Flash Back Scene.

3)Morse will be in the movie, how would this work? the actor Danny Webb has aged considerably since Alien 3,  the only way this could work (and not the he is a Android because Alien 3 is set a while after Prometheus) is that it would most likely have to be a older Morse if using Danny Webb, but how as far as relevant to the timeline of Prometheus?

Unless they cast a Actor to be a relative to Morse, or somehow their is a Android Morse, or finally we see Morse (Danny Webb) in a scene set after the events of Alien 3, and there is no reason that it could take Shaw and David a very very long time to get to Paradise, there is not reason by the time they get to Paradise, the time that has gone past it is now past the year 2200.

Those are some of the more realistic rumours we have heard...

We then have speculation by fans, which well who knows if any is truthful...  I heard of one person that they talked to someone in the summer who had to do CONCEPT WORK on Prometheus Paradise, and the drawings they had to do was very inspired by the Artwork in HR Gigers Necronomicon book, and went further to say that the Concept work was very Matrix look to it, as far as Cryo Chambers that contained Baby Humanoid looking work

And that there was a facility that was connected and controlled by a being that was in essence connected to a Giant Bio Mechanical/Mechanical Machine and in essence GOD.

 As far as any thruth to that, well it could be just made up, as it does sound very inspired by Gigers Work, and well Ridley has said there would be a God but not a God in the traditional Sense, and their are some clues that our Engineers could be clones.

So could this be plausible? sounds interesting but i just accepted it as pure Fanmade Idea and not true at all..

There are many drafts done, and by now Ridley and Co must have some concept work ideas even if its just Ridley Sketches based on parts of the drafts that are a common theme in all of them.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

DeaconMember10324 XPJan-22-2015 7:36 AM

FINALLY.....

Regarding the OT David and his search for a Host... we would have to assume Davids head is connected if not rather crudely, and so yes maybe a new body would be more benefit.. but where is he going to get this body, how is he going to find Android parts?

I doubt this would lead to him putting his brain into another David Model

And how does David Transfer his conscience into a Organic Host?

Maybe David does not want a new body purely to operate, i,e the job Shaw does in reattaching the head is not upto the task, long term.

 

Maybe there is another reason for the search for a Host Body, and that is that David does not have a soul, he is a machine... his Father Peter Weyland wanted to find these Engineers these Gods to be made Immortal or at very least grant him extra life. Maybe a new youthful body.

Could David want the same, could David want to like Pinocchio, want to become a real Human, well become more Human and Flesh?

Could David hope these Godlike beings he hopes to now find could give him that?

A interesting twist that would be and especially if they refuse and David in retaliation unleashes the Goo onto them, or somehow uses it in a way to Change David into something new and sinister.

And then bring Hell to the Gods...

 

 

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

djamelameziane

FacehuggerMember143 XPJan-23-2015 5:26 AM

And then the engineers will make him that new body and he will be a real boy just like the others - pinocchio 2!

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

Membrane

FacehuggerMember159 XPJan-23-2015 6:39 AM

Hmmm, the Engineers give David a new body along with some modifications, one of which now requires him to need oxygen for example (and thus a helmet during space travel).  Is David ultimately our Space Jockey seen in 'Alien' on LV-426?  :-)

DenzelTH

OvomorphMember3 XPJan-24-2015 8:23 AM

The engineers could even see David's potential  for  the distribution of the goo, knowing that him being a robot he could not be infected. But in turn he has own agenda with the cargo. 

 

 

\\\" I Want To Go Where They Come From\\\"

DenzelTH

OvomorphMember3 XPJan-24-2015 8:27 AM

A way we could see the juggernaut from Alien is that David re routes shaws journey to go to that planet or moon w/e, to get the eggs and bring em back home. 

And then we could see maybe a different type of alien that came out of the space jockey. But I don't think the journey will end there. Or either of the two will ever make it back to earth, of they do it'll be like some planet of the apes ****.

\\\" I Want To Go Where They Come From\\\"

brego

OvomorphMember81 XPJan-25-2015 4:17 AM

hmmm. I suspect well see a flash back to what really happened on LV423 after the outbreak, and what caused it leading to the escape of another Engineer who is already infected and crash lands on LV426, possibly on top of a subterarium engineer outpost (which we saw in Alien). The reconstruction of David on the 2nd Juggenaut with Shaw's help and an exploration upon them reaching Paridise, which is nothing we have seen before. David and Shaw will find that the engineers are simply cloned meat bags used by the God's (Possibly the original Engineers who use clones as slaves) to spread life throughout the Galaxy. I feel an Engineer rebellion coming on perhaps helped by the enslaved, cloned Engineers, helped by Shaw and David....

Perhaps the new Alien creature Riddley is talking about is a native species from another planet which they have refined as the Xeno we all know and love. Natural and harmless on their own planet but because of it's breeding habbits lethal on other Worlds.....

BSS1973

OvomorphMember0 XPJan-25-2015 8:54 PM

GustavoHR, I'm more than a little annoyed by your snap judgements, I am not in need of your reinterperation of what I said. You may quote me, but if you make another attempt to distort, rearrange, interperet or fill in the blanks of what I've said, you will find yourself corrected. Is that clear enough? 

BigDave

DeaconMember10324 XPJan-26-2015 8:58 AM

I cant see David being the Space Jockey that would have to involve time travel because as far as the Prometheus timeline goes the Derelict Signal was already on LV 426 before Prometheus had left to go to LV 223.

But Viral sites and Ridleys comments aside, on screen the franchise does not give a date from when the Derelict had been there, only some comments it had been there a long time but because Dallas etc said that does not mean it actually had been there for a very long time.

But we have to go with the idea that yes the Derelict had been there for thousands of years and that there is some connection with the Derelict and its Cargo and the LV 223 outpost also as far as time frame for when they was conducting these experiement and  had seen them fail or back fire upon them.

Also for David to be the Space Jockey on his way to what? Earth or to LV 223, why would he set off a SOS to Warn Space Jockeys/Engineers.

I dont think i would like to see the Engineers give David a body at all, i would like to see him be able to convince them not to destroy him and Shaw and maybe persaude them to use Shaw for some evil purpose and then when the Engineers etc let their giard down then David unleashes Hell on them.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

DeaconMember10324 XPJan-26-2015 9:08 AM

"The engineers could even see David's potential  for  the distribution of the goo"

Well we did see that David was not infected with the Goo, however the comics show that a Android can be effected, but while Dark Horse discused stuff with Ridley and Fox to be green lighted as yes this could apply to the universe, i dont think we can take the commics as Cannon because well they all lead to a Aliens vs Predator vs Engineer finale....  And also LV 223 is a planet that has life and a jungle on it even at the time of 2200 so some 20 years after Alien which would beg the question why does Weyland persue Ripley in Alien 3 for the Organism and why go to LV 426 if LV 223 contains life created from the events of Prometheus..

So as far as Cannon i doubt the comics are, and so if a Android could be infected in the Commics maybe that does not mean they can in the movie...

But here are some interesting comments.... i think it was Spaights or Lindeloff who teased that David was connected to the Xeno Orgins... again how that can be because well the Derelict had been on LV 426 for thousands of years.

But Ridley pondered what would happen if the Goo is used on God, or a Machine?  Could Ridley be hinting that David can be infected?

As far as the Engineers using David, well i think they may see him as a abomination, but i think he could potentially persuade them that he can be of use to their Agenda.

But as far as anything becomming of that, then unless Ridley goes the route that David is behind the Derelict which i doubt, i cant see how anything comes of this unless it is some event between Alien 3 and Alien Resurection or after.. or if they are going to reboot the franchise after Alien or Aliens which i doubt.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

DeaconMember10324 XPJan-26-2015 9:12 AM

"A way we could see the juggernaut from Alien is that David re routes shaws journey to go to that planet or moon"

There is potential for this to happen, you see as Ridley said once Davids Head goes back on well Shaw is basically stuck to what ever whim he wishes, and if we assume Shaw has to be put into Cyro Sleep for the Journey... well David could tuck Shaw in, wish her good night then as soon as Shaw is off to sleep, does David have to go to Paradise?

Nope he could go to Earth, he could go to Paradise or he could even pop to LV 426 to find out about the Signal that he would be aware of.

I am not so sure they would go that route, i think they dont want to cover LV 426 and the Space Jockey and likewise i am not sure they would be giving much more clues as to the LV 223 outbreak either.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

DeaconMember10324 XPJan-28-2015 12:25 PM

@brego


Yes i feel the Engineers was Clones to some effect, the clues are there and Ridley has cut the movie in a way to basically down grade the independance the Engineers was portrayed as having...   Could they had been going the route to connect some religious connections and ancient Myth.... i.e our Engineers are Angels/Iggi/Olympians created in the image of a higher race of Gods....  i do think the hints was that way, but now they are maybe just going the route of them being just cloned meat bags...

 

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

brego

OvomorphMember81 XPFeb-28-2015 3:44 AM

Yes Big Dave. I feel a lot of Questions will become obvious one P2 comes out and will work in conjunction with A5. I think there is a very good reason that Ridley removed the Elder scene from the prologue. I think whoever was piloting the saucer shaped ship, which makes a quite hasty getaway, whilst the lone Engineer does his ritual could be piloted by the creators of these clone life creating beings as we know as Engineers. I'm still betting that the Engineer outpost on LV223 some 2000 years ago has something to do with an uprising or the start of one. These clones were punished by perhaps a diliberate release or an accidental error in retaliation against whoever created the clones. I still think that the Space Jockey on LV426 was a survivor of these goings on and crash landed on an outpost on the planet. Hopefully its his or hers vessil we have seen in the artwork for A5. We may return to LV426 and find the connection which links into the older Prometheus line.

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