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Where was Fifield after his mutation?

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Anunnaki50

MemberOvomorphDec-12-2013 9:35 PM

Hey does anyone know where Fifield could have gone after he mutated from the goo? Like did he run off somwhere like an animal thats dying but changed instead? After Janek,  the Body gurard ,Chance, Shaw, Ford, and Holloway went looking for the two guys after they had left that horrible message on audio/video. Milbourne was there, dead when they found him but where did the pot-head Fifield go?

The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno

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cuponator3000

MemberChestbursterDec-12-2013 10:54 PM

Are you sure he wasn't laying there? I thought he was and they just didn't have time to go check him out with Holloway needing attention and the hammerpede scaring them

Not a map, an invitation

oduodu

MemberXenomorphDec-12-2013 11:12 PM

He went somewhere. But 
Where ?? Looking for a
Warm moist place ?? Where
There is a lot of humidity and
Perhaps nitrogen ?? Top 
Of the pyrimid ??

Anunnaki50

MemberOvomorphDec-13-2013 2:53 AM

I have even slowed down the video but his body isnt there at all. He couldn't have just layed there when the crew arrived....so he must have ran off somewhere else, but where?

The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno

Lone

MemberPraetorianDec-13-2013 4:06 AM

My guess would be he got LOST! Haha

He could have been lying behind the Big Head unnoticed by the crew and transforming?

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Visionary Alpha

MemberOvomorphDec-13-2013 4:13 AM
That's pretty funny, Lone. I think we have to assume that Fifield got up and started off in search of something to kill. It's funny he was gone when the crew came by, and funnier still that he would know where the Prometheus was and where to just sit like he did on the ground in front of its door. If he was turned into this rampaging zombie, with no free will, how could his memory work? Did he pick up a trail made by the crew? I don't think so. They drove from the pyramid to their ship. Myself, considering all of these points, I think he was being controlled by someone.

BigDave

MemberDeaconDec-13-2013 10:27 AM

Well thw answer is easy............... he got lost again lol...

 

As far as how he found Prometheus and if that meant he had some memory but then if so why did he go Postal....

 

Well if thats the case, remember he was not a very stable minded person anyway, all he was interested in was making money and no soon as they found dead Engineers he wanted out and back to the ship.

 

If he did keep some of his memory after mutation we can only assume he would be very very peed off that its the fault of this mission and its crew that they brought Fifield to a place that had now ruined his life as he becomes a Zombie Mutant and he would want to take his anger out on those who brought him there... and anyone who gets in his way in the process...

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djamelameziane

MemberFacehuggerDec-13-2013 12:21 PM

Its mind control I tells u. Its the only wsy out for prometheus now - this god like being needs the prometheus crew to free it and its were the goo is from...thats why they were all not making any sense! Its controlling them so that it can eventually free itself! 

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

Visionary Alpha

MemberOvomorphDec-13-2013 5:22 PM
It does make a certain amount of sense. I don't think we can say Fifield would have killed everyone because of what happened to him. I think we have to look at Prometheus as a movie that leaves out much more than it says. Maybe there was a lot more going on I'd say that's a given. The black goo itself has unclear properties. When it was ingested by the engineer in the beginning, and maybe also by Charlie later, it contains little creatures. It wasn't the goo itself, which was on the floor in the ampule room, which caused the disintegration. Contact with the black goo, just as a liquid, made the little worms into the alien snakes. That is quite a transformation. Maybe they ingested it, too, for that to happen to them. Fifield, however, I think only got the liquid on his face. Did it have only a partial effect on him? At any rate, if he was incapacitated at first, then able to move and be so strong and flexible, it seemed that he was taking on another mind entirely. I don't think he was "in there", certainly not in control. I would guess he took on some receptive characteristics, for either others of his own kind or something that just would always be served by the things the black goo created. The mind broke down, and it was replaced by a creature like an insect following the a queen of a hive. Shocking though it might be, I think a xenomorph "god" is behind it. They're telepathic, I think, and this supreme being would have unlimited power.

shambs

MemberOvomorphDec-15-2013 3:52 PM

Probably he was trying to get back to the Ship, walking down the corridors, suffering from pain, a little disoriented, but at the same time he was losing his humanity by this virus that was controlling his body.

shambs

MemberOvomorphDec-15-2013 4:28 PM

Although, Fifield attack inside the pyramid would have been more creepy, IMHO.

Visionary Alpha

MemberOvomorphDec-15-2013 7:56 PM
The writers could easily have done that, right? I think it must have served some purpose for Fifield to come to the ship. One other thing, when he reached it, he just sat outside? Why wouldn't he try to break it? He attacked at that moment when he discovered Charlie's remains outside...

shambs

MemberOvomorphDec-15-2013 8:23 PM

Yes, they had many plans for Fifield, plans which unfortunately never saw the light of the day.

Visionary Alpha

MemberOvomorphDec-15-2013 8:24 PM
I think Fifield picked up a wish to protect other life forms with his new DNA. The story probably didn't actually say this, though. They probably made it simple that he turned into a berserker who would attack everyone it found. Based on the facts we see in the movie, this doesn't make a lot of sense. In that scenario, I wouldn't think Fifield would go to the ship at all, let-alone wait outside.

shambs

MemberOvomorphDec-15-2013 8:27 PM

@Visionary Alpha, What is that of "when he discovered Charlie ' s remains oustside"? I`m curious.

shambs

MemberOvomorphDec-15-2013 8:36 PM

So, he was trying to protect other life forms? like What? Shaw's Baby?

Visionary Alpha

MemberOvomorphDec-15-2013 8:55 PM
I'm just guessing that Charlie's remains were outside the ship, but given how Vickers was talking I don't think anyone would have even buried them outside. Fifield would have seen the remains all burned, and even if he wasn't being controlled consciously, he may have sensed the death of the organism in the black goo that was inside Charlie. I think his interest in coming to the ship in the first place was to protect Shaw's baby, and Charlie's alien DNA. As to who may have been controlling Fifield, someone once posted here something about seeing a tall humanoid in the reflection off of a metallic wall or glass in the infirmary where Shaw was being examined by David. I can't say what it was, but it's like they were being watched. Many of the ancient cultures believed in things like astral projection, and the idea that the last engineer was actually able to move about while asleep is very interesting. When Shaw got her abortion was exactly when Fifield attacked, so I think it would have to be more than a coincidence. So, when Fifield learned they burned Charlie, he would have become really hostile at that point. He may even have started out for the ship when Charlie was burned, but in that case I think he would have tried to break in.

Voxstellarum

MemberOvomorphDec-17-2013 10:41 AM

In spaights script he was just a shambling horror wandering the halls. He would have had to have had some intelligence to get out of the tombs and in front of the ship.

djamelameziane

MemberFacehuggerDec-17-2013 10:53 AM

Lol yer that is funny if you think about it he got lost before even with a 3d map a ship mate and communication to everyone yet after having his face melted and black goo mess his body up hes up and straight off to the ship lol...

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

Tru3 Chaos

MemberOvomorphDec-20-2013 5:23 AM

There some good points. I don't think this part was planned out very well except to perhaps to put some action into the film. The way I thought of it was at this stage, Fifield was in all purposes dead or at least brain dead, except for certain flight or fight stimulations in his mind that caused him to find the ship and then fight the crew. These motivations were probably his last before the actually Fifield lost himself to the infection of the goo. In all liklihood Fifield was following for noises and finally found the ship.

BigDave

MemberDeaconDec-20-2013 7:14 AM

Yes thats as i have said before a lot of these so called stupid moments are their purely to drive the Plot forward....

Had Fifield and Milburn not got lost then they would have made it to the ship in one peice, we would not have been shown what the Goo did to the Worms, well could but never seen how deadly these Hammpedes could be and we would not had seen Fifield Mutate and thus be left with lots of crew members alive.

 

They was just Plot Devices, and we see countless horror movies and Sci Fi like Alien ones etc where we see some peoples actions as being really silly in what they do that leads to their death.  The same goes for Monster movies, or even Killer Shark movies, its always some people who do something really silly that in real life you would say... sod that you would never be that stupid and they deserved to die.

Well for these movies they act silly, because its a way for them to be canon foder to show the deadly nature of the Aliens, Wolf Man, Shark, Zombie etc etc.

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Anunnaki50

MemberOvomorphDec-24-2013 12:57 AM

Yep true that..... I figured as much that there really is no answer to some of those questionable behaviors.

The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno

Visionary Alpha

MemberOvomorphDec-24-2013 11:12 PM
I think we should demand from any sci-fi not actually billed as a comedy, much more seriousness, though. One of Prometheus' big strengths is its visuals, and that draws you in to care more about what is going on. To learn that characters will do crazy stupid things just to be cannon fodder, or "red shirts", puts the movie back in the sea of average.

HiveMinded

MemberOvomorphJan-17-2014 4:33 AM

I wouldn't say that there aren't answers to be found, but basically I agree the Millburn and Fifield getting lost thing was just a plot device to show how the goo works.

The goo itself is important, even though Fifield and Millburn getting lost is kinda dumb.

I kinda think Fifield and Millburn were easily manipulated..In the Spaight's script David actually says something like "you're all so stupid!" after trying to attack Shaw, "Stupid and slow" (he chases her). This is right after David reveals to Watts that he read their psych profiles.

Basically the way I rationalize Fifield and Millburn getting lost is that Weyland actually set out to hire slightly below average intelligence scientists, peole who were easily manipulated, people who would jump at the chance like Holloway, those who were in it for the money, Ford who was almost on Weyland's side, true believers, and Holloway who was childlike and eager to play with his toys etc. So he could deceive them. Or allow them to get lost themselces. Those of them Vickers hired personally, like Janek, had more survival instincts in them. At least the merc was trying to survive by keeping his gun, "see how far that gets you". Shaw might be smarter than the rest, because in the Spaight's script David mentions her IQ is actually much higher than Holloway, and Holloway was arrogant (but this was when his character was a lot diff). Watts/Shaw might have more instinct/intelligence "in her" than the rest of the crew.  Weyland was superstitious, he needed a true believer on board he could manipulate with the bigger questions. Although Shaw has her own beliefs and motives, she may be smarter than the rest, and Weyland wanted her on board even though his true agenda was all about getting immortality for himself.

Necronom 4

MemberNeomorphJan-17-2014 6:17 AM

I would have loved to have seen more of the Fifield monster and what he would have evolved into! They could have increased the running time of the film by 10 minutes and had the Fifield monster enter the ship by climbing up the landing gear.

 

The poster was good though!

 

Membrane

MemberFacehuggerJan-17-2014 8:26 AM

Fifield ran off and later found his way to the ship because...

1) plot device

2) he retains his memory but loses control of his amygdala in the limbic system and kills those who he sees put him in this situation (like BigDave stated earlier)

I think it's a stretch for the audience to consider #2, so I would say plot device.  That being said, I'm okay with it. :-)

BigDave

MemberDeaconJan-17-2014 10:26 AM

@Necronom 4

Yeah would have been nice to had seen more of Fifield, i think it was one bad bit of the script as Fifield i felt had killed to many of the crew...

Also orginally that was not the case in Spaights draft and Fifield mutated to something more Xeno than the Toxic Avenger look....

I undertand Ridley is no fan of CGI and felt the CGI scene did not look so good and that the actor  Sean Harris did a good job with the action scene...

But i think they could have done a CGI overlay over Harris to give us more of a Xeno esque look... but ultimately Ridley and Fox decided to tone down even more Xeno elements in the movie..

Above is the Fifield concept i liked the most, and the closest they got to production on similar was this image below.

 

This one i really liked, and instead they could have made a Mask that Harris wore under the Helmet and then used CGI to tidy up the shot just as they did with the Engineers to add the odd finish touches via CGI

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Necronom 4

MemberNeomorphJan-17-2014 12:19 PM

Bigdave; That first image is brilliant! I would have loved to have seen Fifield evolve into that as the second stage and yes, Ridley's never liked CGI, he prefers to make everything by hand. However, CGI these days (if used properly,) can produce amazing results! I've always HATED the use of CGI until very recently.

The poster was good though!

 

djamelameziane

MemberFacehuggerJan-17-2014 12:53 PM

Yer cgi has now got to a level were most situations it is worth it like even though the stage sets were great they could of benefited from cgi backgrounds can be made on a much grander level and I hope they use cgi for part 2s backgrounds becuase I am imagining grand things for the  home planet. Organic stuff is harder but some human faces are almost perfect but I understand they are hard to do. 

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

BigDave

MemberDeaconJan-19-2014 6:50 PM

Well here is where i did not understand why Ridley said that...

As the Deacon and Engineer did get a kind of photo shop treatment via CGI, you see the actual props and costumes lacked the polish the finish movie had.

And the Sacreficial Engineer was CGI when he was being broken down.... and looked great.

I think the failings was simply time restraints and budget, you see the Fifield CGI did not look as solid a job as the other CGI work in the movie, they simply must have done CGI Fifield late on and it never looked quite as good as they hopped for. Sometimes a movie has problems when the budget and time restraints kick in.

The Thing is a pure example of this, the idea was to use Props and CGI over them to make them more polished and some scenes they did this, others they then due to time and budget went for total CGI... when the movie was working and had part finished some really awsome prop and animatronic work that was well, AMAZING....

But time and budget meant they cut them short and relied more on CGI and as that budget and time restraint got closer to the end, well they had to spend less time and money on what ever shots was left.... this is why the last CGI Thing was well, utter utter pants, and poor and damaged the movie, yet the earlier scenes was not so bad.

And again our CGI Fifield looks kind of the same not as bad, but looks like it was done with not so much time and budget left, so not as polished or good and they had no time to redo another CGI shot or to go back and work on that AWSOME Animatronic model, and so i guess they stuck with the Toxic Avenger Fifield in the end..

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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