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Is Prometheus closer to the truth than we think?

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Necronom 4

MemberNeomorphSep-30-2013 11:27 AM
Just came across the following article on Yahoo news. I do remember Ridley saying something to the effect of "We are dancing around the truth," regarding the film Prometheus. Interested to know what you all think on the subject! [url=http://uk.news.yahoo.com/human-beings-came-from-another-planet--not-earth--new-book-claims-134335110.html#a3BiF69]Human beings came from another planet[/url]

The poster was good though!

 

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Necronom 4

MemberNeomorphSep-30-2013 12:09 PM
I personally don't buy it, when I think of all the Not rights and Inbreeds round where I live! And I think that there are explinations for the human physiological difficulties, like: 1. We don't like food that is good for us. That is because we are fed all sorts of rubbish when we are young and we get used to that taste. 2. Women find it extremely painful to give birth, something which no other animal on the planet has difficulty with. That's because humans evolved to walk upright, it caused a deformation in the female pelvis, making it increasingly difficult to give birth. The list goes on and i'm sure that it is all explainable.

The poster was good though!

 

Anunnaki50

MemberOvomorphSep-30-2013 5:49 PM
Many people think we are a hybrid species because we share so much with our primate cousins but lack so many other attributes. We humans have one of the weakest primate immune systems and even our Neanderthal brothers from 30,000 years ago have 8 times as many genetic differences than any other related species. Sumerian and Hebrew textual sources are the closest we get to figuring out where mankind came from. According to them we bred with THEM aka Anunnaki by taking an existing Hominoid and mixing it with theirs. All ancient texts are saying the same thing "that the gods made man in their likeness".

The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno

x_paden_x

MemberOvomorphSep-30-2013 9:54 PM
Well, the truth is we'll never know-- As humans we have this thirst for answers and knowledge, but 40 years from now y'know what they'll probably be saying "Do you remember those people from 40 years ago, they believed we came from a different planet." And we keep changing our hypotheis and everyone believes its the truth, Thing is we believed the world was flat for a very long time, That was proven wrong, And one day, The fact that the universe is flat, well that might be proven wrong one day too... We'll never know for certain... But thats okay

Life cannot be contained, it breaks walls, crashes through barriers sometimes painfully, but uh... Life uh, finds a way

Fleshvessel

MemberOvomorphOct-01-2013 8:23 AM
Certainly more plausible than old Xenu and the body thetans. But i'm only OT2, so what do i know- ask Tom Cruise.
THETRICKISNOTMINDINGITHURTS

Necronom 4

MemberNeomorphOct-01-2013 12:47 PM
:-)

The poster was good though!

 

PSYCHE

MemberOvomorphOct-01-2013 5:01 PM
Personally, I'm a muslim. I believe in God and creation but I'm also a pharmacist so I study and treasure science as well and I guess each side contributes to the truth in some shape or form that we're yet to understand. We can never know for sure. These questions about the validity of our findings, beliefs and religions have been going on for millennia and I don't see them being answered tomorrow or after and I guess since we're just one planet revolving around one star among billions, in one galaxy among billions of others and god knows if our universe lies in a multiverse where there are other universes, we'll never know enough. We will keep learning, finding, discovering, maybe even leaving earth to another planet due to this planet being no longer suitable for life in the near or far future and there will still be more and more to learn. To me, I rely on a lot of sources to look for the truth. Science is the stairs that we build and ascend to higher levels with, we go up step by step each day. We don't know how much scientific findings are hidden from us by governments or if we just misunderstood others or we're just exaggerating with our thinking and theories. We can't always rely on Occam's razor because while the simple explanation tends to be the right one, many times it isn't and the truth could be much more complicated. Maybe the truth is close to Prometheus film. Maybe we were indeed created by aliens whether intentionally or by accident. Maybe the Annunaki and Ancient Astronauts theories are all true and maybe not. But I never take info. from one source, I keep searching and reading various sources, scientific, pseudo-scientific, religious, philosophical and spiritual. So I'm open minded and as Elizabeth Shaw says, "It's what I choose to believe"

djamelameziane

MemberFacehuggerOct-02-2013 4:34 PM
Opening scene in part 2: engineer making love to a neandathal :) . And taking ancient text as fact is like asking a bloke down the local bar -soo unreliable!

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

Svanya

AdminPraetorianOct-02-2013 9:31 PM
@Necronom4; I don't agree with two of your comments. Not trying to gang up on you, but my personal experience with the subjects has been very different. #1:[i]Women find it extremely painful to give birth, something which no other animal on the planet has difficulty with.-Necronom 4[/i] That's not entirely true. All females struggle to give birth to a certain degree, some more than others. Not all humans experience extreme pain or have difficulty during birth and not all animals are calm and have a painless, easy birth. It's true human babies have bigger heads than other mammals at birth, but all mammals experience some discomfort and often they need assistance. Not as much as humans, but it does happen. The severity of labor pains depend on how calm the mother is, the environment she is in, the size and position of the baby and how many time the female has given birth before. With the majority of discomfort coming from cervical dilation, muscle pain, cramping and straining, not the size of the woman's hips. The latter causes are things all females, human or animal, experience during childbirth. [url=http://childbirth.org/articles/pain.html]Sources of Pain During Labor and Birth.[/url] #2:[i]We don't like food that is good for us. That is because we are fed all sorts of rubbish when we are young and we get used to that taste.-Necronom4[/i] That's not entirely true either. Based on personal experience kids love lean meats, fish, wholegrains, Soy, fruits and Vegetables and will choose those foods over junk foods if offered both. Some kids totally shun junk foods, or only eat tiny bites if exposed to it and often it will make them ill and cause vomiting. The only unhealthy thing all kids seem to have a taste for is sugar, but only in certain forms and not mixed with fats. I don't really know any kids that refuse to eat healthy or who don't have a natural liking for unrefined foods.

Necronom 4

MemberNeomorphOct-03-2013 5:06 AM
Hi Svanya, with all due respect, I don't agree. The wife works at the hospital in the maternity ward, she speaks to midwives and doctors all the time about babies and giving birth etc etc, since she wants to become a midwife herself. She's been told by these professionals, that, humans having such difficulty during childbirth is down to two main reasons: 1. Because the human brain became bigger during evolution, resulting in the cranium becoming larger, therefore making it difficult to squeeze out of the vagina. 2. When we evolved to stand and walk upright, our pelvis's evolved also making it difficult for women to give birth. There is also this link: [url=https://www.birthinternational.com/articles/birth/16-pain-in-labour]Birth International[/url] Also, I've never known any child who would choose healthy food over junk, but I suppose that has something to do with our upbringing.

The poster was good though!

 

djamelameziane

MemberFacehuggerOct-03-2013 5:20 AM
Necro actually attacks these points in his first post :P . But anyway yes - the reason people might think we came from another place is far more likely to be due to their lack of understanding of the whys. Like you say we are the only species with forethought to a high extent 'knowing' what is coming with birth - creating more pain - allot of pain can be created by the mind from nothing in some cases. Anyway just watch this BBC program it gos into why allot of things are the way they are and how we are only just beginning to understand it all - it is really good: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz_7vXf-w8s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz_7vXf-w8s[/url] whats particularly interesting is about half way through she starts to talk about the 'obstetrical dilemma' the theory of the big head two leg problem...and how theres actually probably another way of understanding it. I like the bit : we are more closely related to chimpanzees than chimps are to gorillas! Kinda puts a big problem on some of the theories out there! Ah just saw your post necro : I think its obvious that the food problem is because food was hard to find / get not long ago its only recently that we have developed farming etc. so if you think about it we grew to love fatty stuff - meat etc. and want to eat as much of it as possible unfortunately theres too much of it now - its too easy to get. And sugar is also a very recent thing for most humans - we just havnt evolved to modern life like so many things nowadays - life has changed very quickly compared with an evolutionary scale.

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

pulserifle187

MemberOvomorphOct-03-2013 5:54 AM
I don't believe that we evolved from a chimpanze or gorilla for that matter. If we did why are there still chimps and gorilla that haven't evolved. I do believe that we evolved from a type of primate of sorts. Perhaps this primate had a better collective of sharing information, which allowed it to develop quicker. There is a group of baboons in africa that over the last 20plus years have started to hunt flamingo birds. This is a great increase with the intake of proteins. Proteins are essential for the development of brain mass. They believe over generations the baboons will develop more and perhaps even evolve.
"how do you feel?"-" great, next stupid question"

djamelameziane

MemberFacehuggerOct-03-2013 6:08 AM
Pelse - what do you think Neanderthal were? They are a sub species - they think there were quiet a few types of early human but as they are in competition with modern humans they got wiped out or integrated or spread out - we don't all look the same as well :P . chimps live in tree areas as well - we evolved because of open plains which made us walk upright - u need to read a book about evolution :P !

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

Necronom 4

MemberNeomorphOct-03-2013 6:22 AM
@djamelamziane. Thanx for that link, it was very interesting. But what do you mean by "Necro actually attacks these points in his first post"? I don't understand..

The poster was good though!

 

pulserifle187

MemberOvomorphOct-03-2013 6:26 AM
@djamelameziane I do realize that neanderthals are a part of human evolution. Sorry I should of been more clear. My statment was regarding the first stages of evolution, the orgins. I believe that humans developed from a species of primate that no longer exsists, all of which have evolved. But unlike chimps and gorillas that really haven't evolved at all, only adapting to their environment.
"how do you feel?"-" great, next stupid question"

Necronom 4

MemberNeomorphOct-03-2013 6:34 AM
@Pulserifle. The way I see it is, humans and Neanderthals shared a common ancestor with all the great apes. We didn't evolve from chimps, we were a different but closely related ape to the chimp. Like an intelligent person who has a dumb cousin.

The poster was good though!

 

pulserifle187

MemberOvomorphOct-03-2013 6:48 AM
@necronom lol I agree. They say the DNA between human and apes is only a few percent, if that. But 1 percent is a massive difference.
"how do you feel?"-" great, next stupid question"

djamelameziane

MemberFacehuggerOct-03-2013 7:57 AM
Necro : ah I thought savanya had missed your first post after the original post - and was commenting on the article - never mind. And neandathals are just one of many off shoots which happen all the time even back to when we left the trees - some were maybe due to chimp ancestors or gorillas breeding with us at the beginning - the major change was massive areas of jungle in africa dying due to climate change. An 'opportunity' arose. And we were lucky enough to come about from it. If a chimp tried the same thing today it would get killed pretty quickly due to things such as us and I suppose lions etc. - the window of opportunity had left. But I bet quiet a few chimps and gorillas did start to do the same things as our ancestor its just we won the battle for supremacy as such. There is more to it but I dont have time... :P and yes we broke off from the chimps n gorillas and were a weird inbetweeny type ape that has changed very fast while chimps stayed the same - this is due to our environments changing much faster with the use of our minds as well - they simply stayed in the trees - lifeforms that have adapted to there environments almost perfectly don't really evolve very fast its like needs and musts. Time line : [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution[/url]

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

Svanya

AdminPraetorianOct-03-2013 5:37 PM
@Necronom 4; Well that is my point, it's about personal experience. You stated both things as if they were 100% fact set in stone, all I said that wasn't entirely true and that I have experienced something very different in relation to those two subjects. I just want to be clear that I agree with you our bigger heads make childbirth more difficult for humans than for other mammals. I wasn't disputing that, I was talking about the pain aspect of giving birth. I don't want to go into detail, but I have witnessed (was literally IN the delivery room) human births where the mother has walked around smiling and talking the whole time then delivered with minimal pain and effort, so yes it does indeed happen. That is all I am saying. :D

Necronom 4

MemberNeomorphOct-04-2013 5:09 AM
Hi Svanya, i'm not saying you're wrong! It's just what makes the most sense to me. Maybe if the woman as had gas and air or a epidural she won't feel the pain so much.

The poster was good though!

 

Anunnaki50

MemberOvomorphOct-04-2013 4:50 PM
Quit while your ahead Necronom4 your a boy and thats childbirth its either painful or not really that painful because of the epidural they give them i the spine.

The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno

Necronom 4

MemberNeomorphOct-04-2013 5:47 PM
:-)

The poster was good though!

 

Svanya

AdminPraetorianOct-04-2013 10:11 PM
In both cases it was 100% natural childbirth, no gas (Hospitals don't use/offer gas in childbirth here) and no epidural. :D On a side note, I wanted to show you this interesting article published in[b] Scientific American[/b] that I found: [url=http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2012/08/28/why-humans-give-birth-to-helpless-babies/]Why Humans Give Birth to Helpless Babies[/url]. I had always heard babies were born with less developed brains than other mammals because of the mothers hip size but this says some zoologists and Paleoanthropologists have done new research on the subject. [i]Anthropologists have long thought that the size of the pelvis has limited human gestation length. New research may challenge that view.[/i] It's all very interesting stuff. :D

Ruhaniya

Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphOct-05-2013 3:29 AM
Ya we came from an ancient astronauts frozen space doogie. Evolution without the creator is Evilution. Thanks Darwin!

Necronom 4

MemberNeomorphOct-05-2013 5:23 AM
Thanks for sharing the link, it is very interesting.

The poster was good though!

 

djamelameziane

MemberFacehuggerOct-05-2013 7:01 AM
I guess you didnt click my youtube link on the last page it has that holly dunsworth in it savanya! Its all about what ya talking about!

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

Svanya

AdminPraetorianOct-05-2013 4:42 PM
@djamelameziane; I saw it, it just didn't click with me that she was the same person! That is so cool! @Necronom 4; It's an interesting article isn't it.

Necronom 4

MemberNeomorphOct-05-2013 4:55 PM
Yes it is. But with the misses being baby mad and wanting one of her own, I have to sit through that sort of thing ALL THE TIME! I tend to just take myself off to another room and log onto a site called SciFied. So you've got her to thank for that. lol

The poster was good though!

 

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