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MemberOvomorphDec-13-2016 12:51 AMthe very fact there were elderly engineers confirm that they too have never beaten aging. thus curing weyland was impossible.
however I believe they have life extension techniques which they apply on themselves so they have huge muscular young bodies.
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MemberDeaconJul-05-2017 6:34 AMHa ha nice to see SPAM Bump this thread...
Very interesting thread maybe the Newbies may want to give TWO Cents.... but first time to deal with the Spammers. :)
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MemberOvomorphJul-22-2017 6:32 PMNo they are not, after Dr Elizabeth Shaw tried to re-animate the engineer head retrieved from the pyramid it exploded.
David comments "Mortal after all"
Sir Peter Weyland's quest for immortality was out of the belief that he as a creator could extend the life of his creations. Why not the engineers? Vickers knows her father's quest is a fool's errand, every king has his reign and then dies. It's inevitable.
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MemberTrilobiteJun-06-2018 12:33 AMStrangely, a spammer made me see this thread. To the OP, I saw no evidence in neither Prometheus nor AC pointing towards immortality save for Pete's notion of it. We should also consider relativity- an insect may live a few days compared to us- immortality to them if they can conceive the concept, while our lives seem short compared to cedar trees- if they can conceive or even care about the concept.
Covenant pretty much demonstrated only artificial life could be immortal.
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MemberDeaconJun-06-2018 7:50 AMWell Once again..... Thanks for a Spammer Bump....
I can no go back and reflect on this Topic as 5 years have passed by.
The Engineers may have been portrayed in Prometheus as who Ancient Mankind saw as the Gods... which lead Dr Shaw and Holloways findings to speculate maybe they could be Godlike... which Weyland hoped for... but as David pointed out... our Engineers are Mortal After-all.
The start of the Engineers introduction from Jon Spaights drafts are that the Engineers are a very Ancient Humanoid Race, who have passed Milestones in Technology, Engineering and Genetics and have thus Modified their Species over maybe Millions of years, so that they have discovered ways to make their Organs/Genetic Material Age at a very slow Rate, they have likely cured/made themselves immune to nearly all Diseases/Illnesses and have discovered a Elixir of Life and thus found a way to Beat Aging.. well slow this rate down.
As we saw Older Engineers...... so they Age at a much slower rate, what we also find out is the Engineers are Many Thousands of Years old, so while they are NOT Immortal they can Live for a Extremely Long Time, they can be killed by serve Mortal Wounds and maybe Infections they have no knowledge/cure or immunity to.. And Certain Bio-Logical Warfare such as their own BLACK-GOO
Jon Spaights ideas also introduce us to these Engineers have MAYBE Engineered themselves so far, so they LIVE for such long times and their Organs Age at such a Slow Rate, and they are also Immune to a lot of Diseases and Illnesses that EVENTUALLY this lead to their Species becoming Sterile and could not Pro-create. Thus the reason for the Sacrificial Rituals to Spread their Seed/Genetic Material.
Prometheus was more ambiguous it appeared to follow the same scenario but was so vague that its hard to tell how much of the Information/Plan as far as the Engineers are concerned actually is applicable to Prometheus. The DELETED Scenes seem to add up more to Jon Spaights VISION but its can they be taken as Canon... For Example can we ACCEPT that there are ELDER Engineers (Engineers who appear to be very Aged).
NOW.... that we have Alien Covenant this movie did introduce us to some things that maybe reveal more about the Engineers. We see beings who appear related to the Engineers but appear more Human, almost like these beings are Hybrids Half Engineer/Half Human... or another related Species... a Missing Link if you would.
These beings also have Females so it makes us Question WHY the Sacrificial Ritual? But we can assume the Sacrificial Scene took place Many Millions of Years ago... and so were there any Females at this Time? Was the Sacrificial Route intended to Create Females to Mate with? Did they have Females prior?
Who knows.... all we know is that it appears maybe they had Females for Thousands of Years at least... if not all the time...
The other INTERESTING piece of information that Ridley Scott had mentioned regarding our Engineers are that those PLANET-4 Engineers are the Original Engineers and that they LIVE for about 150 years
So not only do those Engineers appear more Human than the Prometheus ones, they are also slightly smaller (not all but some) showing more variation in their height and size. They appear to SHUN the Prometheus Engineers Technology... And indeed appear very much MORTAL
Which could take us down the Path that the Prometheus Engineers are a Species that had Genetically Engineered themselves to be similar to Jon Spaights Engineers. Maybe this was what the Engineers attempted, to gain IMMORTALITY to a degree, but this came at a Price... a Hubris... and so the Engineers abandoned the Notion of Trying to Perfect Themselves.
But again the LV-223 Engineers could just as easily have been to the Planet 4 Engineers as Replicants are to Mankind.
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MemberOvomorphSep-12-2019 9:42 PMHaven't the Engineers been verified as human by a DNA test? Therefore they can't be immortal. Or am I missing something?