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The equal opposite of life is death!

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HICKS

MemberOvomorphApr-17-2013 6:27 PM
The equal opposite of life is death! [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1YHOeCQXR0k/T97sALRAqtI/AAAAAAAAA5w/49_JrLxcC6Y/s1600/df.png[/img] That is the black liquid organic, that is what is in the pots and that's what that protected both Engineers!, Just death and will understand it only when stop thinking about Death, as something metaphorical If Life has its essence, why not Death? Shaw said it and I never understood, had to do the movie verbatim, Shaw said "the ship carrying Death and heads to Earth" View Organic Death as something made me understand all the Movie The First Engineer (the Sacrifice) is an example of Organic Life, (all living things are examples of organic life) The First Engineer had to drink Death (Because in the beginning of the world there was no Death), this caused the absence of Life (Death), but the engineers knew that the (Death Organic or Organic Liquid Black) was also affected by other elements (like water) thereby causing the continuation of life! And if they see it in this way will give answers to all questions not answered on Prometheus! I have responded to mine and now it all makes sense! *Edit; Added extra thoughts* Just imagine that! The Engineer of Sacrifice has eternal life, and this idea lies in one fact, (cell regeneration in your body), technically this works well, the passage of time does not affect it, because your body is constantly regenerating your cells, if the it hurts "guess what happens" is regenerated. Now you think, "but you can get sick"! and I say! Wait a minute. Can not Get sick, because because its quality protects your body, (but there is another more powerful reason) Diseases do not exist! Do not forget that we are talking about the beginning! They now have an idea of a world without death, but that does not mean there is no death. They manipulated Engineers also Life and Death!, Tabi Engineers knew that these two "entities" by nature worked together! (They, Life needed to create Death, and Death to create Life!) Now, Let the Engineer of Sacrifice (and you will tell me "but if he has eternal life" can not die "!) The engineer put her directly Sacrifice your body in contact with the "organic essence of death" on a cell battle, he knew, was going to lose!, But also knew that the clash between these two "entities" (life and death) was also conditional on the interaction of the elements, and Physical laws existing in the environment or ecosystem Planet which developed the "shock" of these "entities" (life and Death) Water speak! Well, we all know that proliferates in water scientifically Life, and more! Biblically there is also this reference, the Bible tells us and tells us about the Rivers of Living Water or just (water is life!) Engineers, also knew this! That the interaction of the Engineer with death, in contact with an element like water, would have resulted Life! A kind nascent genome derived directly from engineers! But the clash of these two "entities" (Life and Death) cost, the new breed created, did not possess the same qualities organic, (quality of limited regeneration) and also there is the fact that part of the essence of the death, was widespread in the plant at the time of sacrifice! Ebola, Cancer, AIDS or simply cold (all are remnants of the essencia of Death in the beginning) Now began the existence of Death in the world! Add to that, the new breed lacks the quality of regenerating, (now we are mere mortals) Be Very course, in the context of this idea! "Eternal Life, Immortality does not mean" We are Extensions of life and all living things so is every organic entity in this world that has life, is an "extention of life" (something like a tool of Life) and logic, our main function is "create life", somo capable of that because life itself gave us this gift! and this is the meaning of the "sacrifice of the Engineer" but death can also do the same (but in the opposite direction to life) generates death death! Worms and fifield are a clear example of this! they were in contact with Death and Death's turned into an extension of it, transformed into tools for creating death, (this is very clear in the film), and the highest expression of this "extention" is the xenomorph! " The xenomorph is the opposite version of an Engineer. The Engineer is the ultimate expression of life, and by nature a "creator of life." The xenomorph is the ultimate expression of Death, and by nature a "creator of Death". Engineers created us a very powerful reason, and this reason leads to this question. Are we as a race, worthy of eternal life? Engineers created us like them, but not equal to them (do not forget that we are a race Mortal) Created went well, so we could live and understand the above concept, of Life and Death "of the extensions and the nature of them". Somehow, we had to reach a collective maturity as a race, to make us worthy of eternal life, so that the human race had to be aware of its nature and environment of life and death in which they had been created, understand and comprehend the interactions of these two "entities" (life and death) How to become worthy of eternal life, if we are not worthy of it? Engineers hoped that we, our understanding convirtieramos wisdom!, 'But we must first understand the concept of eternal life does not necessarily mean literally what the word says. The engineers needed our race we passed this test, to be worthy of a "Life Eternal Knowledge"
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cuponator3000

MemberChestbursterApr-18-2013 10:15 PM
Fifield must have been in the transition. or his mind was gone, but he was still functioning. I meant his mind was gone as in he couldn't think or anything, not that it just disappeared

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FREEZE!

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphApr-18-2013 10:22 PM
Zombie Fifield, LOVES ROCKS AND BRAINS ;)
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shambs

MemberOvomorphApr-18-2013 11:13 PM
There is an interesting point with the issue of genetic imperfections of humanity, because the black goo extracted the DNA from the Engineer for later release into the waters. The Genetics of this humanoids is superior to that of the human, so when the black goo infects a person only extracts and collects diseases and imperfections, giving rise to a monstrosity. In conclusion we are not worthy to use this technology to create life (constructive life at least). Although there is still a possibility that part of the essence from the Jon Spaihts script is preserved in the final film. In that case, the black goo creates a new life form based in the original (the engineer disintegrating). Taking into account the above, the urns containing the DNA from a life form similar to a xenomorph. Just imagine that the Engineers inject the Black goo into the veins of this ancestral xeno form. During the process the beast disintegrates and the result is the black material in the urns.

Batchpool

MemberFacehuggerApr-18-2013 9:14 PM
I love these concepts. This might sound strange, but if the opposite of life is death and vice versa. Could you have an afterlife and an afterdeath. I guess this would depend on how life and death are defined, especially within the context of this thread. I’m wondering if Fifield became in a state of after death. Not dead, but not after life either.

HICKS

MemberOvomorphApr-19-2013 12:20 PM
Excellent point! also I have the answer for this, this evening will update this thread!

x_paden_x

MemberOvomorphApr-19-2013 8:49 PM
quote ellie from jurassic park "-explosion sound- just... yeah" thats my mind right now....

Life cannot be contained, it breaks walls, crashes through barriers sometimes painfully, but uh... Life uh, finds a way

Anunnaki50

MemberOvomorphApr-19-2013 9:15 PM
Interesting Hicks its very insightful with some wisdom and intelligence all woven together. In Prometheus eternal life could mean being remembered for all time and also for a species to continue without being extinct. Who knows technology could make us live longer and longer like the Engineers.

The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno

Svanya

AdminPraetorianApr-19-2013 10:14 PM
Bravo Hicks. [Center][img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcz617rSy01r38j04o1_500.gif[/img][/Center]

shambs

MemberOvomorphApr-19-2013 11:13 PM
Yes, the xenomorphs could be the opposite version of an Engineer, and at the same time this thought can make the mural less ambiguous; adding more sense. [img]http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj636/skybeast3/tumblr_mbdxaprhm91qd09yko1_500_zpsf50f0c47.jpg[/img] This image seems an altar in reference to a creator of death and as you say in the beginning we have the creator of life and then we find this counterpart like a demon, or more like the other side of the coin, because the basis of this is the black goo, the tool of the life. These thoughts in this thread can make sense of much of the mysteries and vague details of the movie, but more importantly: the xenomorph has meaning as part of a metaphor about life and death or even like the forbidden fruit. The mortals are imperfect and now they want to get their hands on the wheels of life unleashing chaos and death. It's almost as if the xenomorph is a personification of the worst of humanity. Maybe the invitation is a test for us to understand the purpose of our origins and so maybe in the future we can achieve immortality, but; what if that mural with Xenomorph / Deacon is a representation of our destiny? [img]http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj636/skybeast3/fiery-cross_1920x1080_74506_zpsa617908c.jpg[/img] Now my apologies if some of the members here are religious people, but you remember that this is just a movie and these are our theories about it. Now back to the thread; maybe we torture and kill an engineer in the past (maybe 2000 years ago?) and the only thing that this wise wanted was save us from death, teach us how to achieve immortality. But unfortunately we crucify him and now this is our destiny for that. [img]http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj636/skybeast3/prometheusalienmuralcrop_zps0990c06a.jpg[/img] The mural has a form of a xeno-creature in crucified position but IMO that Xenomorph in the mural is actually the humanity because the black goo will extract the impurities and imperfections of our DNA to transform us into these monstrosities. We crucify an engineer from the past, but now we will suffer a fate far worse. Probably the reason for these visits is to transfer knowledge, perhaps to prepare us to go to LV-223, because it was supposed that in that moon was the final test; our jump to become creators of life as the Engineers. [img]http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj636/skybeast3/tumblr_m60k84VjJw1qc8i5v_zps76be8dda.jpg[/img] But then something went terribly wrong, causing our creators change their opinion about our fate and now there is only death in LV-223. The Engineers are biologically immortal, and his perfect DNA is the only genetic material necessary to create life. Then they can make the decision to make a sacrifice to plant life on planets. The humans are mortal, therefore they are not prepared to use the tool life. The legacy of God prevails with this sacrifice because his creation is made in his image. Weyland just try to imitate life with a synthetic demonstrating that humanity has a long way to go in its evolution to reach the perfection of the creators.

Redhead Ripley

MemberOvomorphApr-20-2013 11:26 PM
Excellent, excellent thread...! :-) What if our only imperfection is our impurity/bed intentions... And that is what triggers the way of the mutation after you are exposed to the black goo? Good intention= creation of the life, bad intentions=creation of a monstrosity, like you suggested previously.. :-)
I have a pretty good idea of where it is. It's just down there, in the basement....

Cerulean Blue

MemberFacehuggerApr-22-2013 1:19 PM
Best thread in a while! Thank-you all!

hadeze

MemberOvomorphApr-22-2013 4:01 PM
the seed that was planted on Earth, at the beginning of P1 was not a seed of good intentions. when watching the disintegration of the Engineer in the cascading waterfall, the strands of DNA/RNA are not healthy looking. They are disfigured, dark, green, all the wrong colour, they look sickly, putrified, downright rotten ... the opposite of a direction leading to positive evolution. only bad could come from these sickly strands. Indeed, this separate beginning of DNA/RNA looks like a work of evil intent. what do we know what the cylinder-shaped vessel was testing? they were testing a strand of DNA/RNA that included evil. the coloration of the disparate strands suggests very bad things are to come. and bad things did come from the seed that produces humanoids and lastly homo sapiens. did we (homo sapiens) not step over every one our ancestral cousins, recently, the neanderthalers (30T yrs ago) on our way forward ? munch, munch. humanoids were multiple, contemporaneous species on Earth, yet all are exterminated on the way forward, save the most vicious. as children of an evil Engineer and corrupted DNA/RNA we bury other humanoids, namely all our ancestral cousins, who resemble us. no wonder then that some Engineers say enough is enough and plan to plough all humanoids back into the ground from whence they crawled forth. Nietzsche says the same thing in Zarathustra. Who we are now, must first be destroyed before a cleaner, healthier rebirth begins.

HICKS

MemberOvomorphApr-24-2013 5:09 PM
@ hadeze Ever seen a newborn baby (born with your mind or body, rotten or dirty, as you say)?!!

belladonna

MemberOvomorphMay-09-2013 8:37 PM
i "drank death" twice myself. once it was in a bottle labeled "mad dog 20/20" and the second time it was in a can labeled "steel reserve".
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