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The Engineers Home Planet

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tankgirl

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-14-2012 7:04 PMI was looking at the image of the Engineers and started thinking about their clothing... It looks as if it is cotton and they have a rope styled belt a metal pin.....holding the cape and a neck decoration that appears to be made of fibres.... [img]http://doubleonothing.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/prometheus-elder-engineers.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/prometheus_engineers_deleted_opening_scene.jpg[/img] I began wondering whether we could start working out what their home planet looks like by working backwards from these clues....as you would with forensic evidence... so...cotton and plant fibres....... does that mean their planet has plants ? and what is the Vial made from that holds the goo?? clay...wood..plastic? There is the large circular spaceship and the juggernaut etc etc the material used to build these may have come from thier planet? We know they are carbon based ....what about the atmosphere of their home planet...do we know when they needed their suits or not to breath?? they seem to be able to breathe naturally on Earth?? so oxygen??
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jenskarlsson

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-14-2012 7:25 PMyou post some very interesting ideas. im not sure im clever enough to figure out much from that info but thats a very good way of reasoning... perhaps the earth is made in the image of their homeworld, in some respect. although hopefully it will also be different in interesting ways. i have always imagined the bowl and their ships to be made out of some strange sort of metal that may not be comparable to anything on earth... it all seems a lot more organic in design anyway. hard to know for sure though. keep up the good work ;)

Albert West

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-14-2012 8:07 PMThose images are beautiful. I never thought to examine the items that the Engineers wear and then try and fathom what their home world would be like. You are correct in your method Tank and I am sure there are fans on this site that would love to try and explore this thread. Cotton, therefore many crops of different variety, therefore stable atmosphere and seasonal climate, not forgetting plenty of water, oxygen, carbon dioxide, nitrogen etc..... Time to get the white board out and do some flow-charts. The question is this: At the time we meet the Engineers in Prometheus, is their planet still habitable or has some catastrophe occurred where Paradise has turned into a hell-hole? Great thread Tanky :)

pulserifle187

OvomorphMember28 XPDec-15-2012 3:00 AMtankgirl, prometheus CIS, you re so forensics. All in all you are the right track i think. Love the picture, going by all the wrinkles and how they form, i think the engineers have all the same emotions as humans too.
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ZetaReticuli

OvomorphMember26 XPDec-15-2012 3:06 AMMakes me think now of possible disparate aspects of their culture: supreme technology and sat at looms cross-legged and weaving for their lives, lol. Seriously, this is a level-headed observation Tankgirl and a refreshing topic. I would've preferred the attire to have been non-woven and possibly completely alien - pixels or liquid clothing for example.

JooJoobee

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-15-2012 4:28 AMIt will be a global shrine to H.R. Giger

DenzelTH

OvomorphMember3 XPDec-15-2012 5:07 AMThey would have to have resources, and i think at the time of this sacrifice, their home planet was fresh, and true paradise. So millions of years later, and some goo experiments, some good, some bad,we have the new suit, i think is a new age space suit fused with the goo. I think some Engineers got into the whole fusing with the goo, but it turned them mental, and the ones who stayed away, were probably sacrificed by being facehugged or even got away. I want it Paradise!
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Major Noob

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-15-2012 9:44 AMTankgirl: I have my own top secret ideas about this. That I'm not going to tell you. Apologies, MN

Batchpool

FacehuggerMember357 XPDec-15-2012 8:16 PMIf there is one thing that does stand out about the appearance of the engineers and their clothes, is the lack of pigmentation in both skin and clothing. I've not spotted any with tattoos either. Their fingernails have a terra cotta look, All very basic and earthy.

zzplural

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-15-2012 11:22 PMThe Sacrificial Engineers behave almost like monks. They have amazing technology at their disposal, but they choose to dress in an ancient style. Which is fair enough. I imagine that woven fibres are to be found in the development of many galactic civilisations (sometimes the simplest ideas are the best). I'll tell you what I think about the Engineer 'home planet',,, it has been lost in the mists of time, many hundreds of millions of years ago. Now they are a galactic race. 'Paradise' is a portal to another dimension, closer to the idea of heaven than somewhere that is just a wonderful place.
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caenorhabhditis

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-16-2012 9:52 AMi reckon at some point small planets will be used for a single purpose ie a planet for wheat a planet for cotton a mining planet (of course that not an original idea) it makes sense as populations grow rather than spoiling the varied ecosystem of your homeworld with superfarms in the way we got rid of rainforest for palm plantations/cattle to terraform small unused planets for a single purpose. maybe theyd have done that then their homeworld might be all rainforest with ecofreindly powered cities for temples and habitation so-on, unless there had been an outbreak or war? i really cant imagine how paradise will be! it seems too avataresque to be all alien rainforest and too predictable for it to be a global giger shrine cool as that would be! maybe it should just be like earth! but bigger! and the difference will be how the people live their way of life etc.....
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Batchpool

FacehuggerMember357 XPDec-16-2012 3:06 PMI can imagine Paradise to be a future Giger-esque version of Ancient Rome, with giant colosseums and maybe some pyramid type structures. Something Richard Burton would have been proud to make a speech about.

caenorhabhditis

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-16-2012 3:38 PMrome! yeah
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caenorhabhditis

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-16-2012 3:40 PMhahaha! engineer praetorian guards.... engineer gladiatorial arena with shaw armed only with davids head versus angry bob gladiators and xenos on chains instead of the tigers "are you not enterntaaineddd!!!!"
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Batchpool

FacehuggerMember357 XPDec-16-2012 4:25 PMBen Hur style Juggernaut racing could bring a whole new meaning to Chariots of the Gods. I would definitely pay good money to see something like that.

astromax

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-18-2012 1:45 PMHmmmm, maybe KFZ too.

BLANDCorporatio

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-19-2012 11:26 AMirt. [b]JooJoobee[/b]: my thoughts exactly. It's a world, Jim, but not as we know it. irt. [b]caenorhabhditis[/b] (on the gladiatorial combat): YES! That needs to happen NAO! irt. [b]Batchpool[/b]: fair point on the lack of colors. Maybe the light of their world is dim and/or with a reduced spectrum? So as to impede color vision? Oh, PS, why does their world -have- to be a planet?
The whole point of this is lost if you keep it a secret.

BLANDCorporatio

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-20-2012 2:38 PMirt. [b]Indy John[/b]: about physicality and being buff, you may be right about the strata of Engineer society, but some things are a bit more complex in the history of Earth. The people who work out today, usually, tend to be better off, financially. Getting rippin' abs isn't just a matter of exercise, diet is also important. The fact that you have time for exercise is in itself telling. And, things weren't that different in ancient times. Many of the poorer people weren't very physically imposing, because they didn't have much to eat and because many of the 'lowly' jobs weren't that physical. Then again, some definitely were (and the people doing them, while poor, were kept well nourished). I'm thinking of the English Navvies of the 18th-19th century- those people had to shift ludicrous amounts of earth and rock around. Miners in general tended to be burly. I'd also expect rowers in galleys to have some muscle mass. Soldiers in general but Archers in particular needed to be very well conditioned. Peasants, cobblers, workhands in factories- not really.
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Indy John

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-20-2012 2:28 PMI note that in the opening sceen the Engineer seemed perfectly at ease in whatever temperature was there at the falls, Something temperate I suspect. Their physicallity seemed to me to be a working class used to manual labor. It would be hard to believe their intellectual capacity was huge compared to our minds and just worked out to develop a body displayed.
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Indy John

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-21-2012 11:14 AM".. The fact that you have time for exercise is in itself telling...." I had not thought of that, I guess during the Middle ages not everyone took a 4 week vacation each year. Now that you mention it 'redneck' is term that started from farmers working on the farm out in the hot sun that didn't wear the wigs of the genteel set. In fact the term 'Blue Bloods' was applied to a class of citizens that never went out into the sun thinking the paler the skin the more aristocratic they were and quite above in social standing to any people of dark or darker skin. That is a sad commentary on humanity. Blue blood was the term given to folks because the blue colored veins could easily be seen thru pale skin. In this light(no pun intended) our Sacrificicial Engineer may have been bred and conditioned just for this moment , the creation of new life. This sort of implies a caste system on the Engineer's home world. Any aliens, xeno or otherwise, that the Engineers discovered would automatically be 2nd class(or servents) and have no chance to be equals. (Right Weyland?)
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BLANDCorporatio

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-21-2012 11:28 AMirt. [b]Indy John[/b]: Quite possible that it will turn out the Engineers have a multi-layered society. I don't know what the markers of status are. You said it- bluee bloods were out of the sun, the less tan the better; being fat was a sign of being prosperous in the early modern period. Then things swung, as most jobs today aren't in the sun, being perpetually tan and thin is a sign of affluence as it shows one can afford tanning, exercise, and healthy diets. I am a bit curious why they need to sacrifice one of their own to seed a planet with life. Thematically it makes sense, it brings to the fore several magical ideas. From a techie standpoint, it's a very weird detail. And weird details may have interesting explanations :)
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caenorhabhditis

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-21-2012 12:16 PMirt. BLANDCorporatio "I am a bit curious why they need to sacrifice one of their own to seed a planet with life." they maybe wouldnt need to, but not being gods and unlike humans in this storyverse maybe they did (know gods) and were told or decided that if you wanted to create life 'legitimately' (within some ancient alien code of honour) then the price was you would have to lose a life..... it would explain the possible disapproval of the engineer re. David. Sort of like if you went to a load of hassle and cost to get planning permisson for something only to see a neighbour flinging up ugly extensions willy-nilly.
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caenorhabhditis

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-21-2012 12:17 PMor maybe its some kind of sanction! but for what?
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BLANDCorporatio

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-21-2012 12:23 PMirt. [b]caenorhabhditis[/b]: Exactly, the possibilities are worth looking into. I don't think we have the info needed to decide on one right now, but hopefully the sequel will explore some answer to that question as well. As your post shows, an answer here implies other things, as well.
The whole point of this is lost if you keep it a secret.

caenorhabhditis

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-21-2012 12:37 PMi really am hoping for massive plot twists along with the scares and the wows
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Indy John

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-21-2012 1:50 PMOf special interest oncerning this thread is a look at the Engineer's world The problem is I can't imagine a follow-up story that is all aliens and just two leftovers from the Prometheus movie. It would have to one hell of a storyline to capture our attention for a couple of hours screen time. Flashbacks are a possibility to fill out several back stories that have been discussed at this tie, However except for 'Usual Suspects" I have not found this storytelling style interesting. For me a Engineers' story involving many humans would be of great interest.
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BLANDCorporatio

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-21-2012 1:57 PMirt. [b]Indy John[/b]: That is one of my concerns too. I wouldn't mind a story of just two explorers on an isolated journey to a strange locale, but it would be a huge risk for a studio to green-light a script which is mostly about two people on a boat, basically, and then throw a huge wad of money at it. Blockbusters these days just tend not to be ... atmospherically paced. My guess (after I've had a crack of writing a story myself- we all did, right? lol), is that the film will dispense with the journey to the Engineer world as quickly as possible. Once you get there, all sorts of surprises can happen, because you have a large pool of potential characters. And not all of them have to be Engineers. I do like the Colosseum idea, btw. It's delightfully cheesy.
The whole point of this is lost if you keep it a secret.

Indy John

OvomorphMember0 XPJan-21-2013 1:52 PMLooking at all of the pix of the Elders, watching the little we know of the Engineers in our movie and few comments by posters the Engineers just don't seem like happy people. I mean look at Shaw. Here she is , after finding the greatest discovery known to man , still wanting to take a roll in the hay . I want to see Engineeers having a good time....or discover why they are so serious. In fact i want to know if they are bio-mech to the point that excludes all personal agendas to paraphrased Vickers.
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