Mural shows definite classic alien hands and egg.

genjitsu17 Thank you I was hoping that things like this will become more evident after the blu ray is released. I guess when you have watched the movie at blu ray definition for the 10 th time and start analysing the movie frame by frame things might show up that you never noticed before. Here's hoping.....

yup. ive been screaming about the classic xeno/alien hand and the classic xeno/alien egg since june. I agree. I think this particular ceiling fresco is a very important artifact in the film. I never understood why people didnt want to talk about what is depicted in this fresco (everyone seemed to just want to talk about the bas relief). Anyways...yeah...both the egg and the hand/arm depicted in this fresco are analogous to the hand/egg shown in Alien (1979). Its important to note that, although some features of the deacon are similar to the classic alien, the hand/arm of the deacon is markedly different from the hand/arm of the classic alien. No question...this fresco depicts the creature shown to us in Alien (1979) AND the egg(s) shown to us in Alien (1979). Obviously the aforementioned bioweapons existed prior to the adventures of Shaw and Co. More evidence that the deacon isnt technically a "proto-xeno". I agree that many answers are present (or at least intimated at) in prometheus.

To all I wonder if the hands of the Xenomorphs a2(TC /DC) are the same ? I also remember milburn saying something about the hammerpede having a translucent skin ? Did any of the xenomorph in a2 to a4 have translucent skin ?

what the hell are you guys all talking about? [b]hint:[/b] a PICTURE (of this fresco) paints a thousand words, ya dig? :)

http://www.prometheus-movie.com/gallery/view/img/441 (hope the above picture/link works. not really sure what im doing here. hell...just copy and paste the link into your browser.) The abovementioned picture is featured as one of the two frescos on the ceiling in the ampule room (the two frescos im referencing are not the same thing as the bas relief that charlie shines his flashlight on etc.) anyways...its very clear that the fresco in question is depicting both a classic Alien arm/hand and a classic egg/spore. This particular piece of artwork indicates that the eggs and xeno we see in Alien pre-date the adventures of shaw and co (ie: the deacon isnt technically a proto-xeno). This is definitely a purposeful decision on the part of the filmmakers. Its quite possible that the eggs/spores existed prior to the ampules and its very likely that the classic alien pre-dates the deacon. Though the derelict craft found on LV 426 might not be quite as old as we initially thought, id bet real money that it had been laying there on LV 426 for a while (approximately 2000 yrs) by the time shaw and co. set down on LV 223.

Yeah I have to agree with all of your thoughts on this joeyjoe. When you take everything in the movie plus everything stated by the filmmakers and add it together it seems very clear that the original xeno predates the Deacon. I only thought it was a proto-xeno in the very beginning. And even then when I personally called it that I meant it as a part of the life-cycle-- something that would precede a facehugger/eggs and works based on a different side of the lifecycle. Usually dead by the time we see eggs/a hive in the other movies. Preceding the steps we know of in the life cycle so far-- every time a hive is created. But the Deacon is a weird new hybrid form of Alien that leans more on the morphing side than usual when eggs/a hive are absent because of the way the black liquid rewrites genetic material. Instead of being an old Prototype form of the Alien. It could be a backup form of reproduction that's been enhanced by the engineer's meddling, Causing the outbreak while the organism morphs through other life-cycles to attempt to reach its pure state again and start a hive/kingdom. Additionally the Deacon is a lot more male than most are thinking because of the way the Engineers are Engineered to be super male and lack, or have suppressed, organs that differentiate towards the female side because of the influence of our 23rd pair of chromosomes. They should have two sexes if they're a genetic match for us... but maybe their genes have been slightly altered. Trapping the female side below the surface. " A king has his reign and then he dies... it's inevitable" Even in the beginning I was more so thinking we would see a mutation plot and the return of the morphing cycle. On some very basic thematic levels Prometheus also shares similarities with one of the unused Alien 3 scripts along with the unexplored ideas from the original movie. In the beginning I believed we would see the Alien genetics miniaturized and weaponized by the Engineers. Turned into spores or something similar and released in the air causing characters to mutate into Aliens at a genetic level, but it wasn't the air. Obviously i wasn't expecting this entirely, but what we got shares some thematic links-- while not going too far with the mutation thing yet.

[url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/gallery/view/img/441]here is a link for it[/url]

OK, well, now that we know the entire movie was in fact originally a direct prequel and was changed to a non-prequel well into pre-production - sets were already built labelled Magellan and not Prometheus - then what all this probably means is this chamber in fact is used to create xenos. Everything would corroborate that - the murals, the bas relief, all of it. But of course I still don't get why the mural changed from one to another in the first place. Very confusing.