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Future of the series - Prometheus' Sequel(s) - Ideas, Expectations & Desires

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OvomorphMember0 XPSep-29-2012 11:08 PMAlright, ladies and gentlemen. This has been a long time coming, and i believe it is finally about time that this thread came into existence. It has come to my attention that threads; no matter what the topic, have their topics go in a different direction completely. This topic of discussion that forms in threads is very specific. Very diverse. But is nontheless one. The reactions to Prometheus have been skewed. Whether or not you like, or dislike the film. Whether or not you were disappointed, or your feelings were the polar opposite; completely satisfied. People can't seem to help themselves, and start discussing improvements, what could have been. What should have been. And what could have generally improved Prometheus, and made it a superior film. I too was extremely disatisfied with Prometheus. But i'm still a fan! A fan of this world. This series. And i know that this is just the beginning. So, in that respect, i will be starting this thread for Prometheus, as a whole, as a series. It's a bit difficult naming the series; but that name will emerge in time. So no matter. I'm sure you all understand what this thread applies to. Every subsequent sequel that is in correlation with Prometheus. A thread where people can share their ideas. Expectations. Desires, and hopes. I strongly believe that we, as the fans. As the community that is passionate about this series, deserve to be heard by the producers, by even Ridley Scott himself. And everyone involved in production and development of the series. I have seen countless threads travel down this different path. And change their topics to this aforementioned, creative discussion. And i have heard nothing but great things. Excellent ideas from the community. From the members. Here's to all of you, and you're imagination! Here, we can compile this wonderful creativity. Let the discussion begin!
155 Responses to Future of the series - Prometheus' Sequel(s) - Ideas, Expectations & Desires

Ernst Carlsson

OvomorphMember0 XPOct-11-2013 5:20 PMI am sorry for interrupting any discussion going on here, and I am also sorry for first writing what I had to say in swedish then using google translate, only fixing the worst grammar errors in the text I wish to share, but here is my idea about the Alien universe: --------ENGLISH------------- Thinking a bit about Alien: - The reason that The Facehugger in the first movie did its job so well in humans was because humanity is not a unique breed. There are people on lots of other planets, not exactly the same people, the evolution goes its course different on all planets, but with its heart in the right place , so to speak. An Alien Movie could therefore be taking place on another planet with humanoid characters, a fresh start with a humanity who has not yet found Aliens and where this humanity can contribute to new fascinating biological solutions. --- Subject engineers and what they are ---- The engineers are struggling to survive as a race while raging war between two different sides. But first I need to tell you that the engineers were very similar to us humans, because we were implanted recently in their original image, as on all other planets mankind is on. Their mistake was that they created machines advanced enough to figure out they did not need the engineers and began to develop on their own, much faster than what evolution could. So the engineers conflict stands between the ones that help machines in desperation, they hope to be pardoned if they are useful to the machines. On the other hand, those that hope to still be able to find a solution to the machines hunger for engineers. Mainly by planting life on planets with different conditions, preferably as extreme ones as possible ( as that blue planet with air full of toxic oxygen), they work to find ways to accelerate the evolution and emergence to new forms of life, effective at shut down machines. -------------------------------------------------- --- Here's perhaps what another "earth" would look like: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1375659_10151695602641725_1783563310_n.jpg That thing at the right side of the picture is not what it appears to be, it is an external organ specialized in collecting vibrational data, the organ sits on the body of an "animal", this planet is being ravaged by frequent earthquakes and tremors in both air and in the ground, the predators here, therefore learned to communicate like and move like sounds resembling those of a rock-slide and other noises that come when the ground shakes more or less. The shaking derives from the gravitational force this planet's giant moon pulls on it. It also means that many of the predators you see in the picture above is almost impossible to detect if no expert pointed out where they are, because they resemble their rocky surroundings. The mushrooms in the picture is the prey in the image main food supply. Due to his Moons and his own Gravitational play together they hurl clusters of ice each 55,212 down towards the surface. Ice clusters of ice blend into the atmosphere and creates rain clouds that rains constantly in 55,118 years before they are cleared completely. Therefore slowly filling the huge deep cracks on the planet, over time more and more. Besides those times when a crack reaches all the way into the lava core, then it creates gigantic geysers which can last up to 5 000 years. Humanoids on this planet live under the surface and down in deep caves and tunnel systems, they are like one gigantic ant nest for the planet's outer layers. Their eyes are dark and large, their skin is gray and almost transparent , it fell in Rosswell... They developed relatively early ships who managed to leave the planet , since they were used to living small and crowded and needed to overcome the enormous complexity of this planets predators and nature catastrophes. Their technical rampage began with something that meant about the same as the fire meant to us, it is a construction of a quickly rotating disk of varying size, this becomes hot and melts the most common rocks on the surface, this enabled the humanoid aliens to build their tunnels with ease. The same technology was later exploited with some modification to overcome previously impossible vertical height barriers, and so was the spaceship the next step. Just as we started to smash things together to make fire, and still use fire to boost rockets into space and hit things together as hard as we can to see the universe smallest components. The engineers harvested their home world first as grey aliens first shown to contain the DNA that had promising properties to cultivate further. The Grey Aliens appearance with us was a desperate attempt of them to save their DNA, by mixing it with human people.

mohawk4ever1

OvomorphMember0 XPOct-16-2013 12:03 PMu guys all are forgettin the most important an relevant part of the movie..the beginning were one of them eats something an dies an drops over the waterfall..Why did he have to do that..what was so horrible that he had to give himself..

Stargazer4atime

OvomorphMember0 XPOct-22-2013 11:08 PMI wake up from hyper sleep only to find some vermin from a dead planet had gotten in my ship and spreading germs every where they tread. Then some half-baked automaton tries to engage me in conversation with some half-dead simian descended hominoid. The female is interesting, but they keep beating the crap out of her. That just pisses me off. I'll bet she'll like to go my planet. But first I need to clean house. Excuse me while I kiss the sky.

Visionary Alpha

OvomorphMember0 XPNov-03-2013 3:22 AMWell, the predators are in the same universe, and they are probably one of the most dominant species.

Visionary Alpha

OvomorphMember0 XPNov-03-2013 3:24 AMI would like to see predators kicking some engineer ass.

stream

OvomorphMember0 XPNov-11-2013 11:20 AM1. David programs the ship back to Earth. 2. Weyland Corporation has now a new CEO: Mrs. Yutani. The company changed its name to Weyland-Yutani. 3. David is fixed by Weyland-Yutani mechanics. 4. Shaw reports the events that took place in LV-223 to Mrs. Yutani and to the Government. 4. Weyland-Yutani scientists investigate the ship and discover the location of the Engineers home planet 5. The Government declares the Engineers an hostile specie and orders a military operation to erase them. 6. The US Colonial Marines are assigned, David goes as a translator and Shaw as an adviser. 7. The Engineers are caught by surprise. An epic fight takes place in the Engineers home planet. 8. In a desperate attempt the Engineers launch a ship full of xenomorph eggs headed to Earth. 9. Shaw and David enter in the ship and sabotage it. 10. Before crashing David transmits a warning signal. 11. The ship crashes in LV-426 12. A few years after the NOSTROMO receives a signal from LV-426.

Tru3 Chaos

OvomorphMember0 XPNov-21-2013 1:36 AMIts all really skeptical because now that they have made it a Universe there is so much they could do. I do believe this is a wonderfully smart move and leaves many avenues open. I imagine many are thinking the continuation of the linkage to Predator. I think they do leave it open somewhat, however because of the fans that it attracts in the sort of Macho movies it will be a while before they go that route if they ever. If they do decide to do it in a way that it attracts the sci-fi lore fans they would have to tone it down and have many new things that make their existance more logical. I personally would like to see the development of the human race and interactions with other races that may develop.

HiveMinded

OvomorphMember0 XPJan-15-2014 4:31 PM

I like what Fassbender said about how the species we've seen so far are just one small part of the universe. It can really go in a lot of directions now. I'm open to it going a lot of different ways. I wanna see more of the Engineer culture in action. But I always wanna know everything there is to know about what the company really knows...And David. The androids and biomechanical ideas interest me the most for some reason. I think they practically run the company after Weyland's "deathS"

Even if by some small chance down the line Predators rejoin the universe i'm semi-open to it -- only if it's done well, set up properly by the new comics etc (although right now I think the new Alien/Predator and Prometheus comics are in different timelines, that's a whole diff story).

One thing I don't want to see: active Aliens on earth. I think going back to earth with the Alien in the movies is bad news bears. There are easily ways to do an earth story that involves Aliens, but making the Aliens the main focus on Earth is something i don't wanna see. It'd be ok for me if they were on Earth, had already taken it over, burrowed in hives, and gone dormant, by the time Call and Ripley 8 show up. Or if some Aliens make it there to Earth, or it's implyed they were once there etc...the point is I don't want to see a movie that's ALL about the Alien being on earth where it becomes way too much like AVP: Requiem. They covered a lot of that terriotory pretty poorly, but they also showed it's something that can easily just lead to a slaughter of characters in some town we don't care about.

The original AVP comics actually got a lot of stuff right in my opinion. I hope the new comics take some small hints from them, because there are actually some things in even the old ALien comics that mesh pretty well still with Prometheus.

BUt definitely keep Preds out of the movie universe for a while after the re-launch of the comics. What worries me is that new comics have been referred to as one big story, and i hope Prometheus only influences them/doesn't tie into them just yet.

One character from the Alien/Predator comics I loved was Caryn Delacroix, who starts out as a genetically engineered trophy wife.

I have some suspicions that Miss Vickers is not what we think, she's not a robot, but Chance and Ravel might have seen other genetically engineered trophy wifes, and thought that was what Miss Vickers was when they wanted to trade their credits in for a lapdance. Janek thought she wasn't real, but she's Weyland's genetically engineered trophy daughter, and David is the closest thing to a real child to Weyland. Closer in how the thinks etc. David and Weyland both like the "trick" from Lawrence of Arabia.

 

renren

OvomorphMember0 XPJan-15-2014 6:58 PM

Does anyone think the engineers were going to earth to destroy man because we killed Jesus? The decapitated engineer had been dead 2000 years which put the time at around the death of Christ...

Thoughts? 

draekus

OvomorphMember0 XPJan-16-2014 3:35 PM

There are alot of religious references in Prometheus, this is just one of them. Ridley mentioned during an interview that the original script specically indicated that the engineers  wanted to kill humanity as a reaction to Jesus's death. The exact dialogue was cut out because it was too "on-the-nose", and instead the reason was only aluded to. (As you pointed out, the extermination of earth was to occur approx 2000 years ago. )

As it stands, its one of those up-in-the-air references made in the movie that can mean anything. Each viewer can make his/her own assumption as to the reason why the engineers wanted to destroy us. (Pretty much the same situation as the famous "tail between Lamberts Legs" scene from ALIEN... - Did the alien rape and kill Lambert or just plain kill her? - Its left up to the viewer to decide.)

Xenotaris

PraetorianMember3292 XPJan-23-2014 8:12 AM

The beauty of Prometheus was to erase the Predators from Alien canon, because Predator is a seperate movie series. It would be like adding Godzilla to the Alien canon, both movies have aliens in them (not godzilla himself but every other godzilla movie has aliens enslaving him), both movies effect humans, both movies have an iconic monster.

Engineers were always human-like even before prometheus, look up giger's alien hierogylph. The space jockey/engineers are depicted in their being impregnated by a xenomorph. The other reason why Engineers look human is because they created us, in the similiar vein as God created man in his own image. Also we barely caught a glimpse of the Engineers technology but it is hinted they created the xenomorphs and the black goo.

ALIEN VERSUS PREDATOR UNIVERSE

Msgoth

OvomorphMember0 XPMar-09-2014 7:12 PM

The one thing I found interesting that some may have over looked is the Engineers reaction when it first came out of stasis. It seemd quiet until Shaw began showing emotion and asking questions and than being mistreated by the others of her species. He seemd to almost feel her pain as she was asking him "why? what did we do?". He seemed to feel compassionate until the other guy from her own crew punched her in the stomach. Than when David started talking to him in his own lanuage and when he realised that he wasnt human and seem to react like humans should not have that ability to create androids and shouldnt have evolved to that level of intelligence. He tried to destroy David and kill th erest..but he didnt go after Shaw until after the ship crashed.

 

hyperyne_1

OvomorphMember0 XPMar-09-2014 8:47 PM

The important thing is that Shaw knows why the Engineer got angry and david did Not.

 

the sequel has to start on that understanding so we can apply that concept on a bigger scale.

 

what makes you think she escaped at the end of the movie?  we don't know.

 

when exactly does the company get information about the mission ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BigDave

DeaconMember10324 XPMar-10-2014 7:38 AM

Well thats correct if we see the Whole Deleted Scenes we get a different picture to the Engineer than what the cut we saw gave us, the sad thing is Ridley is going the route to having the Engineer being just   Aggressive SOB whos only interest was destruction of Mankind like his fallen brothers, and is being portrayed as simply following Orders as you would expect David 8 to.  And maybe the removal of the Elder scenes is so they can redesign the Elders and i think they could be going down the route that our Engineers are merely to the Elders as David 8 is to us.

The full movie inc the scenes we not even saw on the deleted section shows us that for some reason the Mission failed, and why did the Last Engineer survive and it takes you down the path that maybe this Engineer did not agree with the destruction of our species.

If you look at the concept Art his Cryo Stasis Pod is called the HERO CHAMBER why would that be if he simply was lucky to not get effected..... only to then wake up and want to carry on his mission.

The full cut would have shown us this Engineer to be compassionate with mankind and fitted in with the whole Jesus 2000 years ago angle, as that was a way of showing us that for the final time Mankind was doing what the Engineers never wanted and they decided they tried enough to change us but not they left with no choice but to destroy us.

The Last Engineer is surprised to see Humans turn up he is intrigued with us, especially Shaw as maybe they dont have Females no more.

Its only after he sees and can tell that Weyland is the leader of the group and that he only sees his own interests as important and has little care for his fellow crews.  And he got Shaw to be silenced.

Then David tells the Engineers that this arrogant selfish Human is dyeing and wants the Engineers to grant him more life...  At this point the Engineer may tell David is not Human and when he touches David he knows this.

Basically at this point he realises that Mankind as not changed and are a selfish race who care for only themselves, this race has also acted as Gods by creating life in there own image.

And that these Synthetic creations can not only talk their Engineer Language and use their Tech, but also Mankind knows how to get to LV 223 and will no doubt maybe send more and more of its kind and Androids to LV 223.

There simply is no way Mankind and its creation can be allowed to get its hands on the Bio Weapons and Secrets of LV 223  and so the Engineer had no choice but to go to Earth and finish the job, as a race of Humans travelling the Stars is bad enough but one who can use Artificial creations to not only use the Engineers Tech but also thus being able to use their Bio Weapons is simply to dangerous for the safety of the whole Galaxy and what ever other life is out there.

Bottom line Mankind is a unruly, powermonging race who see themselves as having no equal and who now can travel the Stars and thus eventually come across and influence other Worlds in the Galaxy.

It would be just as if the Androids created to serve Mankind started to rebel and saw themselves as greater than Mankind and they would not serve us no more and even try and potentially replace us.

Then Mankind would go about to destroy every single Android they created, to prevent a Terminator situation..... This is all these Engineers are trying to do with us.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

hyperyne_1

OvomorphMember0 XPMar-10-2014 10:13 AM

Interesting infirmation BigDave, i like your point of view.

i would like to say that the android with a hidden agenda story was always interesting, but what if the opposite happened ? what if, for example, a character working for w.y. like andrea bishop or another character would happen to work against w.y.   ?   ...

 

isnt there a battle between weyland and yutani corp ?

 

 

BigDave

DeaconMember10324 XPMar-10-2014 12:34 PM

There is some rivalry for sure, it would appear that Weyland Industries is more geared towards advancements in Genetics, Medicine, Medical Tech, and also Terraforming and it appears its Agenda is to search for new worlds to not only mine for resources but also in the hope of finding life out there.

Yutani seems more geared towards Advances in Electrical Tech and Military so both seem to be competition in a lot of instances but seems Weyland is more geared in Exploration and Medicine and Yutani more Military.

Yutani tried and failed to sue Weyland after Yutani Corporation filed a lawsuit against Weylandover the Patent for the David model, so maybe there was some collaboration in the creation of that model or that Yutani feel Weyland borrowed some of its tech to create the David models we just don’t know at the moment but yes i would think we would see more about the rivalry in the future movies.

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

DeaconMember10324 XPMar-10-2014 12:41 PM

I would assume the Lawsuit would revolve around one of these 2 patents.

 

August 5, 2023 AD

Weyland Corp earns patent number 8,128,899 for Method and Apparatus for cybernetic individuals for use in scientific and industrial environments.

March 26, 2026 AD

Weyland Corp earns patent number 9,158,239 for a chemical composition of classified properties able to almost perfectly replicate the biological features and texture of human skin.

With regards to the Lawsuit ..

December 12, 2029 AD

After years of litigation, Weyland wins the David patent lawsuit against the Japanese start-up Yutani Corporation, effectively protecting the investments of both Weyland Corp and its shareholders.

I would assume maybe its to do with the lifelike skin etc of the Androids that Weyland are making that they have protected so that Yutani can not use the same technology which limits the lifelike apearence of Yutanis own Androids.

And i guess in a Global World potential purchasers of Androids would like them to look as close to Human as possible and such a Lawsuit prevent Yutanis from using the real skin technology that the David models have would mean Yutanis own Androids would look more Synthetic and Rubbery in appearence this would give Weyland a massive advantage in such a market.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

S.Ammons

OvomorphMember0 XPMar-15-2014 3:14 PM

Prometheus: Paradise Fallen.

http://www.writerscafe.org/writing/samuelammons/1328635/

rumsmuggler

OvomorphMember62 XPNov-08-2014 11:22 AM

I wonder if Shaw will make any effort to learn the langauge of the engineers, so she won't be so reliant on an android they may have his own agenda now. I like David, but I would have a hard time placing much trust in him.

BigDave

DeaconMember10324 XPNov-09-2014 11:38 AM

I dont know how they would do that unless David Teaches her but i would assume for most of the journey he would have her in Cryo Sleep...

 

Shaw has to reconnect David in order for her to had escaped LV 223 and we dont know how long the journey would be so its safe to Assume Shaw would be in Cryo Sleep Pods of the Engineers.

 

Shaw had to make a conscious decision to put David together and then knowing once she does that and gets into Cryo Sleep then basically she is left to the whims of David.

 

It will be likewise with the Engineers, i think she has just got to trust David to talk and translate to them...

 

Maybe he would teach Shaw some, or maybe while in Cryo sleep somehow connected to whatever means the Engineers put themselves into Cryo Sleep she could somehow learn to speak to them.

 

Maybe the Elders or who ever have a way to connect to Shaw Telepathically.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

rumsmuggler

OvomorphMember62 XPNov-09-2014 10:12 PM

Telepathic communication would be interesting. One way or another they will be able to have a conversion since David is around to act as an interpretor.

BigDave

DeaconMember10324 XPNov-10-2014 4:31 PM

I think that would be the basic principle as i had said with Shaw left no choice but to be in Davids hands unless she either learns some Engineer via Cryo Sleep or if they are Telepathic.

Otherwise Shaw has to put he faith in what David says on her behalf and also in how he translates the Engineers Messages...

There is nothing stoping David making it up or even stretching the truth a bit.

If Shaw does not know Engineer Lanquage she simply has to take what David says is true.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

jkhollywood

OvomorphMember0 XPDec-21-2014 11:03 PM

I think it is obvious that in this movie, the Engineers created humans on Earth for the purpose of incubating zenomorphs.  The base found on LV 223 was a bio weapon factory designed to develop the weapons to incubate zenomorphs in human hosts.   The alien ships on LV 223 were actually bombers.   The "vases" in the development area of the base were spaced out like we store nuclear warheads, well apart so that they don't interact with one another.   The vases in the "cargo hold" on the ship looked like they were arranged in bomb racks, for dropping on earth.  I'm not sure why the writers didn't make this clear as the visiting human crew began to figure things out.   In the end, the main character indicated she wanted to take an Engineers' ship to the home planet of the Engineers, not Earth.   I would expect in the sequal she will find out that the Engineers are hostile, and she will use the ship for it's intended purpose and bomb the Engineers' planet with their own bio weapon load.  Somehow one of these vases will make it back to Earth (presumably from a rescue ship sent to find out what happened to the original Promethius ship).   All of these speculations are probably a little too simple and linear for Ridley to put into a movie, so I expect some mind bending turns for the sequels that I hadn't predicted.  For instance, I expect see Ridley to bring back the space marines concept from "Aliens".    j1

 

Charza

OvomorphMember18 XPApr-16-2016 2:26 PM

Although I feel that Prometheus could, and should have been a much better movie, I also feel that at times it truly shines. Some scenes are incredible, and really add to the world building that has been part of this "Alien" universe. It is a real shame that within this one movie, the quality of the writing alternates from solid and good, to absolutely abysmal. The movie suffered because of the unrealistic plot contrivances and illogical events, and even though the artwork, and cinematography were absolutely top notch, the movie just fell flat in many other areas. 

So basically all I want right now, is a coherent movie script in which the characters are behaving like real people, and the situations are handled with care for realism.

 

Chris

EngineerAdmin20954 XPNov-13-2016 4:43 PM

Curious to see how people's expectations change after seeing the trailer...

d.r.barbarook

OvomorphMember11 XPDec-01-2016 1:09 PM

I would love to know more about the Engineers - origin, culture, their faith perhaps. So far, i`ve stumbled upon many speculations and little threads that lead to everywhere and nowhere at the same time. I, personally, do not believe that David translated his conversation with the last engineer correctly ( judging by the engineer`s tone and posture, his face ... ) .. the things is that i expect more from Covenant. I would expect experiments , horrid experiments on humans( Shaw maybe) and Engineers. And why not find out why they wanted to wipe us out ! 

Btw, i have recently found a test shooting from Prometheus - with different David and different ending ( which gives clues to Paradise and different interpretation of the Engineer`s speach). Here`s the video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tu5Mwq_L2A  

Shasta cyclone

FacehuggerMember281 XPDec-01-2016 3:24 PM

Thank God that guy was not used to play David.  Lol

 

this may have been brought up in others threads but I find it interesting that through the movie Prometheus it seemed that David formed a conscious and the will to survive and bargain. Which makes me wonder if he's more than just a robot 

and also his desire to meddle with human life.

 

and as far as paradises..... it could mean a totally different thing to the engineers than it does to humans

JPCerato

OvomorphMember30 XPApr-24-2017 3:26 AM

I've never had an exact idea/dream for and Alien/Prometheus film. I just hope we get a true horror/thriller film with good: acting, build up, CGI/practical effects, cinematography and music. I think these are key (not that anyone disagrees) and I think that's what we'll get with Alien Covenant. 

Lt. Steve

OvomorphMember11 XPMay-02-2017 1:13 PM

Alien Universe Theory

The Engineers worship the Xenomorph, the Xenomorph is a form of god to the engineers. They serve the Xenomorph and Xenomorph is actually the more intelligent of the two.  As depicted in the shrine room, the alter and mural.  The mural was a Xenomorph. The alter was the first step in the engineers sacrifice to create life as depicted in the beginning of Prometheus.

The engineers are part of a Xenomorph life cycle, the slaves to the Xenomorph gods. They travel the universe and create homeworlds, life as they did on earth.  They visit these worlds and leave behind clues to their existence.  When life on that planet evolves enough to sacrifice them, they visit with the Black Goo and destroy the planets cities making it a Xenomorph transforming home world.  The population of humans not destroyed are used as host (via) the egg cargo their ship also carries, making more Xenomorphs to populate the host planet.

The Black goo is Xenomorph sperm, they need it to create life and in turn destroy life. When consumed by the engineer, it will create the basic fabric of evolutionary life. But when exposed to living creatures it creates mutation and death.

Once a Xenomorph host planet is created in the ashes of a human planet, they follow the Xenomorph life cycle of a queen, egg, face hugger and then a host to create a birther Xenomorph.

Perhaps the origin of the Xenomorph is that the engineers created them, they turned on them and became the slave. Much like the engineers turned on us, thou we see them as our god, or how David turns on humans…his creator. But for the sake of the movies, the Xenomorph is the gods (or devil).  The Engineers are the Slaves (or angels) and the humans are the sheep (sacrifice) used to create more gods.

TizerisT

OvomorphMember11 XPMay-04-2017 12:15 AM

d.r.barbarook, that video is down. Fox pulled it. I would like to see who was playing David, as I can't stand his character lol.

Can you elaborate on what was contained in the video? Thanks!

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