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Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJul-25-2012 9:33 AM![](http://splinteredsunrise.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/tom-father-ted.jpg)
Engineer Tech Brett
MemberOvomorphNov-21-2013 7:59 AMViddy well, little brother. Viddy well.
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Xenotaris
MemberPraetorianNov-26-2013 2:55 AM![](http://www.scified.com/images/defaultavatar.png)
S.M
MemberXenomorphSep-25-2016 7:50 PMState of the canon:
Prometheus
Covenant
Alien
Alien Isolation
Defiance
Out Of The Shadows
Aliens
River of Pain
Fire & Stone (Aliens)
Alien3
Fire & Stone (Prometheus, AvP, Predator, Omega)
Life & Death
Alien Resurrection
Weyland-Yutani Report
Sea of Sorrows
The Rage War
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Gavin
MemberTrilobiteSep-26-2016 2:17 AM@ S.M.
Surely if, as you state, Fire and Stone are canon to the Alien universe then by extension so too would be the three Predator movies and the two AVP movies, seeing as they too feature the Predator creature. But didn't Ridley retcon AVP's Charles Bishop Weyland out of the continuity with having Peter Weyland found Weyland Industries. Thus anything that attempts to include Predators in the same universe would not be canon, yes?
The fact that the comic books have to be retconned every time a new movie comes out would surely negate their inclusion as canon.
If the W-Y report is considered canon why not is the Colonial Marines Technical Manual.
Surely when it comes down to the bare bones of it all the only true canon is just the movies - Prometheus, Alien Covenant, Alien, Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection?
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Patient Leech
MemberFacehuggerSep-26-2016 9:02 AMOriginally posted by genjitsu17:
...I dunno, just seems stupid to also have 2 simultaneous ancient alien stories going on. Having the Engineers and the Predators both visiting humans would have caused some trouble, i think. Just my opinion.
This. That's pretty much what I thought when I rewatched AVP a couple months ago. I think that's enough to establish AVP as non-canon.
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S.M
MemberXenomorphSep-26-2016 9:38 PM"Surely if, as you state, Fire and Stone are canon to the Alien universe then by extension so too would be the three Predator movies and the two AVP movies, seeing as they too feature the Predator creature. But didn't Ridley retcon AVP's Charles Bishop Weyland out of the continuity with having Peter Weyland found Weyland Industries. Thus anything that attempts to include Predators in the same universe would not be canon, yes?"
Not sure of the canonicity of the AvP films (and Predator) at this point.
"The fact that the comic books have to be retconned every time a new movie comes out would surely negate their inclusion as canon."
The current comics and novels have tried as much as possible not to tread on things covered by Covenant, so as to not create a situation where they'll need to be retconned. That said, things touted as canon can always be untouted (like Colonial Marines).
"If the W-Y report is considered canon why not is the Colonial Marines Technical Manual."
Not sure. Possibly because a lot of the events detailed in the final chapter are apocryphal. Most of the technical data in the CMTM remains canon however.
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oliver.alien
MemberOvomorphJan-16-2017 1:58 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Y_Tjohrfo&t=59s
Good video! I recommend! Top 10 Alien Movie moments!
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LongLiveNewt
MemberOvomorphMar-18-2017 7:07 AMThe only films I personally consider canon are: Prometheus-Covenant-Alien-Aliens, the rest are stand-alone fanfic efforts as far as I'm concerned, especially all the garbage Predator/AvP tie in stuff (though the comics aren't bad).
In place of all that, I consider the first Dark Horse Aliens series/Steve Perry's "Earth Hive", "Nightmare Asylum" and "Female War" to be the true conclusion of the Ripley/Newt (Billie)/Hix (Wilks) story, because they are actually really good - unlike the abominations that are Alien 3 & 4.
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IndyFront
MemberFacehuggerJun-21-2017 2:19 PM@Long-Live-newt: Agreed. I chalk it up to closely-guarded W-Y/state secrets involving controversial experimentation involving MK-Ultra-esq technology (but on steroids).
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mnnnn
MemberOvomorphJul-30-2018 12:20 AMI wonder what Paul Anderson say about Prometheus?
since I know there is a way could play blue ray on PC, I just want to have a try.
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leibek
MemberOvomorphNov-28-2022 5:12 PMprometheus is a important movie .he tell us about the origins of the aliens franchise.thus engineers who become evil and threaten humanity .we have to be aware from alien civilisations that want to make a contact with us... they are not all a friendly..