brightonrockOvomorphMember0 XPJul-02-2012 6:13 PM
Nice article, but I can't help but feel a lot of it is fuelled by personal gripes than objective issues?
Sure, Prometheus certainly has NO plausible scientific characters in it (not ONE iota of dialogue or action is offered to make the audience believe that these people [i]are[/i] who they say they are). But taking issue with the black goo?! Please! It's a science-fiction movie. And I like to believe that Sci-Fi means 'Anything can happen'.
The opening scene ain't 'dreck'. In fact; it's one of the strongest scenes in the movie.
.OvomorphMember0 XPJul-02-2012 6:18 PM
I felt the same way about the article, but it did bring to light the issue of Hollywood thinking we're just their to warm their seats and hand over our money. It is true Hollywood has to work with the lowest common denominator, but sometimes it is insulting...
brightonrockOvomorphMember0 XPJul-02-2012 6:25 PM
Yeah you're very right.
Sunshine was a movie I felt that tried to pay respect to scientific canon. In fact on the DVD there's a commentary with Professor Brian Cox about all the scientific details of the film.
AND the film is amazing too.
AND no one went to see it.
f*****g general public :)
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David 1OvomorphMember0 XPJul-02-2012 6:30 PM
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brightonrockOvomorphMember0 XPJul-02-2012 6:37 PM
I suppose this all relates back to the debate on one thread about how Prometheus is potentially an 'Anti-Science' movie - the scientists bite the dust first, the believer survives, etc. Do you take this stance?
Does anyone else here feel this is the case?
brightonrockOvomorphMember0 XPJul-02-2012 6:44 PM
'[i]I can't tell you if it's man-made, but I can tell you...it's hollow...[b]*[/b]so if we follow that back logically then I can infer that - because it's hollow - it is man-made. So to answer your question: yep, it's man-made[/i]'
*author's poetic licence
brightonrockOvomorphMember0 XPJul-02-2012 7:06 PM
Didn't even think about that.
The fact there's four domes in a row might be a giveaway too.
But yeah, if there's a prize...the Skull takes it.
shambsOvomorphMember40 XPJul-02-2012 7:13 PM
Well the ancient astronauts and Chariot of the Gods are definitely pseudoscience...but still interesting for a science fiction story.
shambsOvomorphMember40 XPJul-02-2012 7:27 PM
On the other hand any space agency or private company finances the trip so expensive based on hunches and a cave painting...In addition of course: a fantastically easy landing, to removing the helmet, reject what might be the greatest discovery of the human race, smoke weed in a pyramid on another planet, play with a strange creature and a total etc...Do not get me wrong, I know it's just a movie and I actually like but at the same time we must recognize certain inconsistencies which are undeniable.
Hadley's HopeOvomorphMember0 XPJul-02-2012 7:45 PM
[u]On the other hand any space agency or private company finances the trip so expensive based on hunches and a cave painting...
Peter Weyland's trip, not a company mission. He's dying, he'll reach for a hunch. And it was a bunch of cave paintings which is something, but Shaw made a lot more of it than logic would allow, (esp as she didn't see the opening of the movie!).
[u]In addition of course: a fantastically easy landing,[/u]
What's so hard about "find a landmark, circle it, put down on flat terrain" ?
It's probably how the Engineers picked the site in the first place. A secret bunker won't have a locator beacon, so "turn west after the big mountain and look for a U shaped valley" would do fine for navigation.
If you want to find a major fault with the landing it is this.... they see a valley with 5 domes, and they just go land in front of the nearest one.
A smarter captain (especially if he's supposed to be ex-military as some people think Janek is - perhaps because he's black like Apone?) would do a careful circle around those domes to check out for surprises before he puts the ship in the most vulnerable spot.
[u]to removing the helmet,[/u]
Done by a reckless fool, so not much of a plot hole, just a reflection of his character and the weak minded fools who copy him.
[u] reject what might be the greatest discovery of the human race,[/u]
The two skeptics who don't feel safe with Shaw and Holloway after seeing 'ghosts' and a decapitated giant 327 trillion kilometres from home? I think many people would decide not to follow Shaw and Holloway into that room after that. Me included, but I doubt I would have got lost on the way out.
[u] smoke weed in a pyramid on another planet, play with a strange creature and a total etc...
I don't blame him for freaking out. And Milburn may also be stoned.
Do not get me wrong, I know it's just a movie and I actually like but at the same time we must recognize certain inconsistencies which are undeniable.[/u]
There are undeniable flaws, but not so many inconsistencies as one might think.
**Al**OvomorphMember0 XPJul-02-2012 9:28 PM
Geez some writers are like people...Anything to make a chat.
has the perfect Word besides... FICTION
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shambsOvomorphMember40 XPJul-03-2012 8:51 AM
-I think it is unlikely that a tycoon invests its resources in a project that is not supported by a complete and exhaustive study. In this case threatens the reputation and a considerable amount of money.
-Well, the fact is that the climate of "LV-223" is hostile and his crew removed the belts when they want. Ok I know it is not as serious, but it is an unrealistic detail and also unprofessional. But if the ship Prometheus is a powerful and advanced technologically speaking, and it is easy to note that Janek is an experienced captain.
-Yes, Dr. Holloway was the first to take off his helmet, but then the rest of his teammates also did. Well, my problem with this is that (despite the terraforming) I think a more serious protocol would preserve the helmet precaution to pathogens of the strange environment like in the war of the worlds.
Another good example would be the opposite, imagining a hypothetical situation in which a crew of astronauts lands in Europe, and then contaminate the environment and to take samples of the ice they are...but sadly microorganisms are invading Earth who traveled to Europe thanks to the mankind :p
-I recognize that being in a situation like that of Prometheus must have balls. But it is still "THE MOST IMPORTANT DISCOVERIES IN THE HISTORY OF MAN" and that is why true Weyland had to hire scientists to the mission (and stable psychological level)
-LOL I have nothing personal against the weed or against the consumers but this
is definitely an action totally unprofessional IMO XDD