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Gimm-e
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 9:08 AMFor grown-up peeps only
I tried to post this earlier, but it didn’t stick…
The alien has a head that resembles a ph*llus, right? It’s the “ph*llus with malice” as I’ve read somewhere.
Now, in Prometheus we have the squid who has a mouth that looks like…dare I say it, [b]a toothed vagina.[/b]
Obviously, Ive never seen one…duh…but I can imagine and I can’t help thinking if this was done on purpose or not. Like someone said: “ Oh, we’ve already seen so much references to the male reproductive tract, it’s time for some female ones.”
Deliberate or by accident? That is the question.
You don\\\'t see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage!
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Sky
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 9:13 AMI guess deliberate. but that's just me.
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Gimm-e
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 9:18 AMDoes anyone have a pic?
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RSAND
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 9:19 AMAll of Giger's Alien work was sexual in nature. It's quite overt. Not under-toned at all so yes, I would say it is deliberate.
shambs
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 9:31 AM[img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/p13010.jpg[/img]
Gimm-e
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 9:37 AMLOL
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David 1
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 10:54 AMTeeth and Vaginas never go well together.
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Crabfart
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 10:11 AMYes all of giegers works is mega sexually driven - the 'alien' facehugger is very viginal in design - kinda like a flattened out one! - the alien head more penis like!
shambs
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 10:55 AMThis is the kiss at the end of the dance
[img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/trilobite_defeating_engineer.jpg[/img]
shambs
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 10:55 AM[img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/hugger.gif[/img]
Gimm-e
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 10:58 AMfinally, thx Shambala.
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allinamberclad
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 10:58 AMI'd say it was notionally deliberate - in terms of being heavily, yet indirectly, suggestive.
I'd also say that, somehow, that kind of nudging only makes it seem extremely obvious and ham-fisted.
Seems to me, Alien/Giger managed to communicate and force you to acknowledge a sense of nausea that you perhaps couldn't really put a name to - and perhaps didn't really want to: it was just obviously something that spoke to your subconscious and was clearly to do with mucus; and wetness; and reproduction; and penetration........and all of that particular kind of nameless dread was achieved without resorting to showing you a toothy vagina on top of a penis.
I'd suggest that's exactly why it [i]was[/i] achieved.
Custodian
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 11:29 AMshambhala, man, that kicks face!
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Rubirosa
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 11:42 AM There has always been a heavy sexual tone surrounding the Alien movies. I am referring to the first two films. Even in Alien I still remember when Lambert was cornered by the Xenemorph. She was crying her ass out as we saw the Xenos tail began to rise up between her legs. Now if that ain't sexual. Then I don't know what is.
Gimm-e
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 11:47 AM@ Rubirosa
exactly, the alien movies have a sexual tone surrounding them, hence my question: did they make this descision on purpose, or is it just sth we fans notice and the director of photography or whoever is going all like :'whut?'
You don\\\'t see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage!
shambs
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 12:02 PMWell, the vagina mouth of the Hammerpede is more similar to the mouth of a facehugger but this other creature (aka cuddles) well is something different...I think that Giger design the mural and decors of the pyramid but the creatures were designed by Carlos Huante or someone else...
PS: But still looking like a V*g*n* Dentata anyway LOL
shambs
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 12:04 PMand in the designs of Dan O'Bannon for Star beast...the facehugger was more like a cephalopod...
[img]http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/starparadise86/facehugger.jpg[/img]
Sky
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 12:11 PMstarbeast? that movie ever released ?
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shambs
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 12:15 PM"Star beast" is the original name of the 1979 project but thanks to Ridley and Giger (fortunately) the final version was Alien.
shambs
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 12:22 PM@Sky look at the prototype script for Alien in the spartacus [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/3865]Thread[/url]
shambs
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 12:23 PMand another from [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/4585]Sparty[/url]
sukkal
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 12:27 PM
The xeno drool in [i]Alien[/i] is [url=https://www.k-y.com/K-Y_Jelly]KY[/url]. I think the references are pretty overt across the board.
Sky
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 12:29 PMAh, thanks for the pointers.
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Gimm-e
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 3:19 PMSomeone had to bring it up.
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donb
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 10:09 PMThe Cinefex article on Prometheus has a quote from Conor O'Sullivan ... talking about how people have tried to copy Giger, but "missed the subtlety and detail, and the morbid fasciantion with death, aliens, and sex. We tried to go back to that"
He goes on to say their influences were also Rodin and William Blake (and folks on this message board have posted about the Blake-ness of the film!)
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/William_Blake
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rodin
Sky
MemberOvomorphJul-01-2012 4:19 AMFrom the image posted by shambala, isn't it odd for such cobra style creature to stand there by bending? I found it that way.
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