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Trilobite in Cthulu Mythos

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Cry Havoc

MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 1:27 AM
From H.P. Lovecraft's Cthulu Mythos Quote: [i][b]Mother of Pus[/b] A Lesser Outer God composed of slime, tentacles, eyes, and mouths. The Mother of Pus was spawned through an obscene mating between a human and Shub-Niggurath.[/i] Sounds more like the Trilobite than anything else I've found. The Shoggoth only had eyes and tentacles and was the size of a subway train (Although I still think calling it 'Cuddles the Huggoth' is funny as hell). I wonder what other Lovecraftian creatures we'll see in the next movie.
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Chris

AdminEngineerJun-24-2012 1:38 AM
Very interesting find! Thanks for posting this! Do you have some links to more of H.P. Lovecraft's work regarding this? Almost describes the Trilobite completely!
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Chris

AdminEngineerJun-24-2012 1:47 AM
Interestingly enough, after searching briefly for this mythos, I came across [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Call_of_Cthulhu]this Wikipedia article[/url] explaining "The Call of Cthulhu". Have a look at this first excerpt: [i]The story is presented as a manuscript "found among the papers of the late [b]Francis Wayland Thurston[/b], of Boston". In the text, Thurston recounts his discovery of notes left behind by his granduncle, George Gammell Angell, a prominent Professor of Semitic languages at Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, who died suddenly in "the winter of 1926–27" after being "jostled by a nautical-looking negro". The first chapter, The Horror in Clay, concerns a small bas-relief sculpture found among the papers, which the narrator describes: "My somewhat extravagant imagination yielded simultaneous pictures of an octopus, a dragon, and a human caricature.... A pulpy, tentacled head surmounted a grotesque and scaly body with rudimentary wings." The sculpture is the work of Henry Anthony Wilcox, a student at the Rhode Island School of Design who based the work on his delirious dreams of "great Cyclopean cities of titan blocks and sky-flung monoliths, all dripping with green ooze and sinister with latent horror." Wilcox frequently references the terms Cthulhu and R'lyeh, and Angell also discovers reports of "outre mental illnesses and outbreaks of group folly or mania" around the world (in New York City, "hysterical Levantines" mob police; in California, a Theosophist colony dons white robes to await a "glorious fulfillment").[/i] Later on it also goes on to mention ties to the [b]Necronomicon[/b]. Very neat!
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Cry Havoc

MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 1:47 AM
Here's some wikipedia entries. That's where I found it. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos_deities]Cthulhu Mythos deities[/url] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovecraftian_horror]Lovecraftian horror[/url]

Chris

AdminEngineerJun-24-2012 1:57 AM
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Cry Havoc

MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 2:20 AM
It's very evocative reading all of those entries and wondering if just one of them is something that Shaw and David's Head will run into in the next film. As I'm reading them, I keep expecting to see something about the Space Jockey biosuits or the Xenomorph.

Custodian

MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 3:14 AM
[b]VERY Lovecraft[/b], as in Guillermo Del Toro's [url=http://www.movieweb.com/news/prometheus-cancels-out-guillermo-del-toros-at-the-mountains-of-madness]AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS[/url] got cancelled once it was known Prometheus had a theatrical release schedule. Here's the original ASTOUNDING STORIES cover for ATMOM, recognise anything? [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/Lovecraft%2C_Mountains_of_Madness.jpg[/img] Duality, you gotta love it.
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FREEZE!

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 3:36 AM
nice thread, thanks for sharing.
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abordoli

MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 2:58 AM
Interesting stuff. Strange Wayland/weyland link...lol. What is a "nautical negro" and why is it assaulting folk?

Cry Havoc

MemberOvomorphJul-07-2012 5:04 AM
Here's some more from H.P. Lovecraft's Cthulu Mythos that are evocative of the ALIEN/Prometheus universe. [quote][i]Lovecraft's works are ruled by several distinct pantheons of deities (actually aliens who are worshipped by humans as deities) who are either indifferent or actively hostile to humanity. Lovecraft's actual philosophy has been termed "cosmic indifferentism" and this is expressed in his fiction. Several of Lovecraft's stories of the Old Ones (alien beings of the Cthulhu Mythos), propose alternate mythic human origins in contrast to those found in the creation stories of existing religions, expanding on a natural world view.[/i][/quote] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elements_of_the_Cthulhu_Mythos]Elements of the Cthulhu Mythos[/url] [i][u]Beast of Averoigne[/u] A seemingly supernatural being which is recorded as having descended upon the French principality of Averoigne, particularly Vyones and Ximes, from an ominous red comet which appeared in the sky in 1369. It has no true body of its own, but needs to take possession of the body of another to feed, transfiguring and horribly reshaping the host's body. Resulting form is that of a pitch-black semi-humanoid figure, surrounded by a hellish nimbus of changing, fiery light, dimly revealing its shape. The limbs sway and writhe like boneless serpents, and grow sharp, hard claws. The neck similarly extends to a serpentine length and flexibility, whereas the head turns flat and reptilian, earless and noseless.[/i] [i][u]Gn'cht'tyaacht[/u] A tree-dwelling humanoid some seven feet in height, but thin and lanky with a long pointed head, huge claws and sharp teeth.[/i] [i][u]Fosterlings of the Old Ones [/u] The Fosterlings of the Old Ones are the mutant offspring of matings with human females and Outer Gods or Great Old Ones. Through a special ritual the Outer God or Great Old One sends a dream which reaches into the womb of a pregnant woman, altering the genetic structure of the unborn fetus. Born, the child spends many years as a normal human until one day it transforms into something more closely resembling its alien parent.[/i] [i][u]Fungus Vile[/u] A kind of parasitic life form, neither really plant nor animal in nature, able to infect any organism it comes into contact with. It is suspected that this material originated on cold Yuggoth and subsequently spread through the cosmos with the mi-go.[/i] [i][u]Formless spawn of Tsathoggua and Knygathin Zhaum[/u] Appear as gelatinous, shape-shifting, black goo.[/i] [i][u]Antehumans[/u] Slender, tall, gaunt proto-humans of great intelligence.[/i] [i][u]Hyperboreans[/u] A race of early pre-humans.[/i] [i][u]S'glhuo, Denizens of[/u] Tall, bluish humanoids with blank eyes and boneless fingers; actually entities made of living sound.[/i] [i][u]The Worm That Walks[/u] A loathsome being, looking like a human corpse decayed into tones ofgreen, black, and blue, witk dripping pieces offlesh hanging from it. Prodigious claws or talons dangle from this apparition's fingers, and from the undead monster's eye sockets stare lidless, ban, eyeballs.[/i]

Juggernaut94

MemberOvomorphJul-07-2012 7:06 PM
[quote]A loathsome being, looking like a human corpse decayed into tones of green, black, and blue, with dripping pieces of flesh hanging from it. Prodigious claws or talons dangle from this apparition's fingers, and from the undead monster's eye sockets stare lidless, ban, eyeballs.[/quote]Sounds kind of like Fifield's unused form. [img]http://cdn.chud.com/4/44/44852290_1340148988581.jpeg[/img] [img]http://www.weylandchronicles.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/ac_02.jpg[/img]

shambs

MemberOvomorphJul-07-2012 7:42 PM
Dr Shaw sterile? my ass, Mr Cthulu is the real father of Cuddles ... poor poor little Holloway :p

shambs

MemberOvomorphJul-07-2012 7:51 PM
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn...

Ripley McPreviouscharacter

MemberOvomorphJul-07-2012 11:53 PM
Um... no. Just no. The Mother of Pus is exactly what it says: a puddle of bodily fluid that acts and looks like a Shoggoth, but is actually the child of Shub-Niggurath through a human. Further more, it's an Outer God, so it's unique. It might have pseudopods, but if all you need to look like the trilobite is pseudopods, then I could list 100 things that are the secret identity of the trilobite. Also, it's from the rpg, Lovecraft has absolutely nothing to do with it. Also, the "Cthulhu Mythos" is an institutionalized and canonized form of Yog-Sothery which is exclusionary and, let's face it, poorly conceived. It's basically a more advanced version of the Derleth Mythos, only with a bigger ego. None of the Alien stuff is part of the "Cthulhu Mythos." It IS, however, pretty obviously part of Yog-Sothery. Remember the original spark for the Xenomorph design came from Giger's Necronomicon. If you're interested in HPL's stuff be sure to actually read it. You'll find his contribution to this thread, other than Mountains of Madness, is jack and shit and jack left town. As a matter of fact, pretty much everything Cry Havoc mentioned is from Clark Ashton Smith's work. Although, if "nautical negro" turns you off it's best to stop there. Lovecraft has a bad habit of bringing his stories to a screeching halt to go on a frenzied racist rant about the "savage yellow people." Nothing kills the mood of a good spooky space monster story like rabid xenophobia. :/

Cry Havoc

MemberOvomorphJul-09-2012 3:12 AM
The Necronomicon is part of the Cthulu Mythos according to several sources. [url=http://www.sacred-texts.com/nec/index.htm]Necronomicon[/url] Lovecraft approved of both August Derleth's and Clark Ashton Smith's writings that added to his work. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necronomicon]Necronomicon wiki page[/url] Clark Ashton Smith didn't have anything to do with the RPG. He died in 1961 and the RPG game wasn't created until 1981.
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