Notice the Hammerpede and Deacon facing each other in the construction of the En
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Karstenphd
MemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 12:07 AMI'm just saying. Look at the talk prometheus still photo of the ship rolling and tell me you don't see it. Maybe someone with skills can paste the photo.
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Karstenphd
MemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 12:32 AM Giger is all about Bio mechanical. When I first saw the Derelect craft in Alien the design blew me away, because it made no sense aerodynamic wise. I was wondering "wow, why have a spaceship designed with a hammer?"
Enter two main alien creatures featured in Prometheus, the Hammerpede and the Deacon.
Maybe even the ship represents life cycles.
Now I am wondering if the ship with it's female genatalia openings like the original egg design in Giger concept art and these familiar looking appendages have anything to do with the original way the ship was grown, or organic. Maybe the Engineeers craft even symbolize what it produces, as in all the murals, giant heads, and skull on top of the Temple-laboratory.
The photo is in talk prometheus to the left of everything alien above our post.
private problem
MemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 1:31 AMi thought there were elements of both creatures in each arm of the ship. its a design thing :)
QubedAtom111
MemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 1:59 AMIt seems as though the ship has more then one level of semiotic.
Custodian
MemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 2:04 AMOh, come on, people.
Just below the P R O M E T H E U S banner on every page of this site, there's a background image in the TALK PROMETHEUS box - this is quite a good find ~phd.
:)
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galacticnorth
MemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 4:44 AMGreat find!
SO obvious once you see it. Of course one of the ends of the original 'derelict' was designed with the dome head of the alien...but in this version of the ship it does look more like the deacon...much sharper. I hadnt noticed the 'hammerpede' at the other end but there it is. Wonderful.
Lone
MemberPraetorianJun-17-2012 8:57 AM[url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/gallery/view/img/212][img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/prometheusO_screencap29.jpg[/img][/url]
You are so RIGHT! Well spotted, now I'm off to check out some pics of the derelict from A L I E N.............
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
Lone
MemberPraetorianJun-17-2012 9:17 AMThat is just so cool!!!!!!!!!
One end of the 'derelict' has the domed head as galacticnorth said, can't see the inner surface of the other side though...damn
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
Lone
MemberPraetorianJun-17-2012 10:39 AM**FACEPALM**
this thread was merely a ruse to send me off on a hopeless quest to find a facehugger/derelict pic.......you evil Karstenphd you!!!! lol
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
Karstenphd
MemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 9:34 PM OK, maybe I'm Roarsching, but anythings possible. Maybe it's abstract Engineer architechture, pareidolia, semiotic, Christ in a Pretzel...Elephants in clouds, or a ruse to send The Lone Gunwoman(TM) on a hopeless quest, but as Manfred Mann said "Mamma allways told me not to look into the eye's of the sun, but momma, that's where the fun is, as sang in Blinded by the light.
The photo made me think.
alxn
MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 9:48 PMwow that is very cool!
what if the derelict ship formed in a circle is supposed to represent the cycle of life? since it looks like the hammerpede and the deacon maybe it is referencing the alien goo life cycle...also it is rolling in a circular motion at the end. Is that reading too far into it? I hope that made sense
episodenone
MemberOvomorphJun-25-2012 1:38 PMwow -- people see jesus in pieces of toast also. just because you can imagine it doesnt make it so.
Karstenphd
MemberOvomorphJul-14-2012 4:49 PMAnd thank God people like Giger, Ridley, P.K. Dick etal see dreams in electric sheep!
tankgirl
Social LiasonMemberOvomorphJul-14-2012 9:40 PMthought you guys might find this interesting
it includes a lot of snippets of Giger talking about how he designed the original derelict and why it went through some changes
[url=http://alienexplorations.blogspot.co.nz/2010/03/design-of-derelict-gigers-work.html]Gigers original derelict design[/url]
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rabernathi
MemberOvomorphJul-14-2012 10:54 PMReally cool¡¡¡ amazed, ill keep searchign more things like this
sukkal
MemberOvomorphJul-14-2012 11:20 PM
This is very funny!
I always loves me some good pareidolia.
Fabulous find!
Lone
MemberPraetorianJul-15-2012 8:34 AM@tankgirl, thanks for that brilliant link! :-)
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
Indy John
MemberOvomorphJul-15-2012 8:50 AMJust how practical is this ship's design? I mean a ring shaped vessel..must be a nightmare for the crew to work on.
Maybe that is the answer,,The Engineers were not thinking beings,,androids going through robotic motions,,never really thinking,,just doing what is programmed in their DNA..execute the next program.
Be choicelessly aware as you move through life
zzplural
MemberOvomorphJul-15-2012 11:14 AM@Indy John:
[i]"Just how practical is this ship's design? I mean a ring shaped vessel..must be a nightmare for the crew to work on."[/i]
Aerodynamically, it's pants. So we can rule out this as being any kind of issue: it must have a force bubble that whips air out of the way when it's in flight.
As to why it is the shape that it is, it's an enduring mystery. Engineers don't have to play by our rules. They're clearly into symbolism in a big way (murals, temples, carvings, ships...) and that seems to take precedent over comfort.
Their technology (and Giger's design!) is awesome. Maybe they grew the ship using some kind of biotech. It certainly looks like some kind of organic form. You have to be careful using words like these, though, since they are a super-advanced species. Extrapolating the kind of technology that we know about may not be at all appropriate for such a civilization.
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Indy John
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 8:07 AM"...They're clearly into symbolism in a big way (murals, temples, carvings, ships...)
Maybe this the 'artistic' side of Engineerrs' personality Something that makes a statement to other species they discovered around their Universe...
It seems to me that the missing part of the ring was intentional..and 'Circle of Life' thinking is OK ..for now..
Be choicelessly aware as you move through life
brego
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 11:21 PMYup, there's something in that I think. Also has anyone else thought this looks familiar?
Cant find a pic online but on my Queen Alien collectible from Aliens, if you look at the spines on her back they look remarkably similar....
[url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/gallery/view/img/267]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/gallery/view/img/267[/url]
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