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Dan O' Bannons original alien concept... looking familiar?

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MVMNT

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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/dSD75.jpg[/IMG] and this is one of RS's originally story-boarded aliens, a lot more tendril/tentacle laden [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/VRBDz.jpg[/IMG] Ron Cobb's also offers another unique slant: [IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_oLPxM7_4Cf0/TH9--3sK7EI/AAAAAAAAAlQ/Gv--csGorlQ/s1600/340x_alien_designs__ron_cobb__48.jpg[/IMG]

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Gavin
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I'm not being confrontational here, but it seems to me that Xenotron is a Brandywine whore... Here is Brandywine Productions history regards the Alien... [u]1979, Alien[/u] Dan O,Bannon, with some assistance from his friend Ronald Shussett wrote a screenplay for a film. Originally it was called Starbeast, but Dan soon changed the name to Alien. Having done the ultimate spoof of the sci-fi B movie with Dark Star, Dan wrote Alien to be a dark, creepy, scary B movie done as an A movie. They first approached Roger Corman (I believe that is his name) knowing he would make the film, but Dan was reluctant, knowing Corman would just release it as another B movie. They then approached Gordon Carroll with the script. Carroll loved it and saw the direction Dan wanted to take and knew with the right backing that the film could be a success. At the time Carroll was starting a production company with two colleagues, David Giler and Walter Hill. Upon reading the script for Alien Giler decided to rewrite it, claiming he was unhappy with the story. The truth was that with enough rewritten content the script would be Gilers property, thus ensuring Dan would not get paid for his script, maximising Giler, and Brandywines profits from the film. After extensive rewrites Giler submitted his revised script once Ridley Scott had become involved. Scott preferred the original script over Gilers rewrite, but did like the (overused at the time) corporate conspiracy element of Gilers version. Giler, reluctantly rewrote the script yet again, re-incorporating most of Dan's original ideas. During filming Brandywine constantly interferred, it was them that originally said no to the Jockey set, it was them that refused Dan admittance to the set, despite that Scott had granted Dan admittance. Furthermore as previously said in another thread, it was Dan who suggested Giger and Cobb, and Dan designed the Facehugger. Cobb suggested Foss and Scott suggested Mobius. [u]1986, Aliens[/u] Keen to captilise on the growing success of Alien Brandywine pondered the idea of a sequel. Before filming the Terminator, James Cameron approached Brandywine, who because of their rewrites on Alien owned the production rights to Alien (whereas Fox own the distribution rights), with a short treatment for an Alien II. Brandywine like the initial idea but suggested Jim do more work on the story. While filming the Terminator production was put on hold when Arnold Schwarzenegger was recalled to the set of Conan II the Destroyer. Unable to film any scenes with his main star Jim wrote the original draft of the screenplay for Alien II and again approached Brandywine. They liked what they saw and promised Jim he could direct it if the Terminator was a success. It was and so Aliens was made. Both Jim and Sigourney Weaver wished to film in the US at fox studios, but Brandywine refused and Pinewood Studios in the UK was used (as in Alien). Jim was with the lacklustre attitude of the UK crew, the delays in the sets being built and the constant budget cutting that limited his original intentions - the Powerloader was originally meant to be fully operational, the use of rear projection was overused because of unfinished sets. Furthermore, in hindsight Weaver has stated her dissatisfaction with the route her character took in Aliens, becoming a gun toting heroine. Yes it was Jim's idea, but it was sanctioned by Brandywine. [u]1991, Alien 3[/u] Where to start here. Fox approached Brandywine about another Alien sequel. Brandywine accepted, promising to deliver fox a film for a set release date, despite having no contracts, no script, no crew, no cast and no director (first mistake). Numerous writers and directors were approached and many outlandish ideas were proposed, none to Brandywines satisfaction. Time dragged on with no progress and Fox became edgy, demanding Brandywine hurry up. Forced into a corner Brandywine started production of sets using their latest director (forget his name), before approaching him to refuse his idea of a wooden planet. The director in question felt his vision was being sidelined and left. Brandywine had a set, a cast, a crew but they had no script and no director. They approached David Fincher, asking him to direct and write the script. He accepted, quickly wrote a script and threw together some storyboards and ideas and production began. Immediately, despite the impossible goal ahead of Fincher (directing his first film no less), Brandywine interferred - rewriting Finchers script, limiting production costs, taking shortcuts, giving him a director of photography with alzheimers... the list goes on. Once production was finished and post production began, no sooner has Fincher entered the editing room when Brandywine demanded reshoots of key scenes and key script changes, despite the ever closer release date. Fincher had enough and walked out. The film released in theaters was Brandywines cut, the DVD assembly cut being Fox's interpretation of what the assume was Finchers vision. And yes it was Brandywine that suggested ADI for Alien 3 and all subsequent films featuring the Alien. [u]Alien Resurrection[/u] Things get worse. Joss Whedon, writer and director of the Avengers, wrote a drat screenplay for an Alien sequel in which Newt was cloned. Brandywine despised the idea, but humored Whedon, asking him to work on it. Whedon rewrote it and returned. Brandywine mused over it, showing it to Weaver. She liked it so much she requested another rewrite in which her character was cloned. Whedon reluctantly agreed and rewrote the screenplay yet again. The wheels had started turning. Fox approached french director Jean-Pierre Jeunet to direct Whedons new script with Weaver as the main star and producer. Again the screenplay was rewritten at Jeunet's request, slowly turning the film into a self-parody. Brandywine despite feeling the film was inferior to the originals kept their mouths shut, having been guaranteed a lucrative cut of the profits. [u]2004, AVP[/u] Ever wondered why AVP was PG-13... Yep, Brandywine. After years of being limbo AVP was greenlit after Jon Davis (Davis Group, which owned the production rights to the Predator) approached Brandywine with Paul W S Andersons proposal. But upon learning that Anderson had approached Dan O'Bannon with his ideas, in which Dan suggested a few ideas, Brandywine approached Fox suggesting a lower rating for the film, to maximise profits. Anderson was ordered to cut all offensive content from his screenplay (foul language, gore, terror etc.) but continued regardless, keen to avoid the film entering limbo once again. Brandywine did nothing more and just waited for their pay-slip. [u]2007, AVPR[/u] Fan boys, former ILM employees and SFX gurus the Brothers Strausse approached Fox with a screenplay for a sequel to AVP that featured, in depth, the Pred-Alien. A previous script in which the hybrid was killed off in the first act was abandoned and Fox contacted Davis and Brandwyine. Davis was very enthusiastic about the idea, Brandywine just signed a contract allowing the Alien creature to feature in return for a lucrative cut of the profits. At no point during the production of Alien 3, Resurrection, AVP or AVPR did Brandywine state their dissatisfaction. They are, unbelievably, the guardians of this franchise, but its is because of their greed and inaction that the franchise has suffered so greatly. So Xenotron I ask you... do you still wish to praise these vultures?

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The top image does look simular to what was explained to me ages ago, i was told this on April 1st and passed it on, on these boards about April 3rd.... So i had my doubts..... But yes what was described was simular to that to picture, but also could had described something simular to the Alien Suit in Independance day.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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@Snorkelbottom That Brandywine history wreaks of butt-hurt fanwanking. I don't care whether or not Sigourney Weaver didn't like the direction her character went in Aliens, and neither should anyone else. If she really cared that much about the direction, she wouldn't have done it in the first place. Over dramatic commentary on nothing. Its just a movie Hollywood, get over yourself.

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