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Hermaphrodite Cobra.

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Karstenphd

MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 7:18 PM
Is it just me or does the cobra look phallic, initially, then opens up and look vaginal? The sexual organ that will be part of the disturbing aspect of the film. Also, why do I get the feeling that the Engineers don't need or posses penises, maybe the cobra is to Engineers, what facehuggers are to aliens.
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Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 7:21 PM
That's actually a very good point karstenphd. Remember there was suggestions from Ridley that there was very perverse things going on on that planet. Very un-civilized behavior ;-)
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Jchmtz

MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 7:26 PM
because H R Giger its a twisted fuck and he likes sexual thing in paints or something like that

Karstenphd

MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 7:29 PM
I am so glad that I am not the only one seeing this. I am trying to get away from human and mammal reproduction to some creepy Gigeresqueness. Super sperm and your the Ova!

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 7:32 PM
look, we all know by default by now that everything Giger and Scott do or yes, do together, is going to be most provocative and certainly in it's most naturalistic form...people, it's a given.

sukkal

MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 7:36 PM
I suspect that the cobra is not a part of the Engineers’ reproductive cycle, but they could easily be humanoid without having two sexes. The Newborn in [i]Resurrection[/i], was essentially [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex]intersex[/url] (before the studio freaked out and had that feature removed in post). [img]http://www.yourprops.com/movieprops/original/yp4e6657a3b4ccd4.58777173/Alien--Resurrection-1997-movie-props.jpg[/img] That could mean (assuming that the Engineers fiddled with the xeno DNA) that they don’t really distinguish between masculinity and femininity the way it’s evolved on (and is important for genetic diversity on) Earth.

tachito

MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 7:37 PM
Good point It could be!

Karstenphd

MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 7:41 PM
Sometimes the Engineers strike me as powerful shot callers, manipulating this and creating that, at other times more subservient and Eunuch like, almost like guardians.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 7:42 PM
I like that and it is perfectly in line with what we all perceive as Giger's and Scott's typical thought patterns it would seem.

shardy

MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 7:47 PM
so "intersex" is considered "perverse"....really...?!?

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 7:48 PM
maybe "different" is a better word Shardy.

Karstenphd

MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 7:59 PM
So, any thoughts on were that thing (Cobra) is originating from as it's swimming (urn, Engineer pants, just hangin around the Temple) or if it is in league with the Engineers in some symbiotic way? Or is it the cause of death and mayhem for the Engineer race, exploding heads, bodies strewn about temple.

sukkal

MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 8:10 PM
[quote=shardy][i]so "intersex" is considered "perverse"....really...?!?[/i][/quote] Not by me. Not in the [u]least[/u]. My reply to the topic was not related to Cypher's comment. I'm saying that intersex traits or a paradigm of ‘non-gender’ might be the NORM for the Engineers. I'm not familiar with this reported comment by Ridley that there were “perverse things going on on the planet.” I will find the Engineers much more interesting if they are NOT simply “males (who have lost their females)” as some have posited here.

Karstenphd

MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 8:21 PM
@shardy, when did anyone say intersex was considered perverse? What am I missing? I would consider mobile genitalia perverse, espescially if "No means NO!!" doesn't apply, lol.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 8:26 PM
[quote]Sometimes the Engineers strike me as powerful shot callers, manipulating this and creating that, at other times more subservient and Eunuch like, almost like guardians.[/quote] Ya "member" The Running Jockey in The Tunnels...?... I think they...true Xeno's...may be guarding the Ampule Room, as Murals in the walls that come to life when the vials are disturbed. Yet another in a long line of whacked out predictions by yours truly.

artyoh

MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 8:40 PM
Judging from the "C-section" scene, and the vagisnake, it's pretty clear we're going to see a psychosexual freak-show......which is exactly as it should be. heh heh

FREEZE!

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 9:42 PM
What have I walked into lol
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Karstenphd

MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 10:04 PM
Leave while you can!! Yeah,I'm wondering what would make those big mean Engineers piss their pants. Vagisnake, cool.

EGR101

MemberOvomorphMay-05-2012 4:49 AM
The Xeno-Cobra organism resembles a stylised vagina (with a gigantic clitoris) more than a penis and 2 balls. When it opens up it does not look like a vagina at all...It looks like a winged angle with bowing head and clasped hands as if to pray. This is a very bold design by PROMETHEUS team.

EGR101

MemberOvomorphMay-05-2012 4:49 AM
bump

Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphMay-05-2012 5:18 AM
vagisnake- I like that :-P better than anything with Xeno in it, sorry EGR but I [b]hate[/b] that word in the Alien universe...... Speshully in regards to anything new in this movie..........
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Ashmodean

MemberOvomorphMay-05-2012 5:28 AM
When I read the word "Vagisnake" it sounds like a whisper in my head like one of those pretentious perfume commercials.

ZetaReticuli

MemberOvomorphMay-05-2012 6:29 AM
I like that 'remote' genitalia theory here, also the 'vagina cobra' becoming an angel symbol EGR101, that's genius. I remember reading something along the lines of the Facehugger being described as an 'ambulatory penis'. I think it was in the Scanlon and Gross 'Book of Alien'.

the coming

MemberOvomorphMay-05-2012 6:57 AM
I like the *Camel*snake...good design...

Gem]n[

MemberOvomorphMay-05-2012 7:08 AM
[img]http://oi50.tinypic.com/b838us.jpg[/img]

the coming

MemberOvomorphMay-05-2012 7:11 AM
yes it's what's on the tip of everyone's tongue....Tyler Durden and me just gave it a name...

Gem]n[

MemberOvomorphMay-05-2012 7:12 AM
[img]http://oi48.tinypic.com/2aepj54.jpg[/img]

sukkal

MemberOvomorphMay-05-2012 4:41 PM
[quote=the coming]I like the camelsnake...good design...[/quote] Something tells me this is NOT the term that will go down in the history books for it.

ShinobiX9X

MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 8:05 AM
Bunny snake then?

CrazyDave55811

MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 11:05 PM
Well obviously the creature is based off of H.R. Giger's concepts, so of course it's going to look sexual. This creature looks like a penis (or a sperm, depending on the angle) and has a mouth that looks like a china. Though if this creature is compared to the Facehugger, which doesn't look like a penis but has an orifice resembling a vagina (where the tube comes out to lay the egg in a host), I'd say the Cobralien has a smaller vagina. You can interpret this however you like.

Karstenphd

MemberOvomorphMay-25-2012 11:59 PM
They did want the egg's opening in in Alien to be a vagina according to abordoli in a recent post by Id Rather Be Eatin Somethin Else. Maybe someone could look at the closed organism as being male genitalia, when opened it appears to be female, lips, clitoris, urethra, etc.
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