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1ST TRUE DISAPPOINTMENT

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shardy

MemberOvomorphApr-26-2012 4:46 PM
so far, PROMETHEUS has failed to disappoint me... until today, seeing that moronic looking "power loader / pulse rifle" is not something i was hoping to EVER see on ANY Weyland PROMETHEUS official related sites, but for whatever reasons it is on the Weyland site (UGH) if this is Scott's doing, therein lies the germ of my TRUE disappointment... however, if this is just "Fox" and their bullshit attempts to tie in Cameron's poorly conceived / executed xerox copy of ALIEN, then it softens this blow of stupidity in any case, i will try my best to not let this crap ruin my anticipation of PROMETHEUS, and all that it has promised so far in any case - - MUTHURFUCKER...
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craigamore

MemberOvomorphApr-26-2012 8:10 PM
Any time shardy..I call 'em as I see 'em...

shardy

MemberOvomorphApr-26-2012 8:17 PM
@allinamberclad: thank you for at least being objective about the entire point of this thread. i will agree, and agree to disagree with some of your opinions @craigamore: same here, man...same here

klaatu

MemberOvomorphApr-26-2012 8:43 PM
Feel the love.... I am of the age demographic to see Alien in theatres at time of release when I was 13. Alien is no doubt my favourite film of all time, closely followed by Blade Runner and 2001. I don't dislike Aliens...its just a different style of film from a different style of director. If you don't like Aliens....don't self inflict any unnecessary pain or heartache by watching it. Simple really..!! Lets all move on and respect each others opinions. At least we are debating this franchise of film classics, rather than considering if The Notebook was better than The Vow.....(small bit of sick in my throat right now)

silica

MemberOvomorphApr-26-2012 9:06 PM
Well, I suppose RS has the right to copy himself, but still, as far as templates go, this one seems pretty true to form: Humanity gets a message, which they follow to a deserted place, which they enter only to get their butts kicked, so they retreat to their ship to come up with a plan or at least understand what just happened, but the counterforce is growing and doing its thing so they have to act, there is fight, a big explosion - a final denouement, probably a giant fight with some alien-type thing after the explosion. no?

Grindolf

MemberOvomorphApr-26-2012 9:14 PM
First of its Ridley Scott is not under control of Fox, he has 2 films in the National Film Registry and its insane, totally insane and retarded to beleive that there is a fox executive dick in hand slapping Ridley in the face barking "NO MAKE IT MORE LIKE ALIENS BITCH" Obviously if there is a Power Loader or a Pulse rifle type weapon it is an Omage out of respect to James Cameron, we do know Ridley is NOT a fan of what James did to the Alien, yes Aliens in of it self is a good movie and I love it, but it did ruin the Alien concept. Ergo NO Queen alien, NO Queen alien making face hugger, NO BIG ANTS will be in Prometheus, why anyone would cry over somthing as awesome as the Power Load is beyond me, if I went to work and got to use that thing Id shit my self, obiously these are not plot items, there is not going to be a power loader battle dont be stupid and this is NOT an Alien Prequal in the sense that the movie leads into the movie Alien, but obviously its the same universe, how come people dont understand this yet ? Everyone is gonna hate this movie anyway because they hare hyping it in their minds too much, its probbaly not going to change society

Grindolf

MemberOvomorphApr-26-2012 9:16 PM
Every Alien movie since the original has had the same skeletal format, Ridley said he is being original in this one and trying to tell a story about "everything"

abordoli

MemberOvomorphApr-26-2012 10:40 PM
If you really think about it......all the great movies were made a long, long time ago. Everything we experience now is "sampling/canibalizing" from earlier ideas. There is no room left for original thought. Movie-making is no different than how a civilization grows.....On the backs of those that came before. So look at Prometheus this way......We get to go back and play again in that fun "playground".....whatever it is you think that was. There are no wrong answers.

shardy

MemberOvomorphApr-26-2012 11:11 PM
@abordoli: you make some valid points

juston

MemberOvomorphApr-26-2012 11:46 PM
@abordoli "Movie-making is no different than how a civilization grows.....On the backs of those that came before." Well, [url=http://www.everythingisaremix.info/watch-the-series/]everthing is a remix.[/url] But I do disagree with the idea that this is a new phenomenon. The more I get into older films, the more I realize they are just as derivative and cannibalistic as anything created today. If you look back to even the earliest days of Hollywood, adaptations, remakes and sequels were already the rule rather than the exception. There may be no such thing as truly original thought.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-26-2012 11:50 PM
I agree "CP", I Just my opinion but I like it !

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-26-2012 11:50 PM
The barrel on that thing though does look weak!

jonesy the cat

MemberOvomorphApr-27-2012 12:03 AM
in a scene of the trailer you can see someone firing a very common firearm. a pistol not a rifle. I side with shardy. ALIENS is very loud and it's first mistake was to ignore Giger and change the creature

jonesy the cat

MemberOvomorphApr-27-2012 12:32 AM
at 2:03 of the uk trailer they are shooting with sidearms, not very sofisticated

Grindolf

MemberOvomorphApr-27-2012 12:44 AM
They are not marines ergo side arms not assault weapons, they are not assaulting the planet its for personal defense. I think people could be original, look at Christopher Nolan, he works his ass off to be original and not to talk down to his audience he treats you with respect, the exact opposite is Micheal Bay. Both make very watchable movies but if you want substance you go with Nolan Ridley Scott works hard on saving money to use in more important areas and he knows how to direct people, which a lot of directors have no fucking idea how too, George Lucas and M Knight Shalydouche both fucking fail at directing people, Ridley will push people and give them what they need to do a good job James Cameron like to yell at you untill you get it right lol People need more faith in a man who has 2 movies that have been stored away forever for "Cultural Significance" and worry less about what fucking gun people are holding, (Gun kill person) thats all you need to know

artyoh

MemberOvomorphApr-27-2012 1:01 AM
Nice post, Grindolf.

jonesy the cat

MemberOvomorphApr-27-2012 1:10 AM
Excuse me Grindolf. I thought we where dissecting what has been given to us and since the post is about weapons I wanted to point this out. But maybe you know something that we don't. Besides I don't think they are all scientists. They must have taken some military personel. Fifield looks like a soldier to me. And yes, I think pulse rifles suck

artyoh

MemberOvomorphApr-27-2012 1:22 AM
Meh, even if someone did end up using a....what is it? [i]"Storm"[/i] rifle....we know it wouldn't be against hordes of squealing, domeless xenos.....but I'll be very surprised if we see any powerloaders[i] or[/i] quasi-pulse rifles in the movie, itself.

jonesy the cat

MemberOvomorphApr-27-2012 2:21 AM
yep. I see flamethrowers, very archaic. kill it...with fire

belladonna

MemberOvomorphApr-27-2012 2:54 AM
fire kills almost everything. even most werewolves and vampires.... yep fire is the way to go alright
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shambs

MemberOvomorphApr-27-2012 3:12 AM
but this is a gift of the titan Prometheus, our first true piece of technology...FIRE!!! [img]http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x368/bipolarestancia/prometheus-guy-pearce-weyland-ted.jpg[/img]

takka_takka_takka

MemberOvomorphApr-27-2012 3:39 AM
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jonesy the cat

MemberOvomorphApr-27-2012 3:55 AM
yet we can see a guy/creature with fire in it's back kicking ass and jumping from a vehicle. People say its fifield because of his hairstyle. I hope that the characters don't get infected and turn into the space jockeys please

BioShock

MemberOvomorphApr-27-2012 9:13 PM
I never felt Aliens was that bad of a movie. Cameron well brilliant in his own way with many huge awesome sci-fi's to his credit could not do what Ridley originally created. Aliens had a great cast and good writing. "hey, you remember that arturian poontang, the one you had was male, hey it doesn't matter when it's arturian". It had lots of suspense and enough action to rival most. Out of all the Alien sequels this one wins the silver medal. Especially, the directors cut with sentry guns in the hallway and extra scenes. The loader added to the website along with the M4A1pulse rifle are likely there to throw us off as I dont see them having any bearing once so ever on Prometheus. They are likely updating the site with products owned or used by weyland/yutani industries to refresh peoples minds. Not everyone is a diehard. IMO, they are going to build this movie into a sequel/s. They always have and always will and the only thing that matters is who continues to direct and produce it.

Ruhaniya

Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphApr-28-2012 12:29 PM
I was hoping to see some classic chromed out Sci-fi rapid fire laser guns but hey no problem. Some really scarey none-human extraterrestrial space snakes will make up for it.

jonesy the cat

MemberOvomorphApr-29-2012 11:30 AM
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