Mekja-TekOvomorphMember1 XPApr-21-2012 10:34 PM
I think the only trauma we will get is that the Engineers are just like the corporation. One track minds, that pursue endeavors at all cost. No interference allowed at all. They will observe the trespassers, analyze their actions, then rip the crew multiple new holes in their and get back to what Engineers do.
KarstenphdOvomorphMember67 XPApr-21-2012 11:10 PM
I was thinking of Gigeresque nastiness. In IMAX 3D. Some of the crew could experience some hopefully frightening exchanges or experiments, (eviscerations) with these Adonis like beings. I'm thinking about shaw crying and the captain yelling Kill them all. Others screaming cut it off and just the way the Engineers walk around like they have no fear. But there are huge dead bodies of Engineer/jockeys laying around, evidently decapitaed, so there might be even badder baddies. I just hope and believe Ridley captures his same creepy or even a creepier claustrophobic atmosphere. But what you describe sounds good too!
PUNXOvomorphMember0 XPApr-21-2012 11:23 PM
It was kinda' expected in Alien and after the jumpiness of the Facehugger, the internal weird sexualness of the derelict, and the Jockey himself... but you relaxed somewhat after Kane woke up and then the Chestburster scene was so visceral and new and damaging, scary and mentally scarring.
I trust Scott to bring something to the table that will effect people's Minds for a while and then keep bringing them back again and again!
It's fun to be scared... terrified is better!
KarstenphdOvomorphMember67 XPApr-21-2012 11:45 PM
someone convince me that the being looking at his hand in the waterfall scene is not an Engineer looking at it's demise "Every king has his reign.. and then he dies. Some see a crewmember or the 1st man. I don't see a human genesis or forming, I see decay, possible mutation or just old age finally catching up (possible need for creating or helping in our creation for future use). These beings seem to have plenty of time to cultivate civilizations and terra form worlds, so why insta-man. These are either demi gods or god like beings. The more I see these figures the more inhuman they seem. I have not been terrified, had nightmares or obsess over the what if's since I first saw Alien and then had to go read A.D.Fosters novelization, fangoria articles, Gigers works, etc. to try to get more questions answered about the Enginees/Space Jockeys and xenomorphs. Davids troubling look at heiroglyphics, glee at squigling organism, picking up thing out of vial without gloves. Hmmm. Think of what we do daily to lesser beings (experiments, eat, sacrifices at time),
PrenihilityOvomorphMember0 XPApr-21-2012 11:49 PM
"The cast find an establishment which is not what they expected it to be, it’s a civilization but what we find in it is very uncivilised behaviour"
That quotes from Ridley Scott made me think quite a bit. I’m glad to see that this fan-base is very curious, and always willing to share ideas. Then again, who isn't? I’m pumped.
Anyhow. My thoughts on the Space Jockeys. Initially, ever since i saw it in the original movie, i interpreted them as basically some space-nerds who have a higher understanding of the universe and heightened intellect.
After coming to the conclusion that they are responsible for the Xenomorphs, my interpretation changed. These are the folks that created the Xenomorph, the thing of nightmares... An absolute terror, that makes all other fictional alien creatures (non-sentient) look like they belong in The Sound of Music...
I could see them sending in the Xenos to clear out a planet. Whilst waiting in their ships, checking computer systems, deciding on what to do with their newly acquired planet; which they got through force, no less. Brewing some coffee in the meantime, etc.
I believe they have an agenda. Sick like Weyland-Yutani, as a corporation? Yes. A simple-minded goal (money, YAY!)? No. They have an understanding of the universe that humans don't. Their questions(which belittle our curiosity of existentialism), goals, and answers are attained through alternate means, which we can't even comprehend. They have an agenda. I won't call it a plan.
I want them to have THEIR own epic moments, as well. For example the ending of the original Predator movie, when the Predator finally takes of that bad-ass mask of his, and reveals his face (sorry, i had to make a Predator reference).
*Fast forward to movie's release; ****s bricks once Space Jockey sits in position from original Alien movie*.
Although, still, a part of me wants them to be able to garner some sort of respect from others, and at least have some shred of morality. After all, you have to give up something to achieve something. Part of me wants them to be the cold-hearted mystery-engulfed beings that I described. Yet on the other hand, I want them to be understandable, in some way, more or less.
Once again, it was all but a preamble for the Prometheus story/series that I’m sure will inevitably spawn from Prometheus. We'll still see the Xenos, though, im sure :). If not, oh well, it’ll be a necessary sacrifice. Plus, as I’ve mentioned in my other posts, they’re just monsters. Very well thought-out monsters! But... Not deep enough to create an entire series based on them. They’re nothing more than a presence for the Prometheus story (yes, I’m acting as if it’s set in stone, but bear with me, here). I can’t entirely dismiss the Xenomorphs. I’m sure their creation is very, VERY important, and quite likely THE most important thing about them.
Went a little off-topic at the end, but. Yeah. Once again, can’t wait to see the Space Jockeys in action.
We’ll be witnessing the birth of an incredible Sci-fi story, boys and girls. I’m confident.
LateOvomorphMember0 XPApr-22-2012 1:41 AM
@Prenihility - Christ, this is the sort of thing that I rant about in wee hours after having a few of the Tall Ones that are the Engineers of the 'fridge while preparing to wax poetic on a solid post about a flick I can't wait for.
I think the scene with the Jock opening the trailer is either:
1. Hey, you are too close to the power that created you, so you are getting bounced. Nice rebellion, ( Special Preview Of Coming Attractions as in the "Old Testament" ), gonna throw a spank down via Engineer to cast you out.
2. An overthrow born from what was created, the most beloved who have failed their Engineers by seeking their power, are punished and turn upon one another after their respective '86 from "the club". In addition, humanity shows up with the same intent, leading the Jocks to pretty much hand us our ass with the knowledge we were designed and disposed to recreate their same trespass.
....then again, maybe they just want take out the garbage, and we happen to be in the bag they consider the universe....
Great post, man.
Thank God there's at least one cat here than can be flip - got told by WannaBeNostromoCrewMembWhoLivesInParentsBasement@me.com a few times to go screw for trying to piece things together after a few cold ones and jumping on the board.
Looking forward to get what gets posted next.
Myrddin365FacehuggerMember425 XPApr-22-2012 7:53 AM
The following movies make it very clear that Ripley was deeply psychologically damaged by what happened to her in Alien, and that was just a perfect killing machine bent on survival and procreation at all costs. Pure instinct with an unknown level of intelligence.
Whatever is on that planet has a much more intentional and sinister agenda than plain survival if their invitation leads to a house of horror and death. That means the psychological damage to survivors just surpassed Lovecraftian levels. They will know that they have lost any chance of a normal life, and will be unable to achieve any kind of peace or stability knowing that these evil beings bent on the annihilation of the human race could still be out there.
It's way scarier to know that something WANTS to destroy us and has plans to do so, than encountering something that simply COULD destroy if allowed to reach earth just by being itself.
Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!