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Arthur Max talks about Prometheus

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Austrailian site Spotlight Report has an article from ‘The Art of Prometheus: The Planet’ by Joe Utichi, in which Production designer Arthur Max talks about his work on the project. When the crew of the Prometheus land on the alien planet at the core of their expedition, they find an inhospitable, barren environment and a strange, vast alien structure. It will, assures director Ridley Scott, look like nothing we’ve seen before in science fiction, and the production went to great lengths to shoot on location in Iceland, at a location so remote that the cast, crew and equipment had to be airlifted in. The Icelandic location, it transpires, wasn’t the first choice. “We were planning to shoot in Morocco,” reveals production designer Arthur Max. “But with all the geopolitical turmoil in North Africa, we weren’t able to do so. We’d scouted it several times with everybody and had worked out all our locations, and we’ve had to rethink.” The change means a very different aesthetic to the look of the planet – Morocco’s deserts have been replaced by the cold, icy rock of the Iceland location. “When we first scouted Iceland it was winter, and 20 below, and you couldn’t see anything,” remembers Max. “But thank God we’d pre-scouted it. When we went back we nailed the locations and got Ridley over there and he liked them.” In addition to shooting on location in Iceland, the production took over the 007-Stage at Pinewood Studios, just outside London. At 374ft long, it is the largest soundstage in Europe and boasts more than 59,000 sq ft of usable space. For PROMETHEUS, it wasn’t big enough by half. The production started on the backlot behind the stage, constructing the Prometheus’s cargo bay and a small replica of the planet surface. This spilled onto an extension built to house more of an alien pyramid mound interior set, before finally connecting, and filling, the main space inside 007-Stage. “It’s never big enough,” sighs Scott. “I worked on it once, years ago, for a film called LEGEND, and I burnt it down. Even then I was thinking, ‘Damn, it’s not long enough.’” In the end, the production added 150ft to the stage’s length. “I knew, looking from end to end, it was never going to be big enough for this set,” says Scott. “I hate working with green screen. I like the actors to have their proscenium and see what they’re doing; see the arena they’re in. It’s partly that. To do that blue screen thing and say, ‘the monster’s coming down the corridor!’ It’s really boring.” “The scale meant we could do a nice, big exploration scene in there,” explains Max. “We’ve got a 250ft network of tunnelling in there, 150ft of chambers and 25ft high doors.” For Michael Fassbender, Scott’s attention to detail in the set design of the planet surface was second to none. “Have you gone into 007-Stage yet?” he exclaims with disbelief. “You have to see the space colon, as I call it!” The practicality of the set makes his job easier as an actor, he explains. “What’s great is Ridley will do something on a piece of fishing line if it works, and stick a bit of green screen up in the corner. He knows technology but what’s great about him is he’s very primal. Even the technology in the film, you’re like, ‘That’s totally feasible.’” To be able to look around at the set in 360 degrees is essential, he argues. “To have these things all around you helps, without a doubt. It’s like putting on the costume. Or if you do a period piece, to be surrounded by the objects that they would have used at that time; all of that helps you get that extra layer on the character. If it’s not there then you have to work on it but it just takes that little section out that you have to work on.” Arthur Max says he and Ridley Scott have learnt, over many years of working together on films like GLADIATOR, KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, and BLACK HAWK DOWN, that sometimes it’s better to achieve something practically than with CGI. “I think balance is the key in how much you build,” he says. “You have to get a convincing base, and when you speak to the visual effects department, they’ll tell you that they want enough reference material to work from. It’s especially tough on this, because almost every shot has a visual component and everything has to be constructed from scratch. You can’t go to a backlot and you can’t go to a prop house.“ The centrepiece of the alien set at Pinewood was a 32ft tall monolithic head, which can be glimpsed in posters for the film. This was built practically by Arthur Max’s team. “The idea there is that it’s part of the culture of the Engineers,” says Max of the race of aliens at the heart of the story. “This race of interplanetary visitors who have given us upgrades – mentally and physically – over the millennium.” Constructing the “pyramid mound” – its shape was described as a pyramid in the script, explains Max, but the final conception is a little different, hence the contradictory descriptor – took 16 weeks to complete with more than two hundred technicians working on it. In attempting to understand PROMETHEUS’s connection to ALIEN, for which H.R. Giger designed the reptilian, skeletal and iconic look of the Xenomorph alien, Max says he had a clear direction from Scott. “Ridley said, ‘I don’t want it to be too Giger-y, but I don’t want to give it all up either.” The art department looked at design work Giger had achieved for the first ALIEN film, in the form of archival files retrieved from the Motion Picture Academy Library and from the personal collections of those who’d worked on the first film. Ridley also screened some of the genre’s most definitive works. “He had accumulated a lot of research based on the original movie and the whole series,” remembers Max. “We watched all those movies. Ridley had us screen ALIEN and BLADE RUNNER, and a lot of movies with ‘STAR’ in the title. There’s three of them. I’ll let you figure out which ones!” Watching the reference material was as much about discovering what not to do. “We didn’t want to be like any one of those,” Max explains. “We wanted to be new and fresh because, I hate to admit it, otherwise it really dates us. We decided to make it less biological, in terms of the styling of the alien planet, and more mechanical.” Max summarises the key challenge of envisioning the alien environment: “The people who inhabit this planet, called the Engineers, and their technology, is beyond anything we’re able to know or understand, but it has to be visually interesting. That’s, I think, the hardest challenge, too, because we have to compete with the most iconic science fiction creature ever. Trying to come up with something that’s going to rival that is the real trick.” Prometheus is directed by Ridley Scott, from a screenplay by Damon Lindelof and Jon Spaihts. The film stars Noomi Rapace, Michael Fassbender, Charlize Theron, Guy Pearce, Idris Elba, Sean Harris, Rafe Spall, Logan Marshall-Green, Patrick Wilson and Kate Dickie, and is due for release on June 8th 2012 in the USA, and June 1st 2012 in the UK.
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@ Sparti: "stone knives and bearskins" Heh, heh. "City on the Edge of Forever" I love it.
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Yes... but it is possible that Weyland.. or his father?? was a "benefactor" of one of the most recent Engineer "visits"?? Weyland's exploits are almost impossible to believe... made even more curious that his father was supposedly a "self-taught" engineer. So his son of the "self-taught" engineer dad and professor of mythology mom goes on to CURE Cancer and essentially solve earths renewable energy crisis and global warming/pollution eco nightmare, and then founds a company that creates an FTL spacecraft and a "living" android practically indistinguishable from a human being... he is literally the most gifted, wealthy and powerful human to have EVER LIVED. Wow!
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@Frantz Exactly.
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after reading this excerpt, i am really glad i pre-odered the book @tachito: thanx for posting this!
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I dont think Weyland have something in common with the engeener's gifts ...weyland is something in the last 50 years before the movie , while we are talking about gifts of the last millennia ...are two too different scales . Plus while Weyland was raising on earth i think the engeeners had they share of problems .
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Canaphil yes that will make a bit more sense ... can be also that he Engineers gave him ( we dont know in which way ..) the FTL drive to reach them ...and ... ( wait wait ...can be that they are angry because we play the gods too creating the android ?? )
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very interesting ..it say alot of things ..and quit many speculations forever ...
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By the 'Pyramid Mound' I take it he means the mountain with the head(?) on top? So that was a physical construction too? His statement of it taking 16 weeks to build seems to point to this. Must've used another vast sound stage for that one even as a gigantic miniature. By miniature, I mean a 40-50ft thing.
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Hmmm. "Space colons" and "alien mounds..." I think I'm starting to see a pattern here :P
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This little interview has more spoilers and answers than the zillion interviews with the cast and authors so far!
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born. Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
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@ Nox... YEP !!! Especially this blurb... The centrepiece of the alien set at Pinewood was a 32ft tall monolithic head, which can be glimpsed in posters for the film. This was built practically by Arthur Max’s team. “The idea there is that it’s [b]part of the culture of the Engineers[/b],” says Max of [b]the race of aliens at the heart of the story. “This race of interplanetary visitors who have given us upgrades – mentally and physically – over the millennium[/b].” HAH!!... There you go folks!
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So the head depicts the "Engineer" race, then; [i]they[/i] are the alien race that the story revolves around. And any other alien organisms will be the 'monsters' that Ridley and Lindelof have mentioned in interviews. Makes sense to me.
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VERY interesting ... I agree with Nox too ... The upgrades I take it are what Weyland has 'produced' over the years then? ... cure for cancer ... technology unheard of ... this that and the other? ... I always thought Weyland was an Intergalactic Thief ... but could it turn out that he was given these things? ... because according to the timeline no-one else has ANYTHING near his standards of Company resources ... or inventions ... he's running Earth basically ... I see Arthur Max didn't talk about his Prometheus Ship design :( ...
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@CanadaPhil, I figured as much. So we've got some of the ancient alien ideas going on, and tinkering with humankind. I've always felt this would be the case, otherwise why have a religious character like Shaw to serve as a foil whose creation myths aren't challenged by evidence of extraterrestrial manipulation?
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Thanks for posting, that made for an interesting read. Just a thought: [b]“This race of interplanetary visitors who have given us upgrades – mentally and physically – over the millennium.”[/b] = [img]http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/pCtvg6rUWyw/hqdefault.jpg[/img]
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@tachito, Wow, excellent article. A lot of clues! For sure details a lot of hard work by the crew to make this happen for us! I'm excited!
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@Gem]n[, Yeah, it's as though Weyland was "visited" and granted his gifts, or his patronage was visited at some point, and those gifts were passed down genetically. Who knows, maybe there are certain people (like spies, or Cylons for lack of a better example right off the top of my head) that can be activated by Engineers to achieve certain goals (or just so they can sit back and watch what kind of uncivilized things the activated human comes up with). Call it divine intervention, and Weyland is one of those who is activated. Hence, his insane number of contributions to society compared to the average person. Was Einstein activated? Michelangelo? The pope? Hitler? Etc.
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The pope, hitler, justin bieber. The engineers are not a benevolent race. :(
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born. Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
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?.... I'm struggling a little to see anything in this that we didn't already know...
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I think the mention of "upgrades" is being misunderstood a bit here. The implication in Arthur Max's comment is that the Engineers have deliberately tinkered with the race of homo sapiens (and, I suppose, our progenitors) over the millennia, improving us physically and mentally. Giving us upgrades the same way an auto manufacturer upgrades a particular model of car with each new year's release. Or, the way Weyland Industries has upgraded its android models over time, if you prefer.

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