Prometheus Ending

First the title, symbollic. Prometheus stole fire from the gods. Just from the leaked photo's, you see the intent focus on something contained in that cylinder. The chamber with the Urns, a correlation to the egg chamber on the crashed vessel on LV-426. The principle difference being the Urns are constructs while the Eggs are biological containers. It's a Pandora's box event in the making. Though I'm not exactly sure how the material in the cylinder interacts with living tissue that's undoubtedly going to occur. If the installation and the urns belong to the Space Jockey's species it would be like leaving a loaded gun on the table for a baby to play with, Intentional? As for how it ends, in this genre, and observing the track record of the films as a series I'd say not favorably.

Arrgy - Interesting theory on why Ash did not immediately freeze the Alien. That could definitely be it. I'm just not so sure it would have left Ash alone. Sure Ash is a synthetic, but how do we know the Alien can't cocoon Ash and turn his synthetic body into an egg like it tried to do with Dallas and Bret? How do we know it can't use Ash's body as a food source? I know that may all sound silly since ash is a robot, but for all we know the alien could potentially get by on ingesting/digesting almost any substance if it needed to. After all it is a " [i]perfect organism[/i]". Can the synthetic parts used to create Ash be enough to sustain the alien's life cycle or at least certain parts of it? Also, I'm not so sure the alien cares about threatening vs non-threatening life-forms. After all, how was Bret a threat? its not like he accidentally cornered the thing. It came down and pulled him up. Later on it seemed not to care too much about Ripley in the escape ship. Not until she annoyed it enough to get its attention. (Maybe at that point in the movie the alien was not interested in Ripley because it had just fed off Parker and Lambert...maybe its hostility is partially motivated on hunger?)

Theusprom wrote - "We already know that some of Prometheus is set millions of years in the past, so maybe that is where the Space Jockey on LV-426 will be wrote into the story.Either that, or god forbid, it has time travel in it." Didn't Ridley mention something ominous about the frightening effects of faster-than-light travel (i.e. time dilation?) as part of the horrific charge of the project when he was still working it up a year or so ago? Given the limited wiggle room between the new film's human time-frame and that of 'Alien', with all the latter's hard-to-reconcile loose ends over W-Y's knowledge of LV-426 (nicely catalogued by other contributors here) might the 'Prometheus' crew end up lost in VERY distant space-time?

Hey guys. I just popped the DVD in and took a look at the movie. Something came to mind. LV-426 looks more like a moon to a gas giant instead of an actual planet itself. Check out the back ground as the Nostromo approaches the planetoid.

Draek-my theory is this. Anything that is flesh..animals or man the alien can sense. We know it has a heightened sense ability from Alien3 when it didn't kill Ripley because it could sense a queen. The alien therefore probably would not sense the same thing that it would need from Ash or Bishop or any other robot. Now, as to the Alien not immediately attacking Ash. I believe in the novel for Aliens there is a scene where Bishop is making his way down the tube to the terminal, the tube somehow gets broken and he has to enter a room, and of course in that room are a bunch of aliens that do not bother him. Bishop then crosses the room and reenters the tunnel. This is something that J.C. left out when he did the movie. And I totally agree with you about Brett and Ripley, the Alien had just left the chestburster stage and is now a full fledged adult, and I agree with you that he didn't attack Ripley because it was full and want to get some shut eye. That mean Ripley had to go and wake the poor critter.

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Watch the movie again. The Alien toys with it's prey, it approached Lambert slowly letting her fear paralyze her. It takes it's time killing it's victims. I think this film as any is open for interpretation. I myself never thought the xenomorph ate Parker or Lambert. There wasn't time, Ripley came tearing down that corridor from the bridge and found their bodies. It's just my interpretation but with the entire [i]Nostromo[/i] available for it to lurk in why did it immediately go in the [i]Narcissus[/i] afterwards? Though there isn't any evidence to support the conclusion that it knew it had to get off the Nostromo, that's the impression I've always had.

Wouldnt it be a unique twist if the Alien knew that the ship was about to self destruct? That it is infact an intelligent lifeform and not simply running on instinct?

It was not suggested that the Xenomorphs were merely animals until Cameron took his swing at the Franchise. The films that followed Alien portrayed the xenomophs as beastial acting on instincts, really crushing any notion that the organism might have been highly intellegent, adapting to it's environment from the moment it borrowed DNA from it's host organism. Looking at it from a structural standpoint, that's a very big cranium...

Arrgy - I think I've pinpointed where we may be thinking of this differently. In my interpretations, I was not taking into account anything from any of the sequels. Including the aliens reactions towards humans vs androids. That's because I believe the sequels will be largely ignored in Prometheus. In other words, I don't think the alien will be treated as a wild animal/insect that drives off instinct. Maybe necessity, but not instinct. Another interesting theory I heard elsewhere is that the Alien had Kane's memories and acted upon them. (i.e.: It killed whomever Kane disliked or was annoyed by.) This would also explain why its suggested that the Alien did not kill Lambert but instead tried to "mate" with her causing her to die of fright? Probably just speculation but interesting to think about, ain't it?

Do we know what Ash was made from? Seems there was a very important white fluid that allowed these robots to function and act human. Could this be some kind of Biomech DNA material the company synthesized from the DNA code that was discovered on earth. Maybe the character of Vickers may also be one of these robots like Ash and is coursing with this Biomech DNA and perhaps some new material is discovered to be out there, maybe when they found the original DNA there was a pointer to a planet (zeta reticuli) where something mysterious would be found and so they send this first team to investigate. However instead of something wonderful it is a virus engineered by a giant head alien below ground. This virus may react specially with Vicker's biomech DNA and she grows into something strange, perhaps she becomes the space jockey herself eventually. Maybe while she is growing her mind becomes sick and she starts genetically manipulating the urns that contain the virus so that they become a new life force (xenomorphs} a virus that will affect humans. Perhaps she also has some ties with the engineer and splices her genes with the giant head and engineers a ship to grows out of her and around them. Maybe the derelict didn't crash maybe it's development was arrested when something burst from her chest. I do not believe the space jockey has to be very old. It was just assumed he was in Alien because he looked fossilized but the planet was constantly having strange dust storms, couldn't that explain the appearance of a fossilization? Perhaps the biomech DNA also fossilizes faster than anything we are use to. Or not at all but it was fun thinking out loud : ) Maybe something in my mess may be of interest or a jumping off point for discussion lol

Hey Ghost, I think the "Hive" approach Cameron took in Aliens was to kick in that primal fear that people have of Killer Bee's and the horror stories revolving around Killer Ants, two of the dominant hive mind creatures on earth. Also when you look at it from the stand point of the egg chamber in the ship I would guess there were thousands of eggs. Which to me meant mass production of aliens. Now to me and I'm not defending Cameron by saying this but how else would you be able to collectively manage 1,000's of aliens without the Hive Mind approach? There are millions of humans and we can hardly collectively get along let alone make decisions enmasse. Individually we're smart creatures but collectively we couldn't find are rears with both hands. Regards, Rick

First I guess I should say when I hypothesize about this movie I do not consider anything from the sequels and especially not the predator movies. I am pretty sure they do not have any bearing on Prometheus. I think only of the 1977 Alien movie. After my previous post I remembered an article I read on computers engineering life: http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-cetera/science-team-creates-synthetic-life-using-computer-generated-genome-20100521/ Here the scientists really cheated and used bacteria for the host. Stealing Fire from the Gods and giving it to humans. To me this would make perfect sense of how Ash and any other cyborgs in Prometheus may have been created, The host may be biological, a monkey perhaps, the code may be alien and some body mechanics may electronic or synthesized biomaterial This would make them subject to virus and mutation and in Ash's case insanity. This would explain why It always struck me odd that Ash seemed far more advanced technologically than the rest of the equipment within their world.

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My opinion ( and excuse me for my bad english ) Ridley will want to connect prometheus to Alien to mark that the ALIEN thing belong to him ... he surely didnt like the half disaster they did with the sequels ( with the Aliens exception of course ) and i think he will want to reaffirm that the ALIEN thing belong to him . If there are no legal matters of course SO i think the ending WILL connect to ALien i a something concrete way i think the two major endings that are possibile with what we know are : 1) the crew sacrifice themselves to not let the company have the "alien toy" or to not let the Space Jockeys to spread the alien creatures in our world or to not let someon of the crew to carry the alien "infestation" back t earth - this is the bleak ending like alien 3 2) the crew sacrifice themselves but someone escape alive and seek refuge somewhere but not on earth ( very ridley scott ending , i love the fact that usually ridley give good endings not bleak ones that are so cool for geeks but ruin the movie in the long run )

Here... is EXACTLY WHAT WAS SAID...BY Damon Lindelof It started as an Alien prequel. That is what everybody wanted it to be. Obviously, Ridley Scott has not made a science fiction movie in 25 years, since Blade Runner, so the idea that he's returning to this genre is huge. But there is a real issue which is — what is the state of the Alien franchise at this point in our lives? There has been Alien vs. Predator and all these things, and its been completely and totally diluted. I've always felt that really good prequels should be original movies. And the sequels to those prequels should not be the movie which already exists because, with all due respect to anyone who makes a prequel, but why would you ruin the greatest twist in the history of cinema, "Luke, I am your father," by showing me three movies which basically spoil that surprise. You can do movies which take place before Star Wars, but I don't need to see the story of the Skywalker clan. Show me something else which I can't guess the possible outcome of. There is no suspense in inevitability. So a true prequel should essentially proceed the events of the original film, but be about something entirely different, feature different characters, have an entirely different theme, although it takes place in that same world. That was my fundamental feeling about what this movie wanted to be. Despite Lindelof being labeled as the catalyst for what is now Prometheus, the screenwriter was quick to point out that the ideas are not entirely his. Truth be told, it wasn't script doctoring in the strictest sense because the draft that existed before I came on was written by this guy named Jon Spaihts and it was very good. And there were a lot of things in the movie, Prometheus, which were Jon Spaihts and I feel like somewhere in the media reconstruction of this story, the tale is that I come in, I pitch an entirely new story, and its so original that everything else gets thrown out and that's what we're doing. In my brain, that's not exactly what happened. But I also do feel that this movie is the movie I would want to see as a fanboy, take place in that Alien universe, which precedes the events of the original Alien, but is not necessarily burdened by all the tropes of that franchise with Facehuggers and Chestbursters, and all that stuff that I love... but it's sorta like, we've seen it before, can we do something different this time? And that's the movie that Ridley wanted to make. And when you're working with an auteur, you basically just shut your mouth and listen and try to transcribe and channel the vision of that person, and get out of the way. Lindelof said that he read the script and sent an email about his ideas, and eventually landed the job. I basically sent them an e-mail and said, here is what I think, and here is what I would do, if you were interested, and the next morning... I get the call and they are like "We like your take, can you come in to Scott Free?" I walk into a room and there is Ridley Scott and an executive at Fox and I verbally present, here is everything in the script that I like now, here's some of my thinking on it — what's the lay of the land? What are the issues that you guys are having? And we have a great 90 minute meeting in which I do a lot of listening. Again, I don't want to say I went in and WOWed them, when what really happened was I gave a really short presentation and then Ridley talked about the movie he wanted to make. And then, they decided to hire me. Prometheus reportedly takes place 30 years before the original Alien and, according to online rumors, will feature the classic Alien xenomorphs. We'll have to wait until Prometheus opens on June 8, 2012, to see if that's true. ------------------ So, what I am taking away from this is quite clear...."The Growers" and "The Original Alien" in it's tinniest baby infancy of form were wildly original ideas that are clearly NOT "FACEHUGGFERS" OR "CHESTBURSTERS" and could both actually make an appearance in this film, logic, as well, a massive amount of logic, suggest that both will and do. The truth is... no one other than those working on the film know anything at all, so everything that does not come directly from them is complete and utter speculation.

Hopefully it leaves some questions, but not too many to leave me unsatisfied.

I do like the insight that damon mentioned that the sequel to prometheus is not alien however I just hope the sequel to prometheus is not alien. I want prometheus to stand on its own and let this be the space jockeys series. I would like to see that vickers is the other robot and she gives info to the company about what the space jockeys do and their inventory and thus mother and ash mission branches from this.

I think it was the original poster here that stated something I thought was extremely insightful and wise. That Space Jockey in particular he said, had quite obviously fossilized, or so it seems, and given this, The crew of the Nostromo that first encountered him, must have done so "MIllions" of years after it had arrived there. I had conveniently forgotten that fossilization happens like that over and only after millions of years have expired. Given this fact, there will either be a Massive Time Advancement sequence in the film, or else, the Space Jockey we are going to be "re-visiting"...is not going to be THAT ONE in particular. And again, this would be in line with the original script Spaiths submitted. There is one more thing... For me, that Space Jockey fits the description completely of "The Growers" in that Spaiths script. I say that Space Jockey is in fact a "Grower" from the spaiths storyline and was retained as part of the new script. I think what we will see is the "Origin" of said "Space Jockey" and on his own home world planet as well...as the growers prepare some soon to happen future mission in space which will obviously end with that species crash landing on LV426...and on a distant planet which I suspect..."Prometheus" will be the 1st ship bearing humans to investigate .

I also reminded myself, like I have to every 5-8 years or so that goes by with no new additions to the Alien Storyline that right now for all intents and purposes, LV426 is Gone, it does not exist, it was Nuked from Orbit as Hicks authorized and Ripley executed in "Aliens"...right before they made their escape in "The Sullaco".

Yeah but the Derelict on LV-426 has been there for millions of years (Dallas states it is fossilised) in Alien, and Prometheus is set 30 years before Alien so the end of Prometheus cannot be the Derelict crashing on LV-426. Also, LV-426 does exist in this movie, it won't be blown up for another 80 years or so in Aliens. The movie must be centred around another "Jockey" or planet.Scott has stated they find a civilization, but very uncivilized behaviour.

maybe David will be only one survivor and at the end of Prometheus Company will transform him to Ash.

i think the process of fossilization depend very much by the atmosphere of a planet ...btw i dont think they will link the ending of prometheus with Alien too much ..you cant link with movie made 20 years ago since you cant assume that everyone is fond with the first alien , is not money wise . So i think there will be ALOT of references and explainations but the plot is a stand alone thing . also i think there is too much talking about nudity and sexual things ...we are talking of ridley scott , come on .

The term 'fossilisation' refers to a variety of often complex processes that enable the preservation of organic remains within the geological record. It frequently includes the following conditions: rapid and permanent burial/entombment - protecting the specimen from environmental or biological disturbance; oxygen deprivation - limiting the extent of decay and also biological activity/scavenging; continued sediment accumulation as opposed to an eroding surface - ensuring the organism remains buried in the long-term; and the absence of excessive heating or compression which might otherwise destroy it. Fossilisation can also occur on land, albeit to a far lesser extent, and includes (for example) [size=200]specimens that have undergone mummification[/size] in the sterile atmosphere of a cave or desert. However in reality these examples are only a delay to decomposition rather than a lasting mode of fossilisation and specimens require permanent storage in a climate controlled environment in order to limit its affects. Maybe I should of said mummified and not fossilized, either way it's meant to of been there for a very long time. Not sure if atmosphere has anything to do with it as the eggs aren't fossilized.In the original script for Alien, there was meant to be a shot of a fossilized body of a Xeno on the Derelict too.(which the crew don't find btw)

in one of ridleys interviews, he clearly states that there will be no link to this movie and the first alien, but he also hinted that the space jokey in alien was fossilised, but that fossilisation occured slower as the planet had not been teraformed as yet. in saying that im more excited about seeing chalize theron do push ups naked to be honest.

i don't think there be a sequel to Prometheus as ridley scott states the last 10 mins of the film will have alien dna. maybe meaning it paves the way for the first movie. i found link with possible storyline, it sounds pretty right as it makes the trailer make sence http://geektyrant.com/news/2011/11/28/possible-prometheus-synopsis-arrives-spoiler.html i wonder if the space jockys sound the same as the message heard in the nostromo (seen in alien deleted scenes) ?

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