SuperAlienMember1299 XPJul-02-2020 10:26 AM
It's David Finch, not Fincher. So Marvel will do the comics then the films after the comics.
I can't afford any high hopes for the moment.
Not a Marvel / Disney fan.
SuperAlienMember1299 XPJul-02-2020 10:30 AM
Still, it's always possible fans will see some sort of Alien vs. Predator vs. Avengers crossover down the road. (IGN).
MonsterZeroMember1138 XPJul-02-2020 10:41 AM
Ant Man and Wasp versus the Black Goo.
They shrink down and battle the pathogen on it's own terms!
SuperAlienMember1299 XPJul-02-2020 10:52 AM
Ant Man and Wasp should fight against Predator, on the Xenomorph side.
It's a bug thing.
The Film Theory Of EverythingMember46 XPJul-02-2020 11:54 AM
I think Bob Chapek is going to really shake things up & go ALL-IN on key franchises, giving Us fans truley what We want & have wanted for ages: THE DIVINITIVE VERSION/S & CONTENT OF FILMS THE WAY THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE. The cheese factor taken out of them & restoring film narratives to how the originals that spawned them came about in the first place.
KongzillaMember656 XPJul-02-2020 12:21 PM
Dark Horse has created legendary comics that are forever in our hearts. But the hearts must also be open to the new blood.
XenotarisMember2180 XPJul-02-2020 1:22 PM
the alien and predator franchise is now dead to me
BigDaveMember9757 XPJul-02-2020 3:36 PM
"I’ve seen every movie they’ve ever been in, and I cannot wait to see them wreaking havoc in the Marvel Universe"
Told a Friend about this and well he is VERY EXCITED!
But he LOVES...... Power Rangers enough said! and ALIENS and AVP are his Favorite Alien Movies... Prometheus and Alien 3 ones he DONT LIKE!
To be fair if its just Non-Canon Popcorn Comics then i Guess if its FUN for some and makes MONEY then so be it.
I think it GIVES those a Disney more Control/Direction over HOW they want to Portray the Franchise....
IF they are Planning to TAKE such Cross Overs beyond Comics then they may as well KILL the Franchise DEAD!
As this would surely CREMATE the Beast and well make The Predator seem actually Quite a Serious Sci-Fi
BigDaveMember9757 XPJul-02-2020 3:37 PM
At least we will FINALLY see the ULTRA ULTRAMORPH!
BigDaveMember9757 XPJul-02-2020 3:53 PM
I will add that i think with Dark Horse at least their was the Potential for some Dark Sci-Fi within the Franchise with a more Serious Tone... not too Often though!
But with Marvel Comics.... even if we get Stand Alone Comics for ALIEN and PREDATOR i think they will be very PG-Popcorn Related.
MonsterZeroMember1138 XPJul-02-2020 4:26 PM
Guess I don't care.
the movies will always be number one on my list...(for the soundtrack alone!)
3. comic books / video games.
Wouldn't mind some alternate universe stuff.....
Is this going to include Engineers/Prometheus/AC stuff?
KongzillaMember656 XPJul-03-2020 12:38 AM
>>>Potential for some Dark Sci-Fi
A bold statement! How many Dark Horse comics about Alien have you read? Some comics like F&S/L&D, Destroying Angels, Defiance, Aliens Book One/Two/Three are solid, but >2/3 are at best generic things.
But you must remember about Superman and Batman vs Aliens and Predator, Dredd vs Predator, Green Lantern Versus Aliens. Yes, now it's Marvel. But as if this had not happened before? Endless crossovers with DC!
A rhetorical question - should we keep things in their places for the sake of potential, if they work through time? Or try to find a new way? Isn't that the main wisdom from Ridley? Search for new ways.
>>>Is this going to include Engineers/Prometheus/AC stuff?
Probably not right away. First they check the market with the help of the classics. But after - more than likely.
I think that it would be useful for many to find out that the only reason for the lack of Prometheus / AC content was FOX. They did not know where the prequels would go and what stories (to avoid contradictions) to write. Plus legal rights - did you know that Alien and Prometheus are two different brands?
Alex White said in one interview about The Cold Forge, something like: the pathogen inside facehuggers is the same Black Goo from Prometheus/Covenant. But he could not use it in the plot of the novel, because he (and probably Titan publishers too) did not have a license for Prometheus.
Of course, in this forum you can find conspiracy theory fans who sincerely believe that comics/books/games based on Prometheus are not created just because writers don’t like Prometheus. xDDDDDDD
BlackAntMember196 XPJul-03-2020 1:43 AM
Really everyone!!! REALLY!!!
This is why we cannot have nice things in this franchise!
That is beyond wacky to mix Alien with SUPER HERO FILMS!
Hey I know lets mix Alien with the Avengers and a soap opera on TV! That it! This gonna be great too...and then we can mix it with the Transformers too!
Alien used to be a franchise worth something not anymore.....
BlackAntMember196 XPJul-03-2020 1:50 AM
Ohhhhh sure of course yeah this makes perfect sense to mix these two franchises!
BlackAntMember196 XPJul-03-2020 2:02 AM
I found the audience for a film like that where Alien would be a super hero film too!!!
BigDaveMember9757 XPJul-03-2020 7:07 AM
"Endless crossovers with DC!"
Certainly i remember them ;) I think with Comics you do get Stories and Ideas that seem FUN and offer some Alternative Entertainment and thats the GREAT thing about Comics.
I just think with more Serious Stories that are aimed at the more Over 15 Year Olds is something that in Comic Form we would see LESS of from Marvel as opposed to Dark Horse.
Comics can give us some Strange Cross Overs to give us a bit of Fun to Read.... but i dont think that say making a Robocop vs Terminator Movie would be a GOOD IDEA for Example.
So i have NO Problem with Cross-Overs in Comic Form or more PG-13 related Popcorn style Comics set in the Alien or Predator Universe. But God Forbid if we had a Avengers vs Aliens Movie ;)
I think Time will Tell with the Comics if we get some more Serious Ones... I have not yet got around to reading.
Alien: The Cold Forge
But certainly Stories like that one i find Interesting, and indeed i think its interesting you bring up the Point about Prometheus i think their is Potential to Explore more about the Engineers in Comic and Novels.
Hopefully IF we get to see them more then maybe some of the Explorations are NOT similar (all the time) to say how they was in Fire and Stone (i have YET to read the other Comic Book adaption of them yet though).
BlackAntMember196 XPJul-03-2020 12:44 PM
I am still trying to get the mere mention of the toxicity of this idea out of mind at how bad this would be!!!
Dear Alien fans over the years we have discussed much. We have shared in many wonderful theories, some good some not so good; but, this my friends this!!!! THIS IS NOT HOW THE ALIEN FRANCHISE should expand it's most brilliant origination with respect to all the incredible people that worked so hard to give us this incredible art! You could say you might be just flushing is all down the toilet.
This is not an official break up Alien fans but we are close and with that I go back to the bucket.
It is such a sad story...but in the post above this one that is Jonesy.....Ripley's cat....yes even Jonesy after hearing this tragic news could not take it and is now self medicating...
dkMember8207 XPJul-03-2020 1:03 PM
The Quadrilogy will always be near and dear to me.
As for the future of the franchise, I would rather see it in Marvel's hands than Disney's- and those are the choices we have.
I am on record for enjoying AvP (but hate AvPR), and enjoy it for what it is. I think Marvel could make a decent movie as long as it doesn't get too campy and bring in unrelated characters like The Hulk and such. Bring it on and let's see what you've got, Marvel!
BlackAntMember196 XPJul-03-2020 6:27 PM
Seriously dk seriously!!! LOL Disney owns MARVEL...lock stock and two smoking barrels! How will anything be different when Disney is writing all the checks....HOW?
You do understand how corporations work right......
I can't take it any more BigDave take them to school!
Take these people to school!!!!!
dkMember8207 XPJul-03-2020 6:45 PM
BlackAnt Easy. Disney doesn't know how to handle its aquisition but knows there is a large fan base and possible profits. It hands it over to Marvel to see what they can do with it. If Disney likes it and thinks it could make a few bucks, the project could be green lit. There is no need to make it complicated.
KongzillaMember656 XPJul-04-2020 3:52 AM
>>>I just think with more Serious Stories that are aimed at the more Over 15 Year Olds is something that in Comic Form we would see LESS of from Marvel as opposed to Dark Horse.
Marvel has a MAX studio for cruel products. Sometimes they show such brutality that you will never find in DH.
SuperAlienMember1299 XPJul-04-2020 5:34 AM
Second thoughts. If Alien and Predator would eliminate all the Marvel super heroes, it's not such a bad move. Then, when there's no one left to fight, we could hope for a return to the Alien and Predator universe. Respectively.
KongzillaMember656 XPJul-04-2020 5:45 AM
Просто представь: Чёрная Вдова спускается в канализацию и видит Тора в процессе egg morphing.
- Please... Kill... Me...
Or the Hulk, who breaks the Queen’s neck, and then turns into an normal human. Suddenly he begins to cough up blood and chestburster tears his chest.
Or Ironman who is piloting a juggernaut and suddenly killed by a chestburster. Juggernaut falls on LV-426, and then ... Alien. Perfect prequel!
KongzillaMember656 XPJul-04-2020 5:50 AM
Just imagine: the Black Widow descends into the sewer and sees Thor in the process of egg morphing.
- Please ... Kill ... Me ...
SuperAlienMember1299 XPJul-04-2020 5:53 AM
Ironman will die by the hand of Predator, please see spoiler photo:
KongzillaMember656 XPJul-04-2020 5:59 AM
I am afraid - this is Iron Man - android. Look - wires and metal instead of the spine.
SuperAlienMember1299 XPJul-04-2020 6:17 AM
Doesn't look like David either. Could be a clone from Star Wars?
MonsterZeroMember1138 XPJul-04-2020 6:51 AM
Can they get the rights for David(fassbender)? or Ripley(Weaver)? Marvel/Disney may have deep pockets, but I doubt they're gonna pay for their likeness.
Lawyers and rights attorneys are gonna kill most of this series before it starts.
KongzillaMember656 XPJul-04-2020 9:03 AM
David in the armor of Iron Man. Not talking about the film. But I would definitely read such a comic!
And biomechanical Thanos as a renegade-engineer.
Marvel/Disney said they would not throw away any previous assets. That is, they will not refuse either prequels or other projects. Appearance is certainly another matter. But I do not think that the issue price will be high.
hoxMember416 XPJul-04-2020 5:42 PM
I’ve got a bad feeling about this drop.
NTFSMember92 XPJul-05-2020 3:34 AM
Hope to see plethora of dangerous creatures in future films and series in the Alien franchise. Some of these creatures will likely be at animal level of development. Looking forward to see super-intelligent alien life forms as well.
BigDaveMember9757 XPJul-05-2020 6:21 AM
I think we have to look at this from the Comic Perspective and that Disney would have known the Franchises have Potential to make MONEY from other avenues than just Movies.
So its just a bit of FUN and Popcorn and its NOT like they Expecting us to take it Serious, as its Fun to read such things NOW and again. There is a MARKET for it.
I think as far as us getting this kind of Cross-Over in a Movie is something i DOUBT we would see.
I have to check out MAX studio
I think as long as Disney does Respect that the ALIEN Franchise is suited to a Mature Audience their is SCOPE for it to be done Justice..... The Punisher is a Good Example.
I think regardless of the Medium then you can cater for Stories that are more Action Packed/Popcorn while also do some with a more Serious/Horror/Thriller kind of Plot.
If a Avengers vs Aliens Comic would NOT be someones Cup of Tea then those people DONT have to Read them ;)
So i dont think we should PANIC and think this is the Direction that a Movie would take ;)
BigDaveMember9757 XPJul-05-2020 6:22 AM
Love that Last Image ;) Would like to see a New Race that would be similar introduced to the Franchise.
NTFSMember92 XPJul-05-2020 7:30 AM
Glad you like that image. My favorite. Found it on deviantart website. Hope someone who is working on the franchise finds it and uses it for inspiration and evolution.
SuperAlienMember1299 XPJul-05-2020 7:38 AM
BigDave, that is exactly the direction a movie would take if that pleases the Marvel fans. It does not have to please the Alien fans as long as the money flows.
The Alien fanbase is divided and no film will ever unite it, so Disney could not count on these fans, no matter what they'd do. But they know they can count on Marvel fans, so it comes to my mind that a crossover will be the next film featuring a xenomorph and even Ripley. From Avatar to Avengers it's only a small step Mrs. Weaver would be willing to take if money is good.
Do you think Hill and Giller would say no?
dkMember8207 XPJul-05-2020 1:21 PM
It does not have to please the Alien fans as long as the money flows.
True. Marvel could bring something new for a younger demographic. Let them run with it and see what they can do. The geezers will complain no matter what.
The Film Theory Of EverythingMember46 XPJul-05-2020 2:48 PM
I'm wondering if this is a BIG, strategic move by Disney, through Marvel by Kevin Fiege to consolidate & streamline content control directly through Him as He has been doing with the MCU content as "Content Overlord" now but with the added caviat in overseeing multiple franchise threads of pure content. This can be a window into the many film to comics/graphic novels & comics/graphic novels to film that are poyentially coming down the pike.
We may get better Predator films, Planet Of The Apes, Star Wars (one-hopes) Aliens, X-Men, Avengers (& MCU-related /connected stuff/tie-ins), Aliens vs Predators, etc.
The Film Theory Of EverythingMember46 XPJul-05-2020 2:57 PM
Aliens & Predators existing within the MCU, the two seem to jar with one-another... It's like crossing Star Wars with Die Hard... I mean, John McClane within the Jedi Temple thats been taken over by Clone "terrorists" & Anakin no, correction, by this time, He's been Ordained: Darth Vader is now doubling as Hans Gruber. Darth Gruber... Hans Vader & McClane has to battle His way out of the besiged Temple while recuing the Jedi Younglings from certain slaughter. Well, if they put the Star Wars twist on it & had fun with it & incorperated Nakatomi Plaza as one of the many tall skyscrapers within Couracants tall skiline then You could play with the idea as long as McClanes & Grubers names were different. Hans works but not John...