XenotarisPraetorianMember4251 XPSep-03-2022 2:47 PM
Damn it, now we will never have that Alternate Alien 3
Neomorph ChestbursterMember739 XPSep-03-2022 3:16 PM
Ripley, much thanks to impressive performances by Sigourney Weaver throughout the Alien Quadrilogy, was always the heart of the Alien films. Synonymous with the series, her character arc has gone through so many phases, from a survivor, to a warrior with mother instincts, a victim who honourably sacrifices herself to save everyone, and ultimately a resurrected being who ironically now shares a bond with the creatures she fought against.
While it’s very much possible to include Weaver’s Ripley in the franchise again (and I would love to see her again) is it necessary? Or perhaps more importantly, as which Ripley? Ripley from Aliens, which would flat out ignore the events in Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection? Or following the latter, with Ripley continuing her path as the hybrid human/xeno being? The Quadrilogy is already an incredible and extremely varied (to say the least) journey for Ripley as it is.
Thoughts_DreamsNeomorphMember1691 XPSep-04-2022 6:58 AM
Good, I don't see any reason to have Ripley in everything connected to Alien. To me she died in Alien 3 and that's it. Expand the franchise and bring in new things, we don't need Riley in everything. Make new characters, and get a writer that knows how to do that and that understands their importance to the story. Unfortunately they didn't work in the prequels, but trying something new isn't bad in itself. Time to move on
BigDaveDeaconMember10416 XPSep-30-2022 8:06 AM
This seems to be the DEATH of the Walter Hill and David Giler version of ALIEN V which seemed to indicate a LOT of the Franchise could be down to DREAMS!
Ripley had her STORY..... it should have ENDED with ALIEN 3.
The ONLY thing to Salvage from Ripley would be the AFTERMATH of Alien Resurrection. Where we have Ripley 8 being to me the more IDEAL kind of Bio-Weapon for a Company than the Xenomorph.
The ALIEN Franchise is a Mess to be Honest..... and seems NONE of them can come up with anything Decent that does-not go and Retcon or Conflict stuff.
It seems the Idea we have NOW is yeah lets bring the Xenomorph to Earth some 20 Years before ALIEN.... oh well!
XenotarisPraetorianMember4251 XPOct-01-2022 6:32 AM
yeah, Noah Hawley's alien I think will be worse than alien vs predator 04
BigDaveDeaconMember10416 XPOct-10-2022 8:08 AM
Only TIME will TELL....
I Certainly think to have the Xenomorph running Amok on Earth some 20+ Years before ALIEN could be a MASSIVE MISTAKE.
Regarding Blomkamps ALIEN V i think there was Potential, i just dont think you had to BRING BACK our Ripley... but Originally his Idea did-not Feature her and it was Miss Weaver who Persuaded him to include her.
Blomkamps Idea set between say the Year 2200-2250 and on a Research Planet or Base that is NOT on Earth.... with the ENDING being this Place is DESTROYED... and in a PLOT that does-not have RIPLEY etc.... i think it WOULD have Worked.
Such a Direction would NOT have Conflicted with ANY of the Franchise.
The Noah Hawleys idea would Work to a Degree if it was SET like in 2200-2250 also. It could be Canonized as Resulting in a Mass Nuking of the Earth that would Eradicate the Xenomorph... and give us the Landscape we saw at the End of Alien Resurrection in Paris.
XenotarisPraetorianMember4251 XPOct-10-2022 3:42 PM
Yeah but Hollywood is obsessed with setting things before the original rather than afterwards
Rings of Power
Star Trek Discovery
Star Trek Strange New Worlds
and now Alien Series
BigDaveDeaconMember10416 XPOct-11-2022 7:03 AM
I think my Biggest Concern would be the Contradiction.... in regards to a TV Show that was Set before ALIEN.
But as this TOPIC is about how Disney have NO interest in giving us anything with Ripley in i think this is a GOOD MOVE.... she has had her Story.
UNLESS they Choose to Continue the Fate of Ripley 8 but this would be Difficult with Miss Weavers Age... but there are ways STORY WISE you could get around this... but then its a CASE of do we do something NEW or would we have to have more Vanilla-Morphs... as in the Aesthetic we have seen in Alien/Aliens, AVP and AVPR etc.
XenotarisPraetorianMember4251 XPOct-11-2022 11:03 PM
More than likely we would see a Vanilla-morph with new powers
BigDaveDeaconMember10416 XPOct-14-2022 4:22 AM
Yeah i see the Xenomorph as a Species that can Adapt to its Environment and Evolve so we could see some Off-Shoots of the Xenomorph with some Different Traits and Abilities.
I think they give us the Vanilla-Morph which means looking like those from ALIEN and ALIENS as its what we are Familiar to but i think you can CHANGE it a Little. Some Concepts from the ALIEN V: Red Harvest work did this.
But i would also be Interested in some other Aspects of the Black Goo and Horror that can come from this.... but i Suspect that DISNEY are NOT much of a Fan of the Black Goo as we saw it in Prometheus. And i think they would Explore it and Answer it as Purely Obtained from a Xenomorph.
While i wont Discus Blomkamps Ideas at the Moment... his Story did NOT need to have Ripley. If you was ever to Explore Ripley again it has to be Ripley 8
To get around her AGE... you simply have TWO OPTIONS with the AID of CGI.
1) Ripley 8 will begin to Degrade and Age at a Rapid Rate... and maybe some Company/Faction could OFFER to HELP find some Cure to HALT this Process but they Ultimately want to Extract her Xenomorph DNA. You would then ONLY need a Few Scenes to make her look Younger, before then you can go to using Miss Weaver how she looks now. Her Xenomorph DNA removed.... which Halts her Aging but she looses her Powers that she had from the Xeno-DNA.
2) She begins to CHANGE into more of a Hybrid where her Xeno-DNA starts to Overwrite her Human-DNA. Again you have a CGI Overlay to make her look Younger and then CGI/Practical Effects to make her more ALIEN.
But in REALITY.... i think its BEST to leave what Happens to her Next a Mystery.
XenotarisPraetorianMember4251 XPOct-14-2022 11:36 AM
I like option 2, having Ripley 8 metamorph into becoming more xenomorph-like could invoke some good ol HR Giger vibes
Xeno1OvomorphMember15 XPMar-09-2023 6:04 PM
Ridley Scott went to Disney, farted , pouted, said he made them and many millions and that he won't allow another Ripleys story arc ... screw the fans , I'm still sore from Cameron overtaking my masterpiece .. you all allowed this to happen... no fans get together anymore and demand what the fans want so we have no say..
XenotarisPraetorianMember4251 XPMar-09-2023 10:59 PM
Oh great another Its all James Cameron fault fan. Without Cameron, ALIEN would have faded in to obscurity