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2011 Damon Lindelof Prometheus Script Rewrite Ties to Comics, Books, and Film

2011 Damon Lindelof Prometheus Script Rewrite Ties to Comics, Books, and Film

Ingeniero

Apr-05-2018 7:50 AM

2011 Damon Lindelof Prometheus Script Rewrite Ties to Comics, Books, and Film

Early development began on a fifth Alien film in 2002, with the participation of James Cameron and Sigourney Weaver, was then stalled when Cameron found out that 20th Century Fox planned the crossover film Alien vs. Predator. Cameron was working with a different writer on this Alien film and four years later in 2006 he confirmed he would not return to develop further Alien sequels. This, in part, seemed due to creative differences with the producers of the upcoming Alien films.

By 2009, 20th Century Fox was considering a new angle with the franchise and began to discuss a prequel with Ridley Scott. Conflict began when Carl Erik Rinsch was selected to direct the Alien prequel film. During the Summer of 2009, Ridley Scott was under contract to direct the Alien prequel film. Jon Spaihts announced in June of 2010 that the script was complete and that pre-production would move forward with filming scheduled for January of 2011. 

Ridley Scott contacted Damon Lindelof that same month and requested a review of the concepts included. Four months later, Damon Lindelof provided a rewritten script/screenplay to 20th Century Fox with many elements remaining from Jon Saihts’ script and refinements of his own. By December 2010, the film was to be called Paradise.

Ridley Scott communicated that this title would give too much insight into the direction of the film series he planned and another name change took place. Ridley Scott and Damon Lindelof confirmed in June 2011 the name of the film, Prometheus.

Background sources for above analysis provided: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_(2012_film)

http://www.indiewire.com/2015/11/damon-lindelof-explains-how-and-why-he-reworked-the-prometheus-script-so-it-wasnt-a-direct-alien-prequel-106018/

The below analysis is based on a Prometheus draft from March 2011 found on this site (source). The entire text from each video's narration is provided in the "Description" field underneath.

Thank you for your time.

 

Shaw and Holloway are looking at the S.E.T.I. type message transmitter David operates

 

David performing experiments with Engineer mutagen on the Prometheus

"David brings out a tray with TWO DEAD and frozen MICE and puts the tray under a SCANNING DEVICE. David injects one MOUSE with half the substance and sprays the substance on the other MOUSE. He then closes the SCANNING DEVICE LID and walks over to the monitor. The MONITOR SHOWS A SPLIT SCREEN. AND ONE EACH SCREEN IS THE MICE. The MOUSE David INJECTED EXPLODES. DAVID MARVELS at what he is looking at. He reads the scanning report out loud." 

Hieroglyphs in the Green Substance on Panel

 

The Deacon’s Blood The Signal on LV-426 that Peter Weyland was Aware of in Hypersleep

"WEYLAND

And what did you learn from it?

DAVID

Some of their history, sir. It appears that these beings can live up to three hundred thousand years old. They use to be able to mate with each other just like humans. But somewhere in their late history they evolved and lost the ability to both mate and reproduce. But before they did they found a creature that impregnated one of them with a foreign body. A creature came from him. They called it the Deacon.

They worshiped this deacon and after it's death they used its blood to plant the seeds of life on other worlds. The blood ran out of course but they tried to recreate the gene pool of this Deacon's bloodbut they instead created something else. That is what I brought back with me, sir. WEYLAND Then find out what it is and what it does. This may be the only chance I have.

has any of the crew found out about the signal my team picked up from the nearby moon?"

 

David hears Engineers speak of Eden and Space Jockey

"ENGINEER 2

Is everything ready for our journey to Eden?

ENGINEER 1

Yes. There is another thing. One of our vessels that left had a malfunction. The vessel was settled down on the next moon. We have placed it on quarantine

ENGINEER 2

What happened?

ENGINEER 1

Whilst checking cargo two he was attacked by the planet seeders and thought not to tell anyone. He shall give birth to a seeder within the next hour.

ENGINEER 2

Nothing we can do for him now. We shall continue our journey to Eden and provoke them with rapture thus turning it back to Eden once more. The entire PLATFORM is engulfed with HOLOGRAPHIC IMAGERY. The ENGINEERS Holographic technology is similar but somehow more advanced. The HOLOGRAPHIC IMAGE shows the RINGED GAS GIANT, ACHERON and it's three small PLANETOIDS."

Peter Weyland enters the Engineer Juggernaut Cargo Hold

 

Fifield and Millburn find a large pile of deceased and EXPLODED Engineers

 

David Interprets the First Deacon Mural on LV-223 for the Prometheus Team

 

Probes arrive on LV-223 in 2090 sent by the Prometheus

 

Janek, "You know what this place is? Hell."

 

David Reads the Bible Dr. Shaw Gave Him

 "SHAW

So did you read it?

DAVID

Read what miss Shaw?

SHAW

The book I gave you

DAVID

You mean the bible? Yes I did

SHAW So. . What did you think?

DAVID Well it was very well written.

It's an amazing insight into the imagination of people over two thousand years ago

SHAW Didn't you understand the message it was trying to give us all?

DAVID

Yes I understood but it's unfortunate that most you people never understood the message. I also read all Religious texts from all religions worldwide and what I found interesting. Well ironic is the fact that the majority of religious believers don't even follow the rules of their gods and use it as an excuse to kill and hate each other.

If I were your God I Wouldn't be too pleased to see what you people Had done with the place after I gave it too you."

 

David Waking the Engineer with Peter Weyland and the Prometheus Crew

 

Fifield Arrives at the Prometheus Ship after visiting the Engineer Pyramid

 

6 Responses to 2011 Damon Lindelof Prometheus Script Rewrite Ties to Comics, Books, and Film

Ingeniero

Apr-05-2018 10:28 AM

Good job Kroft talks about Movies!

King Goo

Apr-10-2018 7:20 AM

I heard this script is a fan made... Not an official one. True ?  

BigDave

Apr-11-2018 6:11 AM

This draft has been discussed a few times before, while it offers some depth, it does kind of contradict a few clues in Prometheus, there are also a number of mistakes....

This draft has NEVER been officially acknowledged by Lindeloff, it has been suspected as a FAN EDIT and i think this is 90% likely the case.

HOWEVER.... it does offer some good expansion to the Story, it is kind of not how i interpreted Prometheus, but with the arrival of Alien Covenant and the Advent Viral, these maybe do match this Drafts Take on Prometheus rather than my OWN take.

I do still feel this Draft is Fake... but it has some interesting things to debate

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

Apr-11-2018 6:51 AM

I will however discus the videos you have made Ingeneiro

Hieroglyphs in the Green Substance on Panel

There certainly appeared to be something in the Goo on the Control Panel, Nano Particles at least, it was hard to make out if there are any Hieroglyphs however.... But David found the substance interesting, and we get the impression this was more than just a Slime...

While there is NO definite Evidence of Hieroglyphs we can maybe go back to Lindeloff's idea's/clues (in the Officially Acknowledged draft) which with the scene where they arrive at the Panel, Lindeloff begins to hint to us that David sees something the others dont, eventually he touches up on this more... and its a explanation of Jon Spaights ideas that the Engineers and David can see things in the air/around Technology that are like Hieroglyphs the Engineers manipulate but these are invisible to Human Eye... But Watts (Shaw) in Spaights draft gets to see them after she adapts a Space Jockey Suit/Engineer Lens.

So the idea was that around the Technology Control Panels were Characters/Hieroglyphs  that act like some Advanced Input Device, like a Keyboard but the Characters are suspended floating around the Control Panels... that can be manipulated by the Engineers.

So going back to Prometheus, we can see to pull this kind of Special Effect off, may have been a bit hard... and so replacing it with a GOO that has something inside it that controls the Panels is very Logical and so indeed Hieroglyphs or at very least something that is used to interact and activate the Engineers Technology is very likely.

Janek, "You know what this place is? Hell."

The 2011 Fake Draft adds a few words of Dialog to help explain what Janek was talking about, my Prometheus Re-write i did the same kind of thing very close actually, by adding few words here and there to lessen the Ambiguity....   But going only by Prometheus and Lindeloffs confirmed draft..

Indeed the dialog of Janek between Vickers and then Shaw, is providing us more clues/answers than we see visually, a key with Prometheus always was not what we see... but taking note of Character Dialog as they are providing the answers and we need to read into them.

So indeed this Place was used to Manufacture and Test that Black Goo, well certainly at some period in Time it become a place to Test/Create this Biological Warfare.... until  one day something may have accidentally got spilled....  but there are clues to suggest maybe Sabotage or even a Direct Attempt to Stop what they was doing may have happened.

I WILL ATTEMPT to look at all the videos...

I will add i looked at one of the videos posted explaining the Space Jockey, and the 13 Foot Unsuited and 15ft Suited Engineers.... Lindeloffs official Draft the Engineers are described at 12 Feet Plus, there is no Mention of 13ft....  they was referred to as 15ft in Jon Spaights Alien Engineers. Lindeloff had commented before about how the intentions where a taller race, but that got revised down to 9-10ft tall as of prior to Shooting etc.

The 13-15ft is a good size guide for the Space Jockey, many years ago i had a detailed look and compared scale of the Space Jockey Prop and i concluded the Space Jockey was likely 13ft Tall, no more than 15ft Tops as the Prop Length inc Chair was just over 16ft.   Maybe thats where the 13-15ft came from? If the Fan who Edited the Draft had came across discussions on here ;)

However with Alien Engineers 15ft Race and Paradises 12ft + its safe to assume the Original Idea was a 12-15ft Ball Park.... which Sadly due to RS not wanting to use any Effects.... pulling off and fooling us to think the Engineers are 12-15ft to match the Space Jockey was just not feasible... In Hindsight Ridley Scott could have used the same trickery we saw in the HOBBIT and LORD OF THE RINGS Franchises.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

Apr-11-2018 7:36 AM

Fifield and Millburn find a large pile of deceased and EXPLODED Engineers

As far as i am aware.... Lindeloffs Acknowledged draft does not have a explanation of the scene where Milburn and Fifield discover the piles of Bodies... the apparent Fan Edit touches on the scene in the movie and adds a few extra words...  i also began to add a few to my Re-write that was not to dissimilar to what this Fan Edit has.. (i was emphasizing on the suits appearing to be Hollow).

So the Fan Edit adds a few lines...  but also adds some that make it certain its a Fan Edit

"FIFIELD What do you think caused them to explode? Predator canons?"

But back to the subject of those Engineers, indeed they were pilled up and as they said like some kind of Holocaust painting, i had detailed my view on this scene and earlier Engineer Body a long time ago.

Looking at the Exploding Head, the Sacrificial Scene and Shaws comments about Ebola... and noticing some of the suits appeared Hollow, it was my conclusion the Engineers had been infected with the Black Goo, and this substance was breaking them down like the Sacrificial Engineer... to a degree...

The Sacrificial Engineer Scene we see his body breaks down, the substance causes a Violent Reaction... If this Engineer was inside a Space Jockey Suit the Violent Reaction and Chemical Soup that becomes of the Engineer would be contained within the Pressured Container that is the Space Jockey Suit. 

If we look at this as how a Minto is put into Cola and causes a Reaction and Build up of Gas... this Gas tries to escape by what ever means it can... any flaws in the Bottle... so a Cap not on tight, any Holes in the Bottle that are covered up by say Chewing Gum/Glue or Tape.. would eventually give way to the pressure inside and the Liquid explodes from these defects/holes.

I think THIS is what causes those Engineer Suits to have those Holes. Within context to Prometheus.... Fast Forwards to Alien Covenant and we see those Engineers being attacked by the Black Goo and imagine if there bodies eventually disintegrated instead of turn to like STONE and we can imagine such a Reaction Contained in the Space Jockey Suits would cause the Black Goo to explode.. and the Engineers bodies inside to be NO MORE...

A thing to consider is these Engineer Bodies had maybe been worked on as part of Jon Spaights Draft, where the Bodies where to show some had suffered Chest Buster Wounds and others Wounds caused by Adult Stage Chest Busters...

But Prometheus had a different route with the Black Goo and the Props were Empty inside (makes them lighter and less material used) and the Empty suits fits nice with the Black Goo especially if the end result would be similar to what remained of the Sacrificial Engineer.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Ingeniero

Apr-14-2018 4:50 PM

Hello King Goo. I'm sorry I missed your topic on this script just months ago that covered so much of the main script concepts. I was most excited about the link to LV-426. 

You are so accommodating BigDave. Thank you. I went back and researched a little and you had covered this back in 2013 going forward a few times. 

I noticed the quote regarding the "predator" canons and I thought it might be attributed to an early draft of the script Lindelof wrote before Scott's frowned on any Predator mention. And you're certainly correct regarding a lack of confirmation from Lindelof on the script authenticity. 

 

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