Garden01 The eden tree

To deepen the theme, I looked for clues about the lost paradise of John Milton, of which we know the road traveled by Ridley on the construction of AC, the important element for us in this theme is the domestic vicissitudes of Adam and Eve to the tree of Eden , the photos found are tremendously similar to the screenshot in question.
Good vision

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That whole story is interesting. The whole Adam and Eve thing is a biblical story for the faithful but I took it in a different way. Not to insult anyone, but I saw the snake as one who was offering knowledge while God appeared to be the one setting Adam and Eve up for failure by placing them in an almost impossible situation. Loyalty- not enlightenment- seemed more important. I saw the snake as the good guy even though it meant God's wrath. At least the snake was honest.

David was a little different though. When charisma failed, he would use treachery. If he has an axe to grind, it seems to be with his creator- who was killed, so the point seems moot. 

What is the forbidden fruit here- the black goo, knowledge/wisdom?

Nice topic. I try to stay away from subjects like this, but there it is.

Nice Catch, and yes you could look at it like that V I N E T I C U M

Certainly would have been interesting to see those themes of Paradise Lost Explored.... The Source i had claimed the Garden of Eden is loosely connected including the Tree (Obelisk)

I certainly have a Forbidden Tree/Fruit in my Alien Covenant sequel plans... i just dont quite know how to have it play out, as i have 3-4 ideas.... two really good, but its could i Plug this Thing more than once/twice in a story and get away with it?   Certainly the Belly-Burster will stay ;)

Guys I thought I had made a hole in the water.
Thanks for support.
  dk  the fruit of eden in this case is the temptation of free will that is strengthened by the ideology of engineers on the planet, what I mean: i try to not to get too far away from the topic but to think of it engineers are like monks who have refused life of comfort derived from technology and any other function that would lead them to sin, an original form of humanoid life in the primitive state, David is the only one who instead becomes an esthete by gaining their knowledge and not depriving himself of any temptation.
the apple of Eden can also be identified as David's deepened passion for Shaw with the tomb built by him, with emotion and with the anniversary-style sound sitting in his twilight.
the approach and then transcend highlighting the friendship of Walter to Daniels explaining that it is love, noting that on several occasions he always comes to her, it will be a case because she became a captain or there is really a link between the two.

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thanks for everything :D

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Well, Milton said that it was better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven. Maybe David feels cast out by Weyland as Lucifer did with God?

good observation, I think that David has always lived alone fundamentally, since first of all his father called it a creation machine and the appearance of a son was far from having his compassion, a bit like the pharaoh against Moses , was his adopted son, but it was not in any way comparable to his son Ramses, although things worked Moses brought with him a humanity unlike his family and here I like to think that it was David to bring with him his humanity founded on life and creation, in the end the trick is does not want it to hurt

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Interesting. Weyland announced that David was sort of like a son but not quite since David was an android. David does not- so we think- experience emotions as humans, but that announcement at least seemed to cause some dissonance in his brain/mind. 

I am not familiar with Ranes but know that Moses raised the adopted son pretty much as his own bonafied son. Sorry my Catechism is rusty beyond repair.

Now I am wondering who in the Alien franchise would be Moses if we are relating it to Old Testament terms. 

 I know it may seem like a strange comparison ,maybe this is too much,but the concept is i think RS wants to portray David as as a Villain that pursues his purpose making it fascinating , but he also wants to make it a sort of Lucifer as you said , so behind the his character is a deeper morality , if Roy Batty was a rebel looking for life for himself and his companions, David on the contrary is looking for life to be generated , looking for virtue

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David could become some sort of anti hero in a strange way. It could be very interesting. That dynamic is fine, but it should also connect to Alien- that is what a prequel is supposed to do imo.

V I N E T I C U M  I know it may seem like a strange comparison ,maybe this is too much

LOL! Actually, this general idea has been around here since the build up to Prometheus(not to negate your input by any means) and that subject matter is well documented especially just prior to AC. I think ideas like this are most of the spirit of what keeps this forum going :)

I appreciate your thread. Thank you!

thank you dk
very happy much for being here with you

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It is interesting how an outlook can evolve. I used to be all in with Xeno and still am in some ways, and hated the other direction RS took with Prometheus and David in some but not all ways. David is a fascinating character. I think there should be some balance. We cannot ignore the Xeno origins but the David/Engineer story arc seems more appealing these days. 

I agree on the inconsistencies of Prometheus, but in the end I loved it, a thriller with an ambitious charm, this makes it pleasant to every vision, while AC is a succession of events that finally begin to savor the first thematic line of the Xenon , these are my opinions, but I agree on the division of the public for those who liked it and for those who do not, this because I believe that in both films we had a decided script, over time things are going to improve and sometimes change course, leaving parts of previous and new screenplay by fusing an extravagant mix.
Fortunately RS is the best in this field and knows how to generate high-quality films, so AC in my opinion over time can become a piece much more important than it is now.
I'll tell you a secret I was uncertain about the sequel Alien 5 review the same formula of Aliens 2 but revisited with aged protagonists would make it all beautiful but repetitive perhaps.
Blomkamp is one of the directors I admire, his science fiction films have strong bonds with the ground, they are never airborne, but I am more pleased to see the origin of the xenon than to see an innovative formula for Alien 5.
Engineers are fascinating tremendous, the mystery behind them makes it a great mix to raise an entire prequel franchise Alien1979.

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If you want to experience a proper follow up to Alien, play Alien Isolation. I cannot stress it enough. If you are not a gamer, seek a You Tube playthrough and watch. 

Yes, I heard about it , I'll listen to your advice to try it on console  ;) 

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Play it. It is brutal and exhausting. I cannot say it enough. It took me more than a month to beat with work and all. There were times I hesitated playing because I was almost too scared to play. No joke.

really good.
the last time I tried this like you, it was the days of the saga of DEAD SPACE : P

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Ah- Dead Space 1 and 2 are fantastic! 3 maybe not so much.

dk agree as a brother.
the dead space 3 was well done in the script of the game, I find it very fascinating, the damned mistake was turning it into a zombie shooter, combined with the appearance of fanatical unitology soldiers.
I hope so much in a 4th prequel episode or sequel of the saga that can redeem the great sci-fi horror charm.

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DS 3 was kind of crappy- I even pre ordered it. The Unitology Soldiers seemed like rejects from Resident Evil 4. The space scenes were pretty good but the rest felt like a shooter- that is what survival horror franchises seem to become eventually. I doubt we will see a DS4. But those first 2 are works of art imo.