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Hitler's favorite painter Covenant

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Alliecaulfield

Oct-26-2017 8:16 PM

Recently watched Covenant again, something struck me while watching. At 1.07.38. There is an almost exact copy of Arnold Bocklin's painting "isle of the dead". Discuss?

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dk

Oct-27-2017 12:59 AM

Oh this? Yes, this has been discussed before but I do not recall a Hitler reference.

I Raptus

Oct-27-2017 1:16 AM

Welcome Alliecaulfield

if it the image dk has posted, Ati's thread here has the answers you seek. That would certainly be an interesting twist to Davids sanctum if there is a link. 

Cerulean Blue

Oct-27-2017 7:34 AM

Well, one could make a case that David is Hitler's Aryan dream?  The Teutonic Robotic Prince of the Power of the Air!!!

Alliecaulfield

Oct-27-2017 10:11 AM

Thanks everyone who responded. Doesn't surprise me someone caught this before. As someone who's new here, you guys are through. dk, goggle Hitler's favourite painter. That's where I got it. Thanks again everybody.

Ati

Oct-27-2017 11:59 AM

Giger’s Homage to Bocklin after Bocklin’s Isle of the Dead (1977):

Bocklin's art was liked by many people, artists, etc. For example, Giger liked his works as well. I'm sure the Hitler factor had no role in the making of Alien Covenant.

It's funny but I've found a photo showing a small island in Montenegro (Europe) which is very similar to this island on the painting. I'm trying to find it again.

 

Ati

Oct-27-2017 12:01 PM

Wayne Haag’s Terrace with Garden - concept art for Alien Covenant:

Ati

Oct-27-2017 12:03 PM

IRaptus - Thank you for the link to my thread.

Ati

Oct-27-2017 12:48 PM

And some images of the small island in Montenegro mentioned above:

'Montenegro, Perast, St George Island Kotor Bay'

I Raptus

Oct-27-2017 3:00 PM

^ can I live there please Ati. Beautiful spot 

Ati

Oct-27-2017 4:11 PM

IRaptus - Anything you want. :D

More images of Montenegro and a map just for you. :D

James Bond Casino Royale's second half was shot in Montenegro.

http://jamesbond.wikia.com/wiki/Montenegro

Batchpool

Oct-27-2017 5:00 PM

Although Hitler did acquire a version of Isle of the Dead, I am more inclined to believe that there is more of a link to Sergie Rachmaninov: The Isle of the Dead, symphonic poem, Opus 29.

 

Wiki quote:

 The music begins by suggesting the sound of the oars as they meet the waters on the way to the Isle of the Dead. The slowly heaving and sinking music could also be interpreted as waves. Rachmaninoff uses a recurring figure in 5/8 time to depict what may be the rowing of the oarsman or the movement of the water, and as in several other of his works, quotes the Dies Irae plainchant, an allusion to death. In contrast to the theme of death, the 5/8 time also depicts breathing, creating a holistic reflection on how life and death are intertwined.

 

I do believe the interpretation within the context of AC does open up a couple of possibilities, deliberate or accidental as to the full contextual use, and that Rachmaninov was one of Hitlers favourite composers.

Rachmaninov: Isle of the Dead, opus 29

I Raptus

Oct-28-2017 2:07 AM

A truly beautiful part of the world Ati. Dubrovnik in Croatia if definitely on my list of places I must visit, Ill have to add Montenegro too!!! 

I have family on Kefalonia (Greece) I have to visit one day. Make a big trip of it I think!!

 

Scrib

Oct-28-2017 4:31 AM

Art references..

https://vimeo.com/228756074

Ati

Oct-28-2017 7:07 PM

IRaptus - 'I have family on Kefalonia (Greece)'

Greece? I envy you. :)

Walking on the map I added in the previous comment, don't forget to visit these places/cities when you are here:

The Croatian coastline:

Portofino, Italy:

The capital of Hungary, Budapest:

The capital of Austria, Vienna:

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