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Engineer power

Engineer power

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Dark Nebula

XenomorphStaff1176 XPOct-22-2017 2:16 PM

Sources: Fire and stone/ Life and death comics by DarkHorse comics.

Prometheus 2012 film.

Engineer strength, skills, and durability.

Weyland's men dead by Engineer's single punches

Kills Ford by delivering a fatal blow to her chest and throws Jackson against the wall, breaks his back in two.

Grabs and throws a predator in far distance

Breaking predator's arm and joints

Crushing a human skull like a tomato

And steel

Engineer kills xenomorphs with bare hands

And a giant bull-like creature

Engineer weapons, armor, and durability

Large pink rifle

Engineer rifle held by human Galgo throughout the comics

Other weapons, armor, and durabilities

Engineer pressure suit withstands predator plasma cannon

And hi-tech shotgun

Gets shot by a harpoon and stabbed to the wall, rips it off.

Engineer vs Xenomorph Queen

Winner:

Still, no effect...

41 Responses to Engineer power

BigDave

DeaconMember10358 XPMar-03-2018 4:11 PM

(would not post the other day so posting here)

EDIT:  Just looked and quickly done some rough scale work, and i estimate the Engineer Head to belong to a 8.5ft Tall Engineer maybe pushing near 9ft Tops.

My average actual estimate using various views and relation to a few cast members is 8ft 9" approx.

@Ignorantguy

I would be up for that ;)

Imagine some kind of HR Giger/Engineer Bio-Mechanical Combat Suit/Tank Mechanized Armour?

Now that would be very interesting..... maybe something for Ridley Scotts War of the Worlds Alien Franchise plans?

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Dark Nebula

XenomorphStaff1176 XPMar-03-2018 4:46 PM

I don't have the best eyesight...

According to the production crew, the mummified engineer corpses in the plaza were all supposed to be 7-8ft.

Because most of the corpses were lying on their knees, differently arranged, and of different camera angles a lot of people concluded they are human-scaled.

In Prometheus, the Engineer actors were 7ft+ tall, and they used different camera angles and other tricks to make them look bigger.

And let's bring an end to the Engineer height war.

ignorantGuy

ChestbursterMember900 XPMar-03-2018 11:04 PM

@BigDave

I was only making fun of the fist fighting antics presented in the comics ...

But in all seriousness I feel that the Engineers would rather use something more akin to Protoss dragoons and stalkers from Starcraft than tanks. I mean war machines made by fusing a disabled/volunteering soldier to a mechanical contraption, like a Gigeresque sphinx.

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPMar-04-2018 12:44 AM

Dark Nebula It appears the Engieneer is drinking Tranya?

Dark Nebula

XenomorphStaff1176 XPMar-04-2018 1:59 PM

*gets a closer look*

From what I can tell, by the design of the bottle and the color of the fluid, looks like he's drinking Gatorade drink *shrugs*

Or some similar drink.

BigDave

DeaconMember10358 XPMar-05-2018 2:22 AM

"And let's bring an end to the Engineer height war"

Certainly think we have to agree and accept a smaller height, it is kind of interesting they gave us the 7-7.5ft (depends on Human working on the Sculpture next to it )Tall Engineer Anatomical Study which puts that Engineer at about the same height as Ian Whyte's Engineer.   Because at least it gives us something thats not contradictory to Prometheus... because well to build a exact scale Replica of the Prometheus Set (Pilot Room) the Cryo-Pods are suited for 7.5ft tall beings, so making larger ones so that Dr Shaw looked small inside in the Crossing would have meant a Larger Scale than Prometheus.

The various Engineer Bodies in the Plaza depending on shots, seemed to show some appeared to be about Human Height so 6ft Ball Park, some seemed maybe 6.5-7ft.... but there was a few shots where some appeared to be about 8ft tall.

And the Interesting thing with the Planet 4 Engineers is the Actual Live Action Scene showed us they had varying heights, what appeared to be Females, and maybe younger Engineers and some with slightly different skin tones.

This could be why RS mentioned about how there are many version of us (Mankind) why cant there be many versions of them...   I think this comment does not have to be about the LV-223 Engineers vs Planet 4 ones... it could be..

But it could also apply to how Humans come in different sizes and skin tones and so WHY NOT the Engineers.

So indeed i think as far as Engineers we have seen goes, it seems we have been clearly shown these beings maybe have a Female Height of 6-6.5ft and a Male of 7-8ft and so indeed the Average Engineer would indeed be about the 7ft mark or just over, so Ian Whyte would actually be your typical Average Engineer... like a say a Guy Pearce is about average Male Human Height.

We could still have the issue regarding the Space Jockeys 13-15ft Actual Height, but this could just have to be accepted as a Oversight..

But we could be introduced to a related Race who are taller, or maybe as we Humans can have a few who are 7ft to 8 ft tall, then why cant the Engineers have some 12ft tall folk too.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

DeaconMember10358 XPMar-05-2018 2:32 AM

@ignorantGuy

Still is a interesting point though.... we really dont know for sure what kind of Defensive Technology these beings posses..

Alien Engineers they appeared to have some kind of Devices that threw out like a Invisible Force that would take out opponents, some kind of Energy/Anti Gravity Weapon that basically allows them to attack opponents like a Jedi/Sith kind of Force Push attack.

Prometheus and Alien Covenant appears to show us these guys dont appear to have any Weaponry at all apart from the Black Goo, which again i ponder is actually not intended as a Bio-Weapon, just that it has been used as such.

The Comics show they have Weapons... and we have to ask is it a bit odd such a Advanced Species have never invented or used any kind of Weaponry in its past?

So indeed it allows our imaginations to run, and certainly Bio-Mechanical Walkers like the AT-ST/AT-ST in Star Wars etc would be interesting.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Dark Nebula

XenomorphStaff1176 XPMar-08-2018 2:27 PM

Those Engineer anti-gravity gloves from Alien: Engineers are indeed interesting, maybe they were designed for specific tasks. For example, carrying and placing ovomorphs/urns without disturbing them so they remain intact. And they might come handy in combat.

I can imagine a scenario where a xenomorph jumps from above to attack the Engineer only to be stopped in mid-air and snapped like a twig by the Engineer who wears these gloves.

BigDave

DeaconMember10358 XPMar-08-2018 2:55 PM

"maybe they were designed for specific tasks."

Absolutely....  the Engineers were basically Ancient Alien Theory... a lot of people question how the Pyramids could be moved by Ancient Man and so Aliens did it lol

Edward Leedskalnin's  CORAL CASTLE etc  was a like Garden of many Stone Buildings and Arrangements that he positioned all on his own, and some QUESTION how?

Theories are did he gain Knowledge of the Ancients, like what the Egyptians used, or Knowledge from Aliens/Gods.  Some speculate he moved the Stones using some kind of Anti-Gravity and Magnetic Device.

So Certainly the Engineer Power Gauntlets could be similar,  i actually like the CONCEPT/IDEA that the Engineers maybe had NO WEAPONS  well not really.

But their Technology that allows them to Move Objects, Create Great Monuments could be used as a Weapon like we see in Alien Engineers.  and once again their Terra-forming Technologies could affect a Worlds Climate and Poles and thus could be used as a Weapon... just as Persay the GREAT FLOOD was used as a Weapon.

The Clues in Prometheus/Alien Covenant had led me to ponder the Juggernaughts and Urns/Goo are just a Creation Tool for Seeding Worlds... But a Tool that has devastating outcomes..  "sometimes to create one must first destroy"

And so any Seeding Technology that can Evolve/Create Life, that is infected with a Organism with Parasitical Tendencies could be used as a Bio-Weapon.

So indeed maybe the Engineers do not have Weapons as such, because they feel NO-NEED for them...   Because they simply feel that their Creations will pose NO THREATS..

It is still Logical to think at some time these beings had been more Ancient like our Ancestors... so they needed some Weapons to HUNT for Food.   Like Ancient Mankind,  and maybe at some point they had conflict with some in their own RACE which leads to Evolution of Weapons... like Ancient Mankinds Creation of the Sword and Shield and then the Evolution of Weapons from this.

Unless... there is some RACE above the Engineers who passed on what was needed, and then we have to ask would such a Race who created the Engineers not have any kind of Weaponry?

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Thoughts_Dreams

NeomorphMember1643 XPMar-11-2018 3:24 AM

"And let's bring an end to the Engineer height war."

I bet that topic will be brought up again some time.

Dark Nebula: A humans versus xenos versus Engineers could work, it depends on how you do it. A problem is tat many ave their own opinions so it is a thing were people are divided. Hopefully we will have more Engineers in the next movie. As far as canon they should keep Alien 1 to 3 otherwise it would suck.

BigDave

DeaconMember10358 XPMar-11-2018 9:38 AM

Indeed the whole War of the Worlds comment by RS was interesting, it would kind of be a conflict with the Alien Time-line especially in Aliens on-wards....  which got me worried RS may have considered Re-booting the Franchise after Alien?

The Engineer Height War i think can be put to bed by showing us they are a race who are 25% Taller than Humans,  but i really hope they can show us something different with the Space Jockey by introducing a Taller 10-12ft Race.  This Certainly gives us Humans, Engineers and another related Giant Race to bring into a War of the Worlds...  Throw in various Xenomorph related Organisms and it could be a recipe for something interesting.

But this maybe is stuff that would work better in a Game or Comics than a Movie Series?

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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