Youtube video mourns the death of HR Giger's monster and all that it stood for

Hmm. Very interesting points. My take away is that the author thinks Alien should have been a stand alone movie and I could agree with that. I cannot recall offhand another series with so many sequels to where the original premise doesn't get diluted. Case in point- I think Pitch Black would have been great if they never made any sequels. Another part is a studio's desire to capitalize on a good thing.

Thanks for sharing- that was a good video.

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dk I think it also makes the point that the franchise lost its way.

joylitt Maybe, but in 1979, I don't think they made the movie with a future in mind. Movies are bound to lose their way especially when different writers and directors come and go.

Interesting video.

I think it is way to earlier to draw conclusions about the prequels.  This video is very premature and short-sighted.  The prequels are not finished and we are just going to have to wait till Alien: Awakening comes out for us the reach our decision if the Xeno has "died".

In Alien: Covenant, we just got David's perspective.  There were no Engineers in Alien: Covenant to share the knowledge of the Xeno.  I think the author of the video is wrong in saying that the Xeno is a manifestation of defiance against the human race from a rogue android.  We don't know why the Engineers created the black goo or the Xeno or if they created the Xeno.  

In the A:C novel, the Engineers made the Xeno.  In the movie, it's not spoon fed to us and is a bit ambiguous.

There is one piece that can make the prequels story a death of the Xeno or the creation of everything the Xeno originally stood for.  That piece is the Engineers knowledge.  All the knowledge we have of Engineers is based off of theories and assumptions.  We do have some proof of facts related to the Engineers, but those don't relate with the pieces of the story that everyone is concerned with.

The whole point of the prequels was to learn about the alien in the chair from the original 1979 Alien; yet, we are being introduced to the life of all the Engineers, not just the 1979 one, very slowly and without much of a trace of an alive Engineer.  I would expect that the space jockey's that we discovered in 1979 and stunningly reintroduced to us in 2012 with make a return alive and well.  Hopefully, then, we will learn of the true origins of the Xeno and the black goo instead of just backlash from a envious android, which is still an interesting story relevant to our times.

I Moon Girl The good thing is that like with any classic monster, it can be reborn. Too bad Ridley rejected his own baby. He could have made it legendary again. 

@joylitt

Prometheus was a fantastic movie.  No Xeno, but I never cared.

I Moon Girl Prometheus was alright. All the legacy of that movie was dumped already in a very brutal way.

They could've made the Xeno mysterious (at least partially) again by moving it's origins away from the Engineers and humans. To a source even the Engineers are afraid of. 

As for the sexual themes... hmm... I don't think they would work nowadays like they did in the late 70ties. Because ppl are kinda "over saturated" by modern media, today. Horror, Sex etc, available anytime if you want. 

Less pseudo intellectual mumbo jumbo and more oomph might help as well. ;)

Tiwaz Agree. There should be some mystery left to the imagination. Part of sci fi is to engage the imagination. We seem to be at an age where everyone wants answers, have them explained to the nth degree and can research it on the internet.

I also agree that the dark sexual themes aren't what they were back in the late 70s. Back then, a lot was left to the imagination and today things are pretty accessible. To be fair, I am old and jaded, so I can't be sure how Alien would be viewed by a tween now.

Good riddance Mr. Xeno, but sincerely they should have not prolonged your suffering for 31 years.

Yeah...Giger's monster died in 1986......it was just a scared and hungry drone on the Nostromo..probably frightened by the surroundings....you'd probably freak out too if you woke on a strange alien spacecraft.

The Xeno is clearly humanoid..2 arms..2 legs..looks like a human. Not a frog, goat or a fish. Intelligent design? Who made it and why?

Could you feed a Xeno a cow and it would be happy and maybe become your friend? Or is it programmed to kill only humans/humaoids?

How long do Facehuggers last? 5 days? a week? how do they survive in pods/eggs? How do they eat? where do they get their nourishment? Does the blue laser light feed them? or keep them alive? is it a trigger to bring them out of hibernation? ?

It would make sense, if some ancient civilization hated the Engineers and wanted them dead and created these Xeno's to kill humanoids and humans just got in the way. But are the Engineers really stupid enough to stick their face in a pod...seems like a crazy way to attack your enemy. Just nuke their planet and be done with it.

Something like David creating them make even more sense...he can easily wipe out as many humans as he wants....This way he kills 2 birds with one stone...David gets to create life and in turn, that life kills humans...PERFECT!

Wonder if David will create a synthetic facehugger(spacehugger) or even a bio/synthetic Xeno?

Interesting video! Definitely food for thought for the whole franchise.

Tiwaz i like your line about "less pseudo intelligent mumbo jumbo". It does seem that RS has replaced the art of true mystery for psuedo intelligent ambiguity and overt symbolism. 

 IRaptus I bet that in your profile pic is the bad guy from "Wolf Creek"

joylitt it is indeed. John Jarrett is touring NSW at the moment as an ambassador for asbestos awareness and doing public and greets. Im going tomorrow to meet him XD

Now that you are seeing him I hope you can talk him into using his tracking skills and bowie knife in hunting down so called android David. All travel expenses paid, there's a big $$$$$$$$$$$ reward for his head plus a full pardon for previous depraved criminal activities. But he has make it back to Earth with that fucker's head before the next Alien movie starts shooting!

joylitt

He should not forget to wear an environmental protection suit... for you know, black spores. And please do no not engage him in a fist fight because he will mos def make a switcharoo on you.

red0guy And have a mint in case he tries to french kiss you.

joylitt

And try not have things with holes on you as he will try to finger them!

Or the opposite of it. Bring something with holes so alluring that while he is busy fingering them, you get the chance to disconnect him.