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ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianSep-03-2017 1:28 PM

While i must admit I'm more than a little biased,the Alien franchise is probably the only film franchise I like all films front to back(i'm NOT counting the Alien vs. Predator movies.)I've grown up as a long time fan with Aliens being what got me hooked(it's my all time favorite movie.)Own a bunch of the kenner action figures from my youth.Saw Alien Resurrection at the tender age of 7 in theaters.While i don't care much for the film now as i previously stated,summer 2004 was a great summer for me who was 14 at the time,everyone had all there eyes on Spider Man2(it's a much better movie any way lol)Aliens and predators finally fighting on the big screen was a dream come true,even if the results were mediocre at best.The announcement of Prometheus(loved then and still love now)was what truly had my attention in 2012.Once again the world had there eyes on super hero films like the Avengers(if be honest,i don't like it)and The Dark Knight Rises,they didn't mean to me what Ridley Scott's return to the Alien franchise did.Now it's 2017,the world is still drooling over super heroes(liked Spider-Man Homecoming,not as much as Alien Covenant,Alien was better than Spider-Man this time.)The worlds taste in films remains stuck in super hero mode.I on the other hand remain a loyal (if not stubborn)Alien fan.Not much outside this series matters to me.How many of you feel the same?

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

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dk

MemberTrilobiteSep-03-2017 1:37 PM

I liked Dark Knight only because Christian Bale was a boss in that movie- much how Fassbender is a boss with his roles. Other than that I couldn't care less about super hero movies. Compared to other movie franchises, the Alien fans seem like a small but very loyal bunch.

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianSep-03-2017 1:46 PM

Very true.Love The Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises,but I'm growing increasingly bored with Super hero movies.While everyone loved it,I thought last year's Captain America Civil war was a great example of how stale super heroes are getting.Throw all heroes into a single film is a guaranteed way to make big bucks....BORING!!!

Alien is indeed a smaller franchise with a kinda niche fanbase,but one that has endured for nearly 40 years.Marvel and other heroes can't say the same.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianSep-03-2017 2:00 PM

On film any way 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

dk

MemberTrilobiteSep-03-2017 2:20 PM

I half ass watched part of Spider Man 3 and part of another super hero years ago before giving up. All I remember was the guy playing Spidey was basically an whiney emo dude and it seemed like a coming of age movie theme wise. Another one seemed to have an overt anti corporate theme. I have read reviews about Wonder Woman being empowering- fine. Seems like Ripley did that back in 1979.

The ONLY super hero I support is The Tick! 

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianSep-03-2017 3:59 PM

The Tick LOL!F'ng hilarious!

Spider-Man 3 is a piece of sh!t lol.Prime candidate for worst super hero movie,and one of the worst movies ever made in my opinion.

Damn good point on Wonder woman,haven't seen it,but it's Hollywood's currently business model,empowering female leads.Be it Wonder Woman,Hunger Games,The past couple Star Wars movies,it's seems Hollywood has forgotten they've always been there.Ripley,Sarah Connor,and Princess Leia (RIP Carrie Fisher.)In the case of Leia, since everyone believes Force Awakens Rey and Rogue One's Jyn Erso are being considered better characters than Leia,but they wouldn't be here if Leia hadn't come first.But that's beside the point lol.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

I.Raptus

ModeratorPraetorianSep-03-2017 4:05 PM

100% agree ninXeno426. Predator and Terminator franchises are great too, but Predator has been stuck going around in circles re-hashing the same premise, and Terminator films have been progressively getting worse since T2.

I love every single Alien film (not counting the AVPs), I honestly don't have a favourite.

You're also 100% right about everyone's obsession with Super-hero films....

but wait, the Avatar sequels are coming next....

dk

MemberTrilobiteSep-03-2017 4:10 PM

I forgot about Sarah and Leia but you are right. They were all strong lead characters and it seemed natural and not forced. I lean toward Ripley and Sarah though since they were tough but only because they had to be- they were either scared to death or just pissed off. 

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianSep-03-2017 4:12 PM

Agreed.Love Alien way more than Star Wars so I'm on Ripley's side.My Brother is a Terminator fanatic so he's on Sarah Connor's side(though he once admitted Ripley is a better character than Sarah Connor)

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Im Durp

MemberFacehuggerSep-03-2017 6:26 PM

I like the Alien franchise, but there are plenty of others I like just as much if not more.

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianSep-03-2017 6:45 PM

I love Star Wars,James Bond,Star Trek,The Lord of the Rings etc.They just don't compare to Alien for me at least.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianSep-03-2017 6:46 PM

Here's an example:

Alien 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Star Wars

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

Im Durp

MemberFacehuggerSep-03-2017 7:19 PM

^For me it might be the opposite

I.Raptus

ModeratorPraetorianSep-03-2017 7:47 PM

1.Alien(s)

2.Predator(s)

3.Mad Max(s)

4.Terminator(s)

5.Cube(s)

6.Riddicks

7. JPs/JWs

And of the new generation of sci-fi franchises 

8. The Maze Runners

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianSep-03-2017 8:03 PM

Was a similar thread a while back but I'll just do it here

1.Alien 

2.Star Wars 

3.Star Trek (tbh Wars and Trek are a tie)

4.Terminator 

5.Planet Of The Apes

6.Predator 

7. Riddick

8.The Matrix

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

dk

MemberTrilobiteSep-03-2017 9:15 PM

Star Trek

Alien

Terminator

POT Apes

Matrix

Riddick

I no longer care about SW

I.Raptus

ModeratorPraetorianSep-03-2017 10:04 PM

if we include TV + Movie sci-fi's

FIREFLY 

Battlestar Galactica 

Stargate(s)

 

MonsterZero

MemberXenomorphSep-04-2017 5:39 AM

Yes.

Alien series is the only one that I like every movie.

Star Trek is close....But less focused....all over the map.

Star Wars...love 'em...but uneven.

Alien series = Space monsters versus humans....simple, elegant. Hard science.

 

ali81

MemberNeomorphSep-04-2017 7:29 AM

for me the star wars franchise ends after the original trilogy. I don't like any of the episodes after 4,5 and 6 and haven't watched force awakens and have no interest whatso ever to watch any future SW films. give me the star trek franchise any day over star wars with the exception of the latest film which I thought stank. I love how even in the star trek series' such as next generation, voyager etc, the franchise didn't just stick to the same antagonist but it evolved every time.

 but bad films in any franchise is common. where the alien franchise is concerned, I 'like' alien3 and AR but im intrigued to see an alternate film to 3. of all the individual films released in the franchises alien stands with the best of them and will stand with them no matter what is released in years to come.

I think the super hero genre is here to stay as there are so many different characters from the comics that can be brought to life but I agree some are starting to get boring. of all the films in that genre, deadpool rocked imo. the problem is we are going to see far too much of certain characters the run the risk of over doing them, in much the same way as to how David is being used in the prequel trilogy here. I think they should reign David in a bit in awakening as to not ruin the character.

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianSep-04-2017 6:03 PM

 I too enjoy a majority of super hero films that come out,but with the amount that come out every year it's starting to become over kill.As to where Alien comes out every other year or even decade for that matter.

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I Moon Girl

MemberChestbursterSep-04-2017 6:15 PM

I love the realistic grit in the Alien franchise.  I can really relate to the characters as your typical human.  They don't have lightsabers or super powers or are really anybody important.  They just average human beings trying to do the best they can in a world that the Xeno wants to control.  The Alien franchise is real.  Star Wars is a fantasy (yet, I do like them).  I haven't watched much Star Trek, but I did when I was younger.  Still, from what I remember, it's fantasy-like as well.

I honestly, when there was only Alien, Aliens, Alien3, and Alien Resurrection, I thought that the universe that those films take place in is our actually universe.  They take place so far in the future that it is possible... that is, until Prometheus came out.  We got that Peter Weyland TED talk and that just screwed up the timeline with the knowledge I have of the Alien Universe.  The realism starts to disappear with that TED talk...sadly.  Still, I do like to watch Alien movies like it's history, but it just hasn't happened yet.

So, again, what I love about the Alien franchise is the grit and humane character of majority of the characters.  I also love the android AI's that look exactly like humans.  What a great twist for Alien and Alien:Resurrection and even when it's not a twist for who's who, it's a twist over, "Can I trust this android."  This answer I have come to from the Alien franchise is, "It just ain't worth trusting an android, unless you can always see what they are up too.  Even then, it's not 100% safe. 

I don't mind some superhero movies, like the new Batman's.  They had some real grit to them.  I love the new Batman.  That's really the only new superhero movie I like.  That doesn't mean others are bad.  It just means that I haven't heard of any other superheros.  Sometimes I'll watch a superhero movie just because and sometimes they can turn out to be alright.  Ant Man was good.  Iron Man was good.  Still, I'm not obsessing over them like I am with the Alien franchise.  Not even close! 

Timmy the ultramorph

MemberChestbursterSep-04-2017 6:58 PM

I do not love alien resurrection but i find it enjoyable. all the otthers I love.

Alien.

dark night trilogy.

planet of the apes.

mad max.

starwars comes close but There is always jar jar and the "i dont like sand line"

star trek comes close also but star trek 5 was awful.

terminator hasn't had a desent movie sinse t-2.

lord of the rings would have made the list but then the 2 hobbit movies came out witch are some of the most bloated pieces of crap I have ever seen.

alien by far the best franchise. watch movie tackled a different theme.

alien took on sexual violation

aliens took on the vietnam war

alien 3 used nihalisim to great effect

alien ressurection didn't really have one solid theme but i felt that a large part of it was identity. 

prometheous and covenant explored creation

even isolation witch to me is part of the franchise sinse it is cannon deals with what people will turn into to try to survive.

food ain't that bad! - Parker

Ingeniero

MemberPraetorianSep-04-2017 9:26 PM

The Alien movies are set apart for me because of the obvious reasons we speak about here. Behind that, as far as a franchise, now Blade Runner offers history worth looking at (my opinion). 

There isn't another franchise that comes close to Alien ninXeno426.

I loved the Michael Keaton and Christian Bale Batman movies as well as all the Terminator films. Super hero movies are something I'll get around to watching if I'm bored from watching The Thing (both 1982 and 2011) over and over. 

The only franchise that could come close to Alien would be a franchise for Big Trouble in Little China. If they started that up, it would cut into my Alien topic production.

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Lone

MemberPraetorianSep-05-2017 3:13 AM

Whilst I love the Star Wars and Mad Max franchises too, ALIEN remains my first love. Not the Franchise, just ALIEN alone, it never needed a sequel.

I have come to despise ALIENS, I just can't watch it anymore! I do enjoy A L I E N 3. As yet, there's still nothing that can topple ALIEN.

PROMETHEUS comes close and I have found myself watching it more and more since A:C's release. I now view it as a one off. It's unique, weird and fascinating. A strange trip which will never be fully explained. Given that the direction it took appears to have been all but abandoned, I treasure it now!

ALIEN: COVENANT still needs time to settle in with me. Once we have the Blu-ray (with download) here in the UK, I'll be viewing it multiple times.

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianSep-05-2017 7:56 PM

As for franchises, I've never been all that much into Superheroes, I grew up on Mystery In Space comics and things like that, as well as Star Wars.

Star Trek, aside from Classic and some absolutely splendid fan-productions, I've walked away from.
Paramount has diddled away it's big reboot, and I absolutely will NOT watch ST: Discovery, and am looking fwd to seeing The Orville kick it to the curb.

The ALIENverse is where I live, and no matter what FOX does theres the Fanbase and it's works as well as PROMETHEUS and ALIEN for me to always come back to. I have to say ALIEN: Covenant wasn't that bad, and I did enjoy it.

The superheroes can have Earth, and keep bashing each other over the head. I live out amongst the cold and silent darkness between the stars, where no one can hear you scream and there's all manner of Interesting and Big Questions, which come with chilling answers. ;)

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

dk

MemberTrilobiteSep-05-2017 8:27 PM

Blackwinter-witch I loved the Star Trek reboot but thought it lost steam immediately after that. 

Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianSep-05-2017 8:43 PM

dk

Agreed.

ST 2009 = Good, enjoyed it.

Into Darkness = Mainly I liked Cumberbatch's villian, got a lot of ideas from his version of Khan.

Beyond = wow, 3rd movie and 'Hey, let's kill the Enterprise in yet another battle where it's hopelessly outmatched!'

That's when I said 'Bye' to Star Trek, as the Kelvin's scene involved a lot more ship combat and such than the Enterprise has seen in 3 films, and performed better even while getting pounded into wreckage.
I am sick of seeing The Enterprise being used as nothing more than a big sitting-duck for some over-powered enemy.
Narada
Vengeance
Swarm ships
Yeah, Paramount's fetish for hopeless situations vs Uber-enemies poisoned me against the whole ST franchise.

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

dk

MemberTrilobiteSep-05-2017 11:22 PM

Blackwinter-witch I think it would have worked better to have the ST reboot springboard into episodic seasons via Netflix/Amazon- back to the ways of TOS and NG et all. Not as much revenue I suppose.

Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianSep-05-2017 11:47 PM

dk

I'm not sure ST can be, or should be saved. I think it's run it's course, but your idea has merit, and would be worth a try...IF proper writers were involved.

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

dk

MemberTrilobiteSep-06-2017 12:05 AM

Blackwinter-witch I would rather let it it be. Same goes for things like Twilight Zone and Matrix. Things get diluted the more they get milked.

Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianSep-06-2017 12:18 AM

dk

Agreed, exactly, yeah. And as ST is falling back into the story-habits that killed the franchise and necessitated a reboot, well...the writing's on the wall.

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

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