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Seeing what the Xenomorph sees- worth it?

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dk

Aug-23-2017 12:54 AM

I am probably a rarity to think seeing things from the Xeno POV was a bit of a let down since it looked pretty much like our POV- I sort of wished it remained a mystery. I also know RS had a rationale why we saw it at all in the commentary. What do you think? 

25 Responses to Seeing what the Xenomorph sees- worth it?

joylitt

Aug-23-2017 1:53 AM

I think it is just a filler. There was simply not enough "stuff" or detail in that part of the script. By the way, the xenomorph running like crazy on the corridor was not even included in the film, and that was in the script. I think they swapped one thing for the other.

hox

Aug-23-2017 1:53 AM

I agree, it wasn't needed. We shouldn't get to see how the Alien 'thinks' about the world. It would be like creating a movie of bat vision or cuttlefish vision - these creatures sense the world, but in alien ways to ourselves that don't really map with the way we see things.

dk

Aug-23-2017 2:00 AM

hox Nicely put. The more we understand the creature, the less Alien it becomes.

joylitt What you show was not in the movie- agreed. The pic I showed was from the Xeno POV and yes, it seems a bit weird. RS wanted to show something different during that scene considering everything going on and this is what we got.

joylitt

Aug-23-2017 2:15 AM

dk what I mean is: the POV is not on the script. The running xeno is. They swapped one thing for the other, I guess to make the whole sequence more of a slow burn suspense. But it misses the mark; as you say it is not worth it. 

Timmy the ultramorph

Aug-23-2017 2:19 AM

didn't we alreadt sort of see an alien pov in alien3? it just looked like a completely normal pov. I had always imagined something more like the predators infared but not as bright. something that instead of heat, echolocation. how To create this image i have no idea.

food ain't that bad! - Parker

joylitt

Aug-23-2017 2:25 AM

Timmy the ultramorph Yes in Alien 3 the POV worked better, it served the purpose of generating suspense.

dk

Aug-23-2017 2:26 AM

Timmy the ultramorph Good point- the echo location from the VR video with some tweaks would have been better. Ultimately, I would have been happy to have it un explained.

ali81

Aug-23-2017 7:14 AM

don't think we should see what any of the creatures see unless they have visible eyes of some form. the reason the xeno doesn't have eyes is because it is/was viewed as being scarier not having eyes

drucea

Aug-23-2017 8:04 AM

Couldn't you play as the xeno in one of the AVP games? I didn't play it so I don't know what the xeno vision looked like, if differnt at all.

I did like the echolocation thing in the VR video, but it still looked like regular vision.

BigDave

Aug-23-2017 8:29 AM

I agree maybe it should have been left out, i would have liked to see the other sequence added though

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murnau

Aug-23-2017 9:16 AM

I read that it was Ridley's homage to some of the B-movie sci-fi classics of the 50s, such as It Cam From Outer Space. But it was a mistake, I agree - if we are shown any kind of 'interior', then the creature becomes less other, and less scary. It should be blank, motiveless, unknowable. And in a movie already stuffed with incident, and a final reel that's edited to the bone, and who's pacing is rushed, it's one more detail we can do without.

I am a fan of the movie, though, even though it's a bit of dog's dinner. It's still more interesting than any sci-fi movie this year....

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Timmy the ultramorph

Aug-23-2017 12:12 PM

When I first saw alien, I thought that its haedcrest ws one big eye. 

food ain't that bad! - Parker

Lawrence of Arabia

Aug-23-2017 12:58 PM

I saw it as a nice homage to Alien 3 and it was cool to see it's POV from the dome.

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Im Durp

Aug-23-2017 1:13 PM

Yeah was not a fan of the Xeno POV, any of them really, they were too easy and similar to ours.

dk

Aug-23-2017 1:35 PM

Timmy the ultramorph As for the neomorph, it made what sounded like clicking noises and I wondered if that hinted at echolocation. Likely not though.

Starlogger

Aug-23-2017 1:46 PM

Unnecessary and "video game"-ish if u ask me.

auximenes

Aug-23-2017 9:28 PM

I would have much rather seen the 3rd-person view with the Xeno approaching the 'camera'. The speed and style of the Xenos' movement increases the terror. Seeing that scene presented in 1st-person was a bit of a let-down.

daliens

Aug-24-2017 2:54 AM

There must be some meaning to it. Maybe that's how Daniels will see things in the opening scene from Awakening. 

"He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!"

Leeta

Aug-24-2017 3:02 AM

Couldn't you play as the xeno in one of the AVP games? I didn't play it so I don't know what the xeno vision looked like, if differnt at all.

 

Yep, and if I remember correctly it was normal vision. It was a while ago now when I played it.

ScorpioStar

Aug-24-2017 3:39 AM

The POV in movies is a tough thing to accomplish, for films rely on the picture itself, and for you to really have a POV there - which would include showing the way the character REALLY senses the environment... It would have already been hard if it was written, let alone filmed. Yup, I would have passed.

Kethol

Aug-24-2017 6:10 AM

I did not really care for it in the movie, but this was kinda fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKw1_l3htvA

Thoughts_Dreams

Aug-24-2017 6:53 AM

No, I also think that it is a stupid idea. There are some things that they should let us wonder about. 

 

An Alien prequel could explain some things but there are other things that are not that important. Sure we can be given a hint where it comes from but I am not interested in learning if it can smell tings, what they eat, and so on. What I am worried about is that the prequels will explain everything about it because then there is nothing left to think about which would be a shame. The Xeno shouldn’t be a meaningless creature like Bambi. Having the image of how it sees is one thing but we still don’t know how their vision is made up, from a physiological point of view and hopefully we will never learn about that.

Gavin

Aug-24-2017 7:03 AM

I would've preferred something more akin to this...

Timmy the ultramorph

Aug-25-2017 1:28 PM

The terminator was one of the only times I thought that POV was used properly.

food ain't that bad! - Parker

hox

Aug-25-2017 2:20 PM

Again, though, it's just for the viewer's benefit. An actual Terminator wouldn't want or need to see rasterised Latin script assembly language instructions or words like 'Match' written in front of his eyes, any more than your alarm clock would need to read the time on its display before it wakes you up!

It's nicely done, though.

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