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Just rewatched Prometheus. can't understand why people hate it.

Just rewatched Prometheus. can't understand why people hate it.

Timmy the ultramorph

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Posted Aug-13-2017 3:15 PM

When I first watched Prometheus, i disliked the movie alot but still exepted the movie into the alien timeline (abit like the starwars prequels). Now i rewatched it and i can't figure out why  so many people dislike it. 

It is an amazing looking movie with some of the best directing and cinematography I have ever seen. 

it is very well acted throughout. espeicially micheal fassbender who probably gives the best proformance of any charector in the alien franchise exept maybe ripley in alien 3.

it tryed something new from the typical alien movie using a philosophical stance while still having some quite frightening parts.

the alien abortion was scarier and more intense then the chestburster in 1979s alien.

it dose more world building than any other movie exept the original.

Probably my favorite part of the movie though was the score. it was so mysterious and epic throughout. 

david was such a compelling character.

Alot of people complain that it didn't tie in to alien enough but i disagree. it showed the weyland corporation the juggernaut ship and even showed us the space jockey.

another big complaint people have with this movie is that the tech is way more advanced even though it is a prequel. this is a trillion dollar operation. the nostromo is a random blue collar space truck. 

really, the only thing that i hated was the completely unnecessary plot twist that vickers was weylands daughter. that was it. other than that, i thought this movie was great. dose not deserve the hate it gets.

did you like or dislike prometheous. let me know in the comments.

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Lawrence of Arabia

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Posted Aug-13-2017 3:21 PM

NOT ENOUGH ALIENS!!11!!

 

For real though, it is one of my favorite sc-fi films and a great start to Ridley's Alien prequels. I like how it isn't so on the nose that it is an Alien prequel plus the themes reverberate throughout the franchise. And yes, David is a very compelling character that is masterfully brought to life through Fassbender. Nobody could play this role like him.

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Space JOC

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Posted Aug-13-2017 3:35 PM

I love Prometheus, it's probably my favourite sci-fi film, it's pure escapism when you're watching it because it looks and feels like an actual planet or world. I know some characters might have flaws but Fassbender and Noomi Rapace more than make up for it! On that point, show me a single alien movie that doesn't have character flaws, who cares that Milburn and Fifield were a bit dumb, they got what they deserved for being dumb, it's not like they got away with it! Prometheus is a 10/10 in my book and nothing will change my mind, I watch it regularly! It opens up the Alien world to and adds to the lore! 

cuponator3000

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Posted Aug-13-2017 4:20 PM

I loved it when I first saw it, then kind of soured on it after a few years, but came to my senses a few weeks later! So basically, I love Prometheus! I do agree that the performances and score were top notch! I think there was some disdain towards the score, but I LOVE it. Esepcially, "Life". I don't know if I will ever forget seeing the opening shot of that planet and hearing that track. It was one of those things that made me wish I could have seen Alien for the firts time on the bigscreen. In fact, next time there is an opportunity to see it in theaters (doesn't happen very often!) I most definitely will. 

The big deal with Prometheus, is that I accepted the big, philosophical scope and the new take on the Alien franchise. Some people were bothered by that whole deal. Plus, I have seen/heard a couple of references about Prometheus (and Covenant now) being reagrded as films that are pseudo-intellectual. I disagree, but it is just an example of how it rubs some people wrong. 

So, I can see why a lot of people don't really like Prometheus (some of the flaws are glaring. I can look past most of them or they just don't bother me. There may be objective issues, but it's still a subjective experience. Life is funny that way.)

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MonsterZero

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Posted Aug-13-2017 4:31 PM

Awesome eldritch horror. Cthulhu monster and all! What's not to like!

Getting to see a Juggernaut fly(and crash) is cool enough.

Leeta

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Posted Aug-14-2017 2:57 AM

really, the only thing that i hated was the completely unnecessary plot twist that vickers was weylands daughter. that was it. 

I thought showing they were related added to the reason why David was cold himself. He says something to Shaw about how doesn't everyone want their parents dead, and when you see how Weyland and Vickers act with each other you can see why David would come to that conclusion and even how it's affected his behavior. 

hox

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Posted Aug-14-2017 3:52 AM

Like most people, I anticipated being scared shitless by Aliens in Prometheus. Didn't turn out that way. BUT... that didn't stop it being a fantastic movie, one I've watched many many times, and doubtless will do many times more. It's also given me endless hours of amusement rebutting spurious complaints made by homeboy reviewers on the internet. Or even down the pub last night, as it happens. My friend declared I was a fanboy and it was rubbish because they couldn't run out of the way of the tumbling spaceship. I declared that he is an idiot and can't use his eyes. Didn't he see the fiery debris raining down on either side? Oh, the joy, there are hundreds more mistakes like this that homeboys make.

Anyway, I rather feel the same way about Covenant. It's a great movie in its own right, and I can't wait to get it on iTunes.

Starlogger

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Posted Aug-14-2017 8:53 AM

I never "disliked" Prometheus. I knew what was coming and what it was supposed to be. I DID want to see more connections to the "Alien" Universe, but other than not feeling satisfied in that regard, the movie has become much better with time, much like a fine wine, and is an excellent piece of cinema, alone AND as part of the "Alien" Universe.

Thoughts_Dreams

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Posted Aug-14-2017 8:59 AM

 

Hate is a strong word, I don’t hate any movie even though I can have a heavy dislike for some. I look at it as some disappointment compared to what it could have been. Prometheus could have been a lot better if they would have kept a lot of the cut scenes in the movie.

 

Some scenes that should have been left in are Xeno Fifield, when they find a small worm, (Fifield and Milburn before they get stupid and try to cuddle a space cobra). Yes it would still have been bad but at least it would have been given an explanation. They should have left in some parts of the Weyland speech so we would get a better understanding of what he was trying to achieve. The translation of the David Engineer discussion would have been left in, that would have made more sense. I am not sure why they cut those scenes, maybe it was for some pacing shit.

 

Fassbender/David was interesting but most of the characters were badly developed which a lot of times made me think "that was stupid" or "meh". Janek was another character that I found interesting. It was good that they had David and Janek in it, otherwise it would have been trash. Those two characters saved the movie for me at least.

 

The movie is good looking, Scott is a good visualist but he shouldn’t write the story otherwise we get a focus on David, which is bad. Human characters should be the most important thing, not androids.

 

I agree with you about the abortion scene, that was nasty.

 

As far as technology, I think that it kind of depends what kind of mission it is. Sometimes you need more advanced technology compared to other times. Maybe it depends on how advanced the aim of the mission is. I didn't find any reason to complain about that at all. To me that is more like nit-picking.

 

Unfortunately there are more things that I dislike about it or that I stay neutral about rather than things that make me go "um that was good" or "Yes! Great!". I give Prometheus a 2 out of 5, I don't like it but I don't dislike it a lot either. At least it is better than AVP and AR.

 

Vickers being Weyland's daughter wasn't an issue for me, I just didn’t care about that part. To me she was a corporate bitch with daddy issues. At least she was not dumb as Shaw.

ali81

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Posted Aug-14-2017 9:01 AM

I think the Vickers plot was to show in more depth the kind of man weyland was. he cast his daughter aside and created the son he always wanted. he was probably not around while she was growing up and so she has become a cold woman, hates him for not being a dad but really pissed hed rather have a synthetic son than a true daughter

Thoughts_Dreams

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Posted Aug-14-2017 9:15 AM

Ali81:

 

Maybe that was the case but I still think that they didn't do a very good job with the Vickers character. Charlize Theron might be able to do well done roles it is just that Vickers wasn't that well written.

ali81

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Posted Aug-14-2017 9:21 AM

I agree that the Vickers character didn't add much to the story and Theron may well look back at this part and think maybe someone else less well known should have taken it. she didn't give anything by way of influencing the mission as no one listened to her really. that's why I believe her part was merely just to show what a cold hearted bastard weyland really was and if it came to it, hed sacrifice her in a nanosecond. given more screen time I think someone as talented as Theron wouldv done the character justice but her time was limited

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May 19th, 2017

Plot Synopsis:

Ridley Scott returns to the universe he created in ALIEN with ALIEN: COVENANT, the second chapter in a prequel trilogy that began with PROMETHEUS -- and connects directly to Scott’s 1979 seminal work of science fiction. Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy, the crew of the colony ship Covenant discovers what they think is an uncharted paradise, but is actually a dark, dangerous world -- whose sole inhabitant is the "synthetic" David (Michael Fassbender), survivor of the doomed Prometheus expedition.

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