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Alien Series Future: Theatrical Releases or Streaming Series

dk

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Posted Aug-06-2017 7:09 PM

I would rather see a series than wait years to see what happens next. What do you think?

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JonesRules

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Posted Aug-06-2017 7:23 PM

I am all for series from a network that can afford a quality show (Netflix, HBO, Showtime). It is not just waiting for years to get a new film in a franchise but it is the damn 2 hours not being enough to develop characters, narrative, answer questions, etc., i.e. tell an intriguing story in an adequate way. Television is at its high these days and has shown impressive results with the right budget. And think what a show as ambitious as Westworld would be as a 2-hour movie, even with the same 100 million budget. Take A:C's same 100 mil and make 10 hour-long episodes. Dream come true really!

A-list actors and directors have no problem doing series, audiences obsess over them. Ridley Scott is no stranger to TV productions, maybe not as a director, but, for one, he produced Man In The High Castle (not my favorite, but still...), so why not? Fox however may not be into it...

dk

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Posted Aug-06-2017 7:23 PM

I should add that writers shouldn't matter for this thread. It is about how you would like to see it play out after Awakening.

joylitt

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Posted Aug-06-2017 7:23 PM

It could be interesting. I would vote for the people behind "Black Mirror" to write and produce.

dk

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Posted Aug-06-2017 7:27 PM

joylitt LOL- an aside. After you and Starlogger talked me into Netflix I had to select 3 shows before moving forward. Black Mirrors was one and I have not had time to check it out but love its premise!

joylitt

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Posted Aug-06-2017 7:33 PM

You will love Black Mirror, I'm sure :-)

IRaptus

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Posted Aug-06-2017 8:06 PM

JonesRules well said!! TV series imo have overtaken movies in quality as the gold standard of screen entertainment.

Series offer a much more engaging experience for both the viewer and developers.

 

IRaptus

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Posted Aug-06-2017 8:10 PM

Movies are still relevant but they have to offer a cinematic experience that can't be done on the small screen, usually with huge budgets and mind-blowing fx. Though that window is narrowing rapidly, as developers realise that series over X amount years = $$$$$.

That and bombastic audio visual don't guarantee success.

 

Capt Torgo

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Posted Aug-06-2017 8:58 PM

TV series is fine with me. I really like the Strain or the ideal it seems to strive for. Add that extra cash and openness of a more premium publisher like Netflix , others......we could get something really special. Hard to believe a 'paradise lost' narrative hybrid could fit well within two hours but oh well. Wonder how Fox would make money on a series?

JonesRules

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Posted Aug-06-2017 9:03 PM

IRaptus I agree wholeheartedly. And when we talk about grandiose ideas that Prometheus introduced and a number of very intelligent ideas the whole Alien franchise has put forward, and all the mysteries, all that cannot be dealt with and covered rapidly within the time a big-screen movie is limited to. There is no need to make a series out of original Alien or even any of its first three sequels, as they all presented localized events and wrapped things up decently, but once Prometheus opened up that universe and bombarded us with its ideas like David's kombucha attack on the engineers, the screen time given to feature films simply does not work anymore. We wait for 5 years and get 2 hours of chopped-up footage and salivate over any extras like Advent, so things could make sense. Nothing wrong with using brain and connecting the dots, reading novelizations, searching the web and such, but there's nothing wrong either with the story unfolding, even slowly, on the small screen. I think it could be more effective, expose this, again, very intelligent franchise to more people and generations, and make for overall epic entertainment.

cuponator3000

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Posted Aug-06-2017 9:09 PM

Why not both? I am still all for the build up to an Alien movie every once in a while! I also love just going to movies in general!!

A series would be a welcome addition to the Alien franchise though! There is also plenty of time and places in between/during any film so far that would make for great TV! A series may be a great way to kick off the Post-Ridley prequels in a few years. 

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dk

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Posted Aug-06-2017 10:13 PM

JonesRules Agree. Also, a series might have more ability to stretch out into different facets the movie franchise did not cover. For instance, Advent alone could almost be the subject of at least half a season.

Something Real

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Posted Aug-06-2017 10:33 PM

DK - I would very much enjoy a series of books. Books allow me to use my imagination so much more than a film or show. I desire to think and feel - and books are a wonderful way of evoking those states in a mind! :)

Something Real

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Posted Aug-06-2017 10:33 PM

Oh, gosh! I am sorry for this duplicate post! :(

Jonesy

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Posted Aug-06-2017 11:16 PM

Definitely would like to see a TV series for Alien. Maybe an alternative ALIEN 3 universe starring Ripley, Hicks and Newt.

BigDave

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Posted Aug-07-2017 3:17 PM

I think we have to have a Movie to cover the basics and link to Alien.

But certainly a Series to expand upon things from the Universe would be interesting, its if FOX had any confidence to invest so much into the Alien Franchise.

And it shows using none A-List Actors can work Take the AMC Walking Dead, hardly a cast of well knowns, who have become more Well Known now.....  The Walking Dead had the same effect that Alien had as far as not so well know Actors, who had very well written Characters who then become more house hold names.

I think a TV Series Spin off would work but then its if FOX would want to risk such a venture.

I hope that the only AWAKENING we are in for is FOX/RS wake up and learn from their mistakes.

Gavin

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Posted Aug-07-2017 3:39 PM

Wow, I'm surprised that I'm going to be the only one to say this thus far but I'd be dead set against an Alien TV show.

Contrary to what Ridley Scott says the beast is not overcooked, maybe over exposed but not overcooked, because if the Alien is overcooked the so is every other unseen antagonist lurking in the shadows. It is how the Alien is utilized by the director and the script that makes it scary, Alien Isolation more than proved that point.

I mention this because if you had an Alien TV or streaming series, and even if the creature only appeared sparingly, you would further expose the already overexposed creature and run the risk of actually overcooking it. It's the same reason a Freddy or Jason series has never been greenlit. Yes, we have had those properties attached to shows, but those shows weren't actually about those characters.

If instead, it was a spin-off, maybe about Weyland-Yutani employees or the inhabitants of a colony this could maybe work, but then you run the risk of creating too much 'canon' that could potentially hinder future movies that would be tied not just to the canon of the previous shows but also the stories depicted in each episode of the show.

Think Star Trek. The original series was fine, same too with The Next Generation, but by the time we got to Voyager and Enterprise there was so much baggage and so many toes that could be stepped on narratively that it limited the narrative scope of those shows, which is most likely why they rebooted the entire franchise.

Would you really want that happing to the Alien franchise and isn't in convoluted enough thanks to the prequels?

BigDave

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Posted Aug-07-2017 3:57 PM

Totally agree Gavin...

Oh we did get Freddy's Nightmare kind of Spin off... where Freddy was not in most of them, but it was as if the events he was connected to. 

I think indeed a TV Series about the Xenomorph would be a bad idea, they would need to have some kind of Spin Off.

Maybe hint a bit at the Xenomorph or show it now and again in different forms, and have it as a limited run like 10 Episode Side Story... where maybe we could see the Xenomorph only shown a handful of times.

The Universe is expanded by Prometheus.. so much scope, to set things anywhere in the Galaxy, at any time point... we also have the Weyland and Yutani Compay and the Androids so we dont have to go the whole Engineer route.

The Problem is having a Series that is in the Universe that has no Xenomorphs is a good idea, but then having it use the ALIEN Prefix without showing the Xenomorphs could well ruffle a few feathers as some fans expect to then see Xenomorphs...

But then setting it within the Universe but not having Alien even mentioned in the Title etc.. holds its own risks... Prometheus never carried the Alien Prefix. it was a attempt to explore other elements within the Universe than just the ALIEN as in the Eggs and Xenomorph on the Derelict.  But it was marketed as a kind of Prequel to Alien and this again caused some fans to expect and want it to cover Xenomorphs... Hence why FOX/RS gave us a more Alieny Alien Covenant.

So thats a dilemma they have.

My Point being like the ADF Prequel Novel, this is like a Spin Off based Prequel to cover the Covenant Mission and the Company etc... but it appears in no way is it connected to the Xenomorph or anything related to LV-223 and Engineers.

But the Book is labeled Alien Covenant Origins... which some fans may think this book could and should have some ALIEN Origins. When in reality its more just a Covenant Prequel.

And so should have been called The Covenant... but then its how does this get interpreted as being connected to the Alien Covenant movie...  so for recognition they insert the Alien: before Covenant and this prior to Origins.

This is the problem the Alien Franchise has... Star Wars can go and cover Spin Offs that are not connected to Luke Skywalker, or Anakin/Vader or even anything like this... Star Wars Universe is opened up that not every movie has to connect to the Anakin Family Tree.. but you will get fans who see any Spin Offs and expect at least a Nod to Skywalker etc...

But then connections to the Force are sufficient.

Sadly the Alien Franchise by Name, has the Curse that every movie that wishes to be connected maybe has to use the ALIEN: Prefix in order for them to push it that its within the same universe... But then fans would expect it to be connected or have ALIENS as far as the Organism on LV-426

I hope that the only AWAKENING we are in for is FOX/RS wake up and learn from their mistakes.

Timmy the ultramorph

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Posted Aug-07-2017 4:00 PM

 A hadleys hope tv series would be nice.

also mabye just an anthology series and each season would tell a complete different story involving the corperation and xenomorphs.

food ain't that bad! - Parker

MonsterZero

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Posted Aug-07-2017 4:05 PM

TV - series please! Love to have 100+ A L I E N episodes. Like Star Trek, have 30 or more favorites and the rest so-so and I'd be happy!

Jonesy

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Posted Aug-09-2017 7:10 AM

How about an Alien Isolation TV series? I so want a 70s technology throwback with a great storyline. 

Starlogger

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Posted Aug-09-2017 8:41 AM

I would like intermittent movies with series in between that explore untouched portions of the Alien Universe, NONE of which "require" "Aliens" (monsters) per se.

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Ridley Scott returns to the universe he created in ALIEN with ALIEN: COVENANT, the second chapter in a prequel trilogy that began with PROMETHEUS -- and connects directly to Scott’s 1979 seminal work of science fiction. Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy, the crew of the colony ship Covenant discovers what they think is an uncharted paradise, but is actually a dark, dangerous world -- whose sole inhabitant is the "synthetic" David (Michael Fassbender), survivor of the doomed Prometheus expedition.

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