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Which is more offensive to you and why?

dk

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Posted Jul-27-2017 7:22 PM

This is open to discussion and there are no wrong answers since it is subjective.

Most of us have seen Necro IV by HR Giger. Do you think it would be more offensive to the un initiated to SHOW the picture or DESCRIBE the picture in detail?

I think describing could be more disturbing since it requires the subject to imagine- and one's imagination can be more powerful and personal than a static image.

What do you think?

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joylitt

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Posted Jul-27-2017 7:32 PM

Nature is more offensive than Giger. I bet not too many know that hyenas give birth to their babies through penises.

http://tvblogs.nationalgeographic.com/2014/01/10/worlds-weirdest-giving-birth-through-a-penis/

dk

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Posted Jul-27-2017 7:49 PM

 joylitt Thanks for the video- I did not know that until now! I love nature videos and documentaries that delve into things we might not think about.

The question is this- do you think it would be more offensive to show the video or describe it? Granted- the describer would have to be competent.

joylitt

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Posted Jul-27-2017 8:08 PM

Well, in this case as you say, a description may be disturbing since you have to fill in the blanks with your imagination. For instance, in the video they tell you that 60% of the offspring dies from suffocation because they are delivered through a tiny conduct. Then your brain makes associations, maybe you remember the agony of a relative who couldn't pass a stone and just the thought of it is enough to make you squirm...

On the other hand, in the case of pictures of real crime scenes, suicide victims and gruesome accidents, no matter how good the description is, it cannot compare to what you experience by looking at the pic. Maybe you can forget about something that you imagined, but you cannot unsee a pic.

dk

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Posted Jul-27-2017 8:46 PM

Interesting- I suppose it could go either way. I can say from experience that as a kid, I accidentally saw some autopsy photos while helping my dad clean out his desk. They were black and white and stark. I have yet to see something that tops it.

The hyena birth itself was not shown and YT searches gave no videos of the occasion itself. So I imagined what I thought it would look and sound like. I imagined a lot of pain and writhing. 

As stated OP, this is subjective, but we can have discussions and it might be interesting. 

Thanks again for the video!

joylitt

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Posted Jul-27-2017 9:04 PM

If you translate all these examples into art, I guess the answer would be that if the art piece is realistic enough, probably a picture will be more disturbing than the description.

dk

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Posted Jul-27-2017 9:14 PM

Valid point.

Let me conduct a highly and well tested experiment lol!

Which is more disturbing:

For the un initiated:

A- The enterance to the Derelict is an oval shaped entrance

B- Describing that entrance as a bald, blue, dry and cold vaginal opening?

Starlogger

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Posted Jul-28-2017 6:28 AM

The art itself should never be "described". Art, by definition, is to be interpreted differently by each beholder. That is the nature of true Art, so "descriptions" would NEVER truly convey a piece of Art, and never should try.

BigDave

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Posted Jul-28-2017 9:36 AM

You on about the Tail are you not DK ;)

I think it looks like the Creature is playing with some kind of Harp!

I hope that the only AWAKENING we are in for is FOX/RS wake up and learn from their mistakes.

Something Real

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Posted Jul-28-2017 5:07 PM

DK - I take offense to neither art nor description. The Alien universe is permeated with subtle sensuality which I find most compelling and natural. Life and death, conception and birth, are all parts of a beautiful design refined by the universe for countless billions of years. It might make me less "ladylike" to say it, but I enjoy honest, real expression of desires and dreams. This is what makes us human - free-thinking and autonomous. :)

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Ridley Scott returns to the universe he created in ALIEN with ALIEN: COVENANT, the second chapter in a prequel trilogy that began with PROMETHEUS -- and connects directly to Scott’s 1979 seminal work of science fiction. Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy, the crew of the colony ship Covenant discovers what they think is an uncharted paradise, but is actually a dark, dangerous world -- whose sole inhabitant is the "synthetic" David (Michael Fassbender), survivor of the doomed Prometheus expedition.

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