Why do we care about a movie's bottom line?
Posted Jul-27-2017 1:37 AM
I think it could be pointless to pay too much attention to stats and charts. Why do we really care about what the net income of a movie is? Is that a measure of how we predict our own enjoyment? With all respect to every member here- How about ignoring all that shit, see whatever movie or buy whatever CD or MP3- and decide for yourself?
There are definitely dedicated people out there doing reviews and analysis. I read that stuff and commend their efforts. Ultimately, I need to decide what I like or dislike regardless of what I am told.
My intent is not to instigate an argument. I am only asking a question and I hope it does not come across as a loaded one.
Posted Jul-27-2017 2:00 AM
The reason for this is because of how the industry works. In the case of a franchise, the numbers will determine whether the next one will get made or not. And nowadays, the box office returns of any original movie that is not a sequel or a reboot need to be scrutinized because if they fail that might signal that other similar projects will get cancelled. The real tragedy is when a good movie falls. The arthouse circuit numbers are also important. I recently heard David Lynch said the arthouse circuit is dead. That is very sad news.
Posted Jul-27-2017 2:01 AM
I think those who dislike a movie, and I do to a degree include myself, and like a movie, use such a stat to validate their own view on whether a movie is good or bad. I have used it once I think in a discussion on AC when pointing out to someone that I believe it is a bad movie. something along the line for example ''its a bad/ good movie, the numbers don't lie'' kinda thing but to me, for 99% of the time I don't really bother about numbers. if I like a film I like a film and if I don't same goes, I don't take stats into account when making up my own mind
Posted Jul-27-2017 2:10 AM
joylitt I do not really know how the industry works. I suppose I am asking if perception, previews or reviews have an effect on your enjoyment. Do you watch and enjoy a movie that the masses hate? Do you despise a Hollywood block buster everyone keeps talking about that you saw but hated?
Mr H- oops? ali81 Thanks- that is pretty much how I see it. Although I have enjoyed the s£$t out of some things others have absolutely hated. Go figure.
Posted Jul-27-2017 2:26 AM
dk Yes. I love movies with morose pacing. By the way this reminds me you were asking for Sci fi movie recommendations. Try to watch "Embers" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3503460/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2
and also "The Girl with all the gifts" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4547056/?ref_=nv_sr_2
I am surprised "Embers" didn't get better reviews; I though it was absolutely brilliant.
Posted Jul-27-2017 1:11 PM
dk my enjoyment is never affected by the box office numbers, I just know that if the movie tanks (by industry standards), though being a film that I personally enjoy, and it is a part of a franchise (that I also happen to enjoy), then the franchise may not continue. That is just to answer your question - no, essentially I do not care for the bottom line, and probably no viewer should (at least not to the point that it overshadows viewing experience), but I may glance at the box office stats with a corner of my eye, because I want see franchise continue, and because I want the movie I enjoy to kick the box office ass )
Posted Jul-27-2017 5:38 PM
I can see what Joylitt means as the money thats made $$$$ and how well the movies get rated do effect the potential for investing to make more Movies in the same Franchise.
I understand the OP as far as how a movie is rated or how much it makes $$$$$ does not effect how each individual person enjoys the said Movie.
Avatar and Gravity got Rave reviews but i could not watch them no further than i could AVPR... but i did give AVPR a 3rd try a few months back and saw it all the way through lol
Maybe i need to do the same for Avatar and Gravity... but i just never found either appealing... Some people did not like Chappie but i found it not to bad... mind you did not see point in Miss Weaver lol but i have for some reason the last 10 years just become less and less a Miss Weaver Fan myself.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Posted Jul-27-2017 7:37 PM
I'll use Arrival. Was not my cup of tea and the stereotype of the "dumb soldiers listening to right wing radio" was off-putting. The rest of the film did not insult my intelligence so I look favorably on that director. The icing on the cake is that it did well at the box office. This all correlates to a director runniñg on all cylinders. Out of eight Alien films there is only one I think of when flushing the toilet. It just so happens that word of mouth murdered it's (AC) reception among regular people or (earth chimps to Ridley). I wouldn't trust Scott to sell girl scout cookies now. Yes, box-office matters when there is only one franchise I can watch on dvd loop running 249 days a year at eleven hours a day. Will Covvy be purchased for the loop, maybe in three years at a pawn shop for dirt cheap.
Posted Jul-27-2017 8:53 PM
dk you hit the right spot with bringing up Pitch Black! I treasure my DVD version of it and consider it a stunning film, a modern classic, a low-budget mind-blowing masterpiece, a rare gem among most of the modern [huge-budget] sci-fi movies. And I do not know its ratings and box office figures. But what happened - studio took notice that it was well-received by the fans and gave birth to a sequel - a glossy super-expensive pile of garbage and nonsense, a cartoon in more than one meaning of that word. And after seeing [half of] that sequel, I did not care about that franchise continuing, even if it made a bundle of money (it did continue, I think). And Pitch Black will live on for me as a great stand-alone (as what original Alien may be for some).
Posted Jul-27-2017 9:21 PM
JonesRules Indeed. I thought the movie was fine all by itself. I eventually bought the whole thing with COR, Riddik and I think there is an animation link in there too. I did not care for COR- it seemed too grandiose to me. Riddik was just OK- worth watching once. I think the animation was pretty good actually, but forgettable.
I feel a similar way about the Quadrilogy.
BTW- due to lapses of memory or laziness, I have 3 copies of Pitch Black!
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