Ati
MemberPraetorianJul-23-2017 9:48 AMLet’s try to find the balance!
Since Daszkowski hasn't changed the title of his topic (http://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/45966), I’ve decided to inform our readers about the facts.
Without knowing the Japanese numbers and the relevant blu-ray income, the Fox decision in question seems to be an utter nonsense.
The comments are taken from the topic mentioned:
By Kethol:
’I just read that article. It says "sources say Fox will have to reassess two intended sequels".So Fox has said nothing of the sort. THR did.’
’It does not say Fox "is reassessing". Two of the articles just reference THR. THR just says "Fox will have to reassess", but there has been no statement from Fox about anything. It just sounds like typical unsourced Hollywood media opinion to me.’
By Membrane:
’Correct. There have been no official statements from Fox Studios at this time regarding a "reassessment" of the 'Alien' franchise.’
By me:
’Kethol, I'm with you, the line
"sources say Fox will have to reassess two intended sequels"
equals to
’my friends say Fox should reassess two planned movies'...
Plus, why would they say something similar before the Japanese opening and the blu-ray release? I'm sure they will announce something official about the future movies after this September.’
By Kethol:
’All the aggregate movie scoring websites show the majority of audience and reviewers liked Covenant.
IMDB = 6.7 out of 10
Tomatometer - 71% score
Metascore = 65 score
Fandango = 4.5 out of 5’
By Ingeniero:
’I agreed with the analysis Ati.
In addition to the Alien: Covenant Blue-ray, the release of the VR experience is coming soon. I love to theorize...so I say putting the Occulus on sale for 60 days might have something to do with the release of Alien: Covenant VR.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/10/oculus-rift-and-touch-controllers-on-sale-for-399-through-summer/
Alien: Covenant was on time, in budget, and profitable and the Blue-ray is coming out roughly 100 days after the movie's release in May 2017. The virtual reality experience is most likely going to be mind-blowing...so a great lasting commercial for Blue-ray sales of Alien: Covenant.
Nothing is dead except Carter Burke. The Alien: Covenant sequel novel comes out the following month in September 2017. I still say that Ridley Scott filmed more than he's telling in 2016 and we could get another prequel film (Alien: Awakening) more quickly than the critics forecast.’
By Lawrence of Arabia:
'Fox hasn't made an official statement and Covenant did relatively well all things considered. I want to see Awakening and whatever Ridley has planned. David is a fantastic antagonist and I'm not getting the hate for this film. Every film thus far has had fallible characters make unlucky decisions, that's just humanity and part of what makes the film great. If the humans were smart they wouldn't be killed by Xenos. The Xenomorphs prey on our weaknesses and it's cool to watch them tear people to shreds. I digress, Rebooting or retconing Scott's films at this point is unwise and rude, the man created this franchise. Yes, Dan O' Bannon and Ron Shussett wrote the original screenplay but if they did things their way we would have a B-Movie by the name of StarBeast with a totally different monster. Scott got Fox to raise the budget, he got Giger on board, he dealt with the companies hounding, built the sets, and still pulled off a classic. Some are right, Alien isn't Blade Runner but to say the AIs don't play in integral role in the franchise is wrong. Scotts just looking for something fresh for the franchise and the route he's chosen is an interesting one. Most I know are disappointed with the lack of answers or Engineers from Prometheus which Scott said will play a vital role in the next film. Let's wait and see and enjoy the ride.'
BigDave
MemberDeaconJan-11-2018 4:23 AMLegend what a movie that was...
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Thoughts_Dreams
MemberNeomorphJan-11-2018 7:54 AMOh what the hell, since this thread got dug up I will join the discussion.
First I will update the scores for AC in the sources shown above.
IMDB 6,5/10 (2018-01-09)
Tomatometer 56/100 (2018-01-09)
Metascore 65/100 (2018-01-09)
Fandango 3,5/5 (2018-01-09)
As you can see a lot of the scores have lowered for the movie which I think is a good thing since I did not like it that much. I do not consider myself a hater I am simply thinking about the movie, what I liked and did not like and no it does not get higher than a 2 out of 5 because there were too many disappointments in it. People are allowed to have their opinions but the movie has too high ratings. To me it is not even near that level.
The blu-ray was mentioned, I have not bothered to buy it. It is not even worth to buy, that is how it is to me since I can only speak for myself and how I see it.
I am getting tired of David, give me better human characters and less robots. Humans can be smart and still get killed. There are ideas that I have and that I think are better than the movie is and also other fan ideas that are a lot better.
"Members on the forum have better ideas imo." DK
I agree, the way that Scott wants to take it is mildly speaking not too good.
Ati: What kind of dark forces are you talking about?
To me currently the dark forces are Scott and Fox that are effing up the franchise with their crappy David things.
ali81
MemberNeomorphJan-11-2018 8:06 AMif David was a character introduced in BR2049 then fine. that's what the BR movies are about, AI. alien is not regardless of whether these are prequels or not. RS gave us the engineers and the black goo so make it about them, not some delusional synthetic with daddy issues
Thoughts_Dreams
MemberNeomorphJan-11-2018 8:29 AM"RS gave us the engineers and the black goo so make it about them, not some delusional synthetic with daddy issues"
Exactly this, hell they even remind us of the SJ in how they look so there is probably some connection there. The black goo is interesting so they can expand more on that. I am not sure if we can trust David on it since he is a crazy robot (unreliable narrator I think is the term Michelle J used). Move on from the David story, make it more about the Engineers and their connection to the SJ.
