Fox Reassessing Ridley Scott’s Planned ‘Alien’ Movies
Posted Jul-21-2017 7:35 AM
It’s been a summer of franchises that might have made okay money (largely thanks to international ticket sales) but left audiences disappointed. “Transformers: The Last Knight,” “The Mummy,” and “Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales” all fall into that category, but “Alien: Covenant” is its own special thing. Not only was the sequel to “Prometheus“/long lead prequel to “Alien” a box office disappointment (it earned nearly $200 million less than its predecessor worldwide), but it arguably severely damaged the brand. Ridley Scott spent the press tour promising at least two more followups, and boldly stated the next film would be in front of cameras within 14 months. However, that may not be happening.
THR reveals that Fox is going to “reassess” what they’re doing with Scott’s two planned “Alien” movies. At the moment, the director is shooting “All The Money In The World” which he is racing to complete in time for the awards season, and after that he’s apparently expected to film the adaptation of Don Winslow‘s drug drama “The Cartel.” If that’s the case, it certainly means the “Alien” franchise is going to be on ice for a while, and by the sounds of it, Fox is considering whether or not they want to proceed with the rest of the narrative Scott has planned out.
Certainly, the “Alien” franchise isn’t going to hibernate. It’s far too valuable for them to leave to the side, but I bet Neill Blomkamp‘s scrapped “Alien” movie is looking more enticing with each passing day. It would certainly be a way to revive the franchise and bring Sigourney Weaver‘s Ripley back to the big screen. That alone would restore the excitement to the series that seems to have faded.
Posted Jul-21-2017 9:12 AM
The franchise is cursed.
Fox need to RS booked in to finish this up so they can move forward.
We had a u-turn after Prometheus and we got A:C
Now the person who was delivering this vision is off doing other things. So either Fox dont want him or RS dont see it as a priority.
Fans lose every time
EDIT: Ripley return is a bad idea on so many levels IMO
Take This.... This is the blood of our lord
Posted Jul-21-2017 9:19 AM
At this point, from my pointy of view, we really have nothing to lose. I have lost faith in RS. He shoots a great movie but these stories are way off the mark. Hell, I'd be for starting from scratch with one, brand new single Alien prequel...then follow up with something after Aliens.
Posted Jul-21-2017 9:43 AM
I liked 'Prometheus', but did not like 'Alien: Covenant' (same for my wife, who is not as big a fan as I am). I think Fox should allow Ridley Scott one more movie to redeem himself and tie everything in to 'Alien'. Leaving it hang where it is now would be a poor decision as I think it would alienate (pun intended) fans of both movies and the franchise as a whole. I personally would like to see the Engineers get much more screen time in the tie in from 'Alien: Covenant' to 'Alien' if it ever happens.
And sorry Blomkamp, I am done with Ripley. I have no interest in her story.
Posted Jul-21-2017 9:50 AM
Yes, according to THR (The Hollywood Reporter) sources, Fox is reassessing two intended sequels. I think only one is warranted... a tie in from 'Alien: Covenant' to 'Alien' and be done with it. However, it may require a 2 1/2 hour movie.
Posted Jul-21-2017 1:11 PM
Kethol, I'm with you, the line
"sources say Fox will have to reassess two intended sequels"
'my friends say Fox should reassess two planned movies'...
Plus, why would they say something similar before the Japanese opening and the blu-ray release? I'm sure they will announce something official about the future movies after this September.
So, Daszkowski, please delete/change the title of your topic! :D
Posted Jul-21-2017 5:33 PM
Most of the audience did not like Covenant. Now it even holds a "rotten" score of 59% from the audience at rottentomatoes. And all the top reviews from imdb are nothing but hate. As the article says, the film inflicted great damage to the franchise and 20th Century Fox won't greenlight anything that further damages the brand.
Posted Jul-21-2017 6:16 PM
I don't get it.....I loved AC. I liked Prometheus.I can't remember a big budget movie this devicive.
Only critique I have is the CGI could have been better and I think AC would have benefited from an extra 20 or so minutes.
I want a sprawling epic 3 1/2 hour movie next to wrap it up.
Posted Jul-21-2017 10:59 PM
That tears it...
I am formally de-coupling my interpretation of the ALIENverse from FOX's trainwreck. They have no idea WTF they're doing, and I'm doing trying to play catch-up to the indecisive, random-wander way they've been handling it.
Folks can consider mine an alternative-universe, or whatever, but my works will no longer be bonded to the laughably disorganized 'Canon'.
a bunch of monkeys could helm this franchise better.
*Man's giant leap was just a stumble in the dark.*
Posted Jul-22-2017 1:10 AM
Too bad,... I really hope that Scott could make two more or at least more to finish what he has started. The smaller budget wouldn't really affect his creativity. I think it would be interesting to see what could be possible. On the other side, Blomkamp could get his chance and thats good. I watched Elysium some days ago and it's pretty good. A fresh vision, good-looking production design and social criticism.
Posted Jul-22-2017 6:55 AM
Haha this franchise is dead. Congrats Ridley, you should have stuck to your guns when you said "the beast was cooked". It certainly is now. Overcooked, even. Prometheus 2 would have performed so much better.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched Androids blow and finger each other's flutes.
Posted Jul-22-2017 7:11 AM
Same old crap.
The mental midgets told us how bad Alien3 was and how it killed the franchise !!1!
No more Alien movies!!! Lol!
The mental midgets told us how bad Alien:Ressurection was and how it killed the franchise !!1!
No more Alien movies!!! Lol!
The mental midgets told us how bad Prometheus was and how it killed the franchise !!1!
No more Alien movies!!! Lol!
The mental midgets told us how bad Alien: Covenant was and how it killed the franchise !!1!
No more Alien movies!!! Lol!
Posted Jul-22-2017 8:03 AM
I think any future prequel film would be better off without Ridley as director, he's made too many changes which I think were mistakes, at least for me.
Removing the engineer speaks scene springs to mind.
The problem though, is he never reads reviews of his work, so he never learns from his mistakes, he's too cocky and arrogant.
Posted Jul-22-2017 8:23 AM
@joylitt - "Most of the audience did not like Covenant."
Me thinks your math may be a bit off :) 59% is more than 41%, but RT has turned into a hate fest and personally I care for how their scores are skewed. All the aggregate movie scoring websites show the majority of audience and reviewers liked Covenant.
IMDB = 6.7 out of 10
Tomatometer - 71% score
Metascore = 65 score
Fandango = 4.5 out of 5
IMDB is much more representative of the average movie goer than the other aggregate sites and Metascore is the same on the reviewer side. I actually think Amazon's user review scoring hit's the mark of how the public feels about a movie much better, especially since they come from after the marketing hype is over. Even this early with the DVD/Blu Ray/streaming not even out, they show 4.5 out of 5 stars.
In the real world (not on the web) I know 8 people who have seen it so far. Two of them loved it. The rest liked it but not as much as Prometheus. None disliked it. They were hoping for a direct continuation of Prometheus, as I was.
Posted Jul-22-2017 1:02 PM
Alien Covenant was garbage with gore. It deserved to tank at the box office. I loved where Ridley Scott was trying to take the franchise with Prometheus. I thought it was beautiful and deserved a sequel better than the gore (bore) fest of AC. I wanted Engineers and instead I got giant killers insects, an insane android, and another idiotic crew. If Fox allows him to do another one, expect more f the same nonsense.
Right now I'm more intrigued by whatever Neil Blomkamp has written for Sigourney Weaver, who is the heart and soul of the Alien universe. If done well that film would be incredible to watch.
Posted Jul-22-2017 3:37 PM
There is only a 3-year window in which any Ripley-focused Alien movie can be made - EVER. I hated Alien Covenant & was lukewarm to Prometheus. Scott had his comeback chance twice. The only Alien movie I'm curious about anymore is one that shows us an alt timeline after Aliens & featuring Ripley. Fox, please do that one! There's no where but up after AC and AR.
Posted Jul-22-2017 3:53 PM
I agreed with the analysis Ati.
In addition to the Alien: Covenant Blue-ray, the release of the VR experience is coming soon. I love to theorize...so I say putting the Occulus on sale for 60 days might have something to do with the release of Alien: Covenant VR.
Alien: Covenant was on time, in budget, and profitable and the Blue-ray is coming out roughly 100 days after the movie's release in May 2017. The virtual reality experience is most likely going to be mind-blowing...so a great lasting commercial for Blue-ray sales of Alien: Covenant.
Nothing is dead except Carter Burke. The Alien: Covenant sequel novel comes out the following month in September 2017. I still say that Ridley Scott filmed more than he's telling in 2016 and we could get another prequel film (Alien: Awakening) more quickly than the critics forecast.
Posted Jul-22-2017 6:16 PM
I think if we throw our support behind the franchise and voice our opinions to 20th Century Fox they won't just leave it hanging.
Alien: Covenant was't what I expected it to be, but I don't dislike it so much as to see this story left unfinished.
I just wished Ridley Scott stuck to his guns and finished telling the story we wanted to hear when we got a view of the snippet that became the prologue: The Crossing.
I felt that really could have been something, now we will never know.
Posted Jul-22-2017 9:34 PM
Ninxen, I think people may say some of the films aren't great but I love them all except for Covenant. It is so pretentious and has crap characters that behave like they were teleported from the local bar. Hope Fox takes a breather and please give the keys to somebody else. The next by Scott is gonna be all Fassbinder anyways and we're mostly over that since he's the only character/story he gives a shit about. Even a dumpster fire can be entertaining but I won't support another one from Ridley. He peed in his own Cheerios rushing this one and not accepting criticism from Prometheus......it's a flop and deservedly so
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