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WHY DOESNT RIPLEY GET KILLED IN ESCAPE SHUTTLE IMMEDIATELY

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ridinvail

Jul-05-2017 4:49 PM

Hey guys, Why didn't  the xenomorph kill ripley right away in the escape shuttle. It almost looks injured. The biologist in me says its going thru another molten process like bugs on earth do. I have looked it up on you tube and get no answers. When she first sees it and the xenomorph sees  it does nothing but sit there.  I BET ANYTHING BIG DAVE OR MR SECRETIVE VIVISECTED ENGINEER HAS THE ANSWER TO THIS. 

 

 

27 Responses to WHY DOESNT RIPLEY GET KILLED IN ESCAPE SHUTTLE IMMEDIATELY

Lawrence of Arabia

Jul-05-2017 5:09 PM

I never understood why the Xenomorph just decided to take a nap and let Ripley walk about either, if that's what you mean lol

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

dk

Jul-05-2017 5:19 PM

I thought the Xeno accomplished its mission so to speak after it made the egg morph (although that was only in the director's cut). It may have sensed things were going wrong when the alarms were sounding during the self destruction sequence. The kicker is if it was going to die anyway, why would it stow away on the escape ship and not just curl up on the Nostromo?

I think back then, they filmed it the way they did not knowing the series would become what it has.

I Raptus

Jul-05-2017 5:43 PM

If you subscribe to the whole battery acid for blood theory (ref: Fifield question)  as a form of energy production (in lieu of food) you could assume the xeno was there to die, having just about depleted its energy reserves. Would also explain why it was so lethargic and slow....it was literally running out of batteries. 

Lawrence of Arabia

Jul-05-2017 5:45 PM

Poor little guy got pooped from massacring a crew and felt he could always get Ripley after a nap. ;)

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

dk

Jul-05-2017 6:07 PM

Big Chap was always pretty slow except for when it made of with Brett.

I figure it would have died by itself until Ripley poked the hornets' nest.

airshaft_surprise

Jul-05-2017 6:12 PM

@Lawrence of Arabia, lol!

Imagine it pyjamas and a little alarm clock next to its head ticking away! hahahaha.

He could have been trying to camouflage amongst the conduits & pipes or about to hibernate, ridinvail thats an interesting concept, it is suppose to be an ever evolving lifeform so its not out of the question.

JonesRules

Jul-05-2017 6:47 PM

Maybe, having a highly-evolved instinct (for its own survival and continuation of the species, among other things), the monster sensed that Nostromo was no longer a safe playground and figured it might be safer where the woman and the cat retreated. So it followed and maybe even sensed that the woman could fly them somewhere where it could continue its good work (kill, morph, procreate, whatever). And was hiding until Ripley found it.

That is however not exactly in line with the originally intended ending of the film (the beast killing Ripley).

dk

Jul-05-2017 7:36 PM

JonesRules I agree with your point and have read basically the same idea here and there.

I am glad the xeno didn't kill Ripley as originally planned although we wouldn't have the mess we have now LOL!

I Raptus

Jul-05-2017 8:32 PM

Im telling you 5 more minutes and that xeno would be cooked...out of batteries like Johnny 5 after taking a beat-down ;p

let's see how many 80/90's kids are on here and remember the happy fellow....

 

ali81

Jul-05-2017 11:29 PM

some believe the xeno went onto the shuttle for a quiet place to die. personally I think it was more intelligent than is depicted and somehow knew it was in danger and knew that the survivors were going to leave so it stowed away so it could morph the survivors on the shuttle. it didn't really have any need to be quick about doing this as there really wasn't anywhere the survivors could go as they were stuck on the shuttle. it could take its time once it sensed there was only one survivor and probably didn't regard ripley as much of a threat.

ali81

Jul-05-2017 11:30 PM

or could have just been having a siesta after its last meal

hox

Jul-06-2017 5:58 AM

Yeah, it was just having a quiet nap. Then when it woke up, it decided to show the puny human how it was in complete control, and gave us the terrifying slow motion pseudo-sexual performance.

BigDave

Jul-06-2017 7:46 AM

I think it can be interpreted as a number of things...

The Organism was hiding away so that when Ripley Left it could then (after it has rested) use her for what ever purpose or Agenda it had... Kill or use to create a Egg etc.

But RS had said at one point that the Xenomorph had performed its usefulness and was in the process of dying.

Which we have to ask why did it go to the Shuttle if it was going to Die?   Maybe in Death its Body becomes something else and so Restarts the chain of events?

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Ingeniero

Jul-06-2017 11:59 AM

I remember Johnny 5 IRaptus from Short Circuit. I like Fisher Stevens too...he was great in Hackers.

jdvyne

Jul-06-2017 12:27 PM

I think it sensed that something was going on. This is for the following reasons:

On her way to the Narcissus Ripley almost stumpled over the alien. She left Jones there and returned to turn the cooling system of the Nostromo on again. While she's on her way back there's a scene where the alien took a close look at Jones in the box and as I interpred that scene, it was to imply, that the alien squared one (if I remember correctly it was just a few meters from the door to the Narcissus (which was propably open, since Ripley has started the computers some minutes earlier).

I think it went there to hide, since it felt that the last human was trying to get on that little ship. Being suspicious the alien just went in there to hide so it could be taken to a new place. When taking her clothes off Ripley came so close to the alien, that the alien felt it was out of danger and hiding would no longer be necessary - neither would be hurrying since the human could not escape.

 

Of course it could also have gone there to die but then why go there and not somewhere in the ore refinary or something.

I Raptus

Jul-06-2017 2:07 PM

Ingeniero yay for Short circuit!!

jdvyne I like your idea with Jonesy, remember in Alien 3 Ripley notes that the runner "It's like a lion. Sticks close to the zebras."

Perhaps also the shuttle was just the warmest part of the ship, with Ripley having fired it up for her escape? 

Im Durp

Jul-06-2017 3:32 PM

Plot convenience is the short answer

Facehuggers

Jul-06-2017 4:10 PM

I think the strobe lighting on the Narcissus may have triggered a trance in the Xenomorph, hence its lethargy.

JOHNNYMORPH

Jul-06-2017 4:52 PM

I thought I read somewhere that Xenomorphs could live for 150-200 years. On an evolutionary scale, it doesn't seem very smart to go through so many stages (egg/facehugger/chestburster/full-grown) only for the organism to just die after a few days.

If we relate it to lifeforms on Earth, some small insects only live for a few days, but then large tortoises can live for maybe 150 years. Surely a large xenomorph could live more than 72 hours?

BigDave

Jul-07-2017 4:17 AM

I think a lot has to do with how it has evolved from Star Beast, with Star Beast it was hinting that the Organism can mature as it gets older to become intelligent and even form a civilization and so could live for a longer period.

But after we got Alien in 1979 it was then portrayed as a Weapon by RS and he had on a few times said they have like a 3-4 day Life Cycle.   Which would be ideal for a Purposely Engineered Weapon which i think even as today RS is going down this route that the Xenomorph is a Bio-Weapon Creation and so its creation is to be used as a eradication Tool.

This may just apply to the Xenomorph however... and not the Origins of the Black Goo or maybe other creations from it.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Kethol

Jul-07-2017 8:40 AM

The Alien was not hiding in the script. It was just going to jump out at her. As I recall reading, they were trying to find a way to make it hidden so that Ripley and the audience would not see it and it would be a surprise. They tried hiding it in the storage locker and other places, but nothing worked. Someone suggested they hide it in the set dressing and make part of the set look like the alien head, so they did that and it blended right in.

Ridley said Ripley “killed it, but it would have died soon anyway” due to the limited life span, so I always assumed that was simply his explanation as to why it was hidden in the duct work. It was going there to go dormant or die.

 

VivisectedEngineer

Jul-07-2017 8:50 AM

OMG :D :D :D my name was mentioned!!! ...and I nearly missed it!  I feel so honored!

 

I think the Xeno was possibly not that hungry at the moment, having just eaten Lambert.

 

Also, I think it's more intelligent than people give it credit for. It wanted Riley to start the escape shuttle up, so it had a chance of getting to somewhere else populated before killing her.

MonsterZero

Jul-07-2017 3:57 PM

Wow! I really like the short life cycle angle.

Wonder if the body decays and then releases the acid? Have to make sure you clear out any dead aliens before you take off.

Maybe the acid blood has a fossilizing agent, after a week or so it turns hard as stone?

BigDave

Jul-07-2017 5:02 PM

I think they can surely change things as they go along.. especially of RS kind of makes more movies that De-Canonize Aliens... which i hope they dont do.

But my point being that what if the Xenomorph when its Life-cycle completes... it dies and its Acid Blood then breaks down its Genetic Material to allow for some other Stage so the Organism can Procreate.

Its maybe hard to visualise, but what if a Egg Grows from its remains?

I think its easier to consider what if the Neomorph had a limited Span, or even after being killed too... the Body then breaks down and from its remains Spouts more Spores.

This would indeed in affect make the Organism a Living Walking Killing Deadly Virus.

"Maybe the acid blood has a fossilizing agent, after a week or so it turns hard as stone?"

Interesting idea... that would be interesting to see... maybe similar explains those Engineers bodies in Alien Covenant?

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

MonsterZero

Jul-07-2017 5:09 PM

"Interesting idea... that would be interesting to see... maybe similar explains those Engineers bodies in Alien Covenant?"

Or the Space Jockey exit wound. If it's a recent event?

BigDave

Jul-07-2017 5:20 PM

Indeed could explain the reason why it was Petrified looking, well ossified maybe as it never looked Fossilized, the Space Jockey to me did not look like a Skeleton... if it was then its a bit of a strange and crappy one... the Rips looks like Bone, and the Helmet looked like a Skeleton.. but the other parts seemed to be connected to the Chair... maybe it could be connections that connected beneath the Skin and then the Space Jockey became a Fossil... but i never thought so.

To me it was like a Exoskeleton and so i was drawn to this... but also i wondered if it was a Suit too... but certainly back in the day i thought it was a Exoskeleton and was connected to the Xenomorph and Ship as the 3 was connected.

So i would assume a Dead Xenomorph after thousands of years would also turn out looking similar.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

Jul-07-2017 5:33 PM

But when Prometheus came out, i had speculated from clues given that the Suits was somehow Part Organic..  And so i consider the Suits where Organic to a degree...

so i had the following analogy how how those Engineer Suits in Prometheus would eventually become like the Space Jockey.   And i used these to get the point across.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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