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Gay Kiss Cut From Chinese Version of Alien: Covenant

Gay Kiss Cut From Chinese Version of Alien: Covenant

Ripleys_Ghost

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Posted Jun-18-2017 11:28 AM

Gay Kiss Cut From Chinese Version of Alien: Covenant

http://io9.gizmodo.com/gay-kiss-cut-from-chinese-version-of-alien-covenant-1796204589


"Over the years, the Chinese government has implemented censorship laws on films and shows, under the guise of protecting children from sexual or violent imagery. Chinese TV shows are forbidden from showing gay relationships, but films don’t have the same restriction. Even so, it’s not surprising that the kiss between David and Walter was cut, as censors err on the side of restrictive when it comes to LGBT representation. Brokeback Mountain was denied a release for its depiction of a gay relationship, and Best Picture winner Moonlight’s prospects of getting a release are slim-to-none by this point."

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Draconus Tyrannus

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Posted Jun-18-2017 11:41 AM

What the Hell?

Savage.

 

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ALIEN1979

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Posted Jun-18-2017 12:36 PM

Well, that scene was so useless anyway.

Instead,  Ridley should have kept other more story relevant Scenes. 

A L I E N 4 2 6

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Posted Jun-18-2017 1:21 PM

Ah typical westerners not understanding of different cultures. lol you're adorable 

Draconus Tyrannus

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Posted Jun-18-2017 1:33 PM

^No my reaction was because I was confused as to why someone would make a thread about this xD

Savage.

 

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Ripleys_Ghost

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Posted Jun-18-2017 2:14 PM

No, I'm not the guy on here that has a raging boner for Fassbender. LOL.  Nor am I the guy that wants a gender-queer actor to play Weyland.

I just figured that it was newsworthy.  Nice save, though!

 

Lawrence of Arabia

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Posted Jun-18-2017 2:34 PM

That kiss was such an integral scene for David, showing his developing feelings and his frustration with his inability to properly express it. The Chinese are weird lol

MonsterZero

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Posted Jun-18-2017 2:56 PM

It's an extreme horror scene for Raging Alpha male types.

But I don't want any romance/bro-mance in any A L I E N movie...Or little children.

Ati

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Posted Jun-18-2017 3:24 PM

Some people say it is not a gay kiss, but a Judas kiss or a kiss of death, or a Blade Runner kiss, etc... But I think it's not so important...

Sexuality can be seen as a way of communication, so I think Lawrence of Arabia's comment is a very good summary of the scene in question. At the same time we shouldn't forget that David kisses Daniels as well. That's why I say that it is pointless to claim that David is gay or bi or hetero, because these scenes do not want to reveal these possibilities.

In my opinion, these scenes are there to show that David has become sexual, he has become more human.

Look at David in Prometheus, I mean look at how he is shown, look at his uniform, do you see his body? And look at David in Alien Covenant. First scene: tight uniform, muscles, upper body, leg, ass. And look at his appearance on planet 4, after the hair-cut, look at how he is shown again. You see everything, and I'm sure it was an intentional approach applied by the filmmakers. The key word is creation, David has to look sexual. And Fassbender delivers the ingredients, no doubt.

You have a boner or not, all the same.

Ripleys_Ghost

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Posted Jun-18-2017 4:39 PM

@Ati: "Look at David in Prometheus, I mean look at how he is shown, look at his uniform, do you see his body? And look at David in Alien Covenant. First scene: tight uniform, muscles, upper body, leg, ass. And look at his appearance on planet 4, after the hair-cut, look at how he is shown again..."

Didn't even notice that.


@Ati: "You have a boner or not, all the same."

No, it makes a world of difference.

"I'll do the fingering" - David 8

 

tdby2

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Posted Jun-18-2017 4:55 PM

Good for future of children.

sosse

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Posted Jun-18-2017 4:57 PM

nice drawing

auximenes

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Posted Jun-19-2017 12:09 AM

That waggly-fingered Data .gif is great.

Lilly (Svanya)

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Posted Jun-19-2017 6:47 AM

"Look at David in Prometheus, I mean look at how he is shown, look at his uniform, do you see his body? And look at David in Alien Covenant. First scene: tight uniform, muscles, upper body, leg, ass. And look at his appearance on planet 4, after the hair-cut, look at how he is shown again...-Ati"

Didn't even notice that."-Ripleys_Ghost 

Trust me, I noticed, lol. So did every other woman I know who watched the movies. XD

"In my opinion, these scenes are there to show that David has become sexual, he has become more human."-Ati

I agree with you on that. There were hints of it in Prometheus. Also, the novel elaborates on how he wants to be sexual with Daniels, and it hints that he was with Shaw. It is depicted as being against both women's wills as well, which is highly disturbing.

 

BigDave

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Posted Jun-19-2017 7:30 AM

This is just how some Cultures are different, overall it does affect how a movie can be portrayed as having Scenes Cut for this purposes can lead to a big difference compared to Un-cut movies.

I hope that the only AWAKENING we are in for is FOX/RS wake up and learn from their mistakes.

Kethol

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Posted Jun-19-2017 7:45 AM

@Ati "Some people say it is not a gay kiss, but a Judas kiss or a kiss of death, or a Blade Runner kiss, etc..."

That's exactly what it was. I expected Walter's head to be crushed right after he did that. Got a death punch instead, but same intent. 

"That's the spirit" - Roy Batty, 2019

"That's the spirit" - David 8, 2104

Snake

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Posted Jun-19-2017 9:56 AM

LOL at the op's thread pic! AHAHAHA :)

But seriously, a country this powerfull is still some kind of dictatorship where freedom of art/press/speech isn't allowed (to a certain extent). 

It's very disturbing when you think about it...

Jonesy

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Posted Jun-19-2017 9:58 AM

Agree with Ati

I hate David killed off Walter instantly after the kiss. It's kinda pretentious to me and trying to take off the sexuality thing.

Kethol

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Posted Jun-19-2017 10:23 AM

I think 90% of the people could probably care less who kisses who.

I don't recall sci-fi fans having an issue with Batty kissing Tyrell in Blade Runner?

Lilly (Svanya)

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Posted Jun-19-2017 1:24 PM

@Ripleys_Ghost Who painted that pic you used, i'd like to credit them if possible.

The only kiss in the movie that should be disturbing to anyone is the one David forces on Daniels.

 

tdby2

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Posted Jun-19-2017 1:52 PM

Next time use lesbians for pointless kissing scene mr. Scott at least females watchable when doing that ehehe.

Ripleys_Ghost

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Posted Jun-19-2017 4:05 PM

@Lilly (Svanya): "Trust me, I noticed, lol. So did every other woman I know who watched the movies. XD"... "Who painted that pic you used, i'd like to credit them if possible."

I thought that you ladies were attracted to less tangible qualities like personality and character?  Haha... Anyway, he looks like a Perfect Ayrian - David Bowie - Gay Wet Dream-come true. LOL

I did a reverse image search on the main photo (painting).  This might be the source:

https://twitter.com/noonrema


 

Ripleys_Ghost

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Posted Jun-19-2017 4:09 PM

@Ati "Some people say it is not a gay kiss, but a Judas kiss or a kiss of death, or a Blade Runner kiss, etc..."
 
@Kethol "That's exactly what it was. I expected Walter's head to be crushed right after he did that. Got a death punch instead, but same intent."

 - Keep in mind that Daviud has a screw loose; he's exploring his 'sexuality' which is probably just some of his code getting corrupted with 60 years of cobwebs.

Walter ain't dead... at least his chassis isn't.  Of course Sir Ridly is likely to pull another retcon and we;ll have to pretend that we didn't see this:

David has a puncture wound.  Walter does not.  The right picture shows the android back on the Covenant after they leave the planet.

BigDave

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Posted Jun-19-2017 4:32 PM

"David has a puncture wound.  Walter does not.  The right picture show the android back on the Covenant after they leave the planet."

Indeed its a visual clue that allows us to wonder if David transferred his mind instead.... however RS confirmed this never happened and the Hole/No Hole is a Oversight.

Which with RS we have to get used to BIG TIME... The Eyes of the Engineers in Paradise and Size etc is another one.

I hope that the only AWAKENING we are in for is FOX/RS wake up and learn from their mistakes.

Ripleys_Ghost

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Posted Jun-19-2017 4:40 PM

@tdby2: "Good for future of children."

haha... no kidding. At least Commander Data had the right idea:

Data Gets Laid

 

Ati

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Posted Jun-19-2017 4:50 PM

Ripleys_Ghost: 'I thought that you ladies were attracted to less tangible qualities like personality and character?'

Ughh, how careless I am, I looked at your user name and thought you are a woman.

Ati

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Posted Jun-19-2017 5:05 PM

'"I'll do the fingering" - David 8' - by Ripleys_Ghost

I think there's no need to shout the sexual/homosexual connotation again and again with the aim to generate clash between the members of the site.

With the sentence 'I'll do the fingering.' David wants to convey the message that 'Walter, come into my world. Be my partner in the future. Let's rule the galaxy. Follow me and I'll show you everything. I am the boss, I'll tell you what to do." That's all.

joylitt

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Posted Jun-19-2017 5:15 PM

Ati Oh please. The writers and Fassbender have confirmed there was a sexual connotation in that scene. Just live with it.

BigDave

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Posted Jun-19-2017 5:20 PM

Well having seen the movie 3 times it came across to me that scene was a bit camp, and came across a bit comical innuendo like we was watching a Carry on Movie... a bit of Tongue in Cheek..

Was it meant to imply a Sexual innuendo? who knows.. but it does come across a bit like that... its how it was interpreted by some.... who knows if this was the intention though.. only Fassbender and RS would know.

So David did come across a bit Camp....  like in the video i linked LOL

I think it was a bit too much, but then it kind of allowed Fassbender to explore a new role with David, one where he seems to be getting in touch with his Sexuality, which i know kind of does not sit well with some fans.. and there is certainly no need for any Homophobic Comments towards him, but certainly he was portrayed as a confused robot.. whos Emotions are getting out of control.

And i think in part you have to applaud some of these changes they made to the Character... very risky route and it did kind of bring a Camp side to David which i felt was interesting to a degree.... but somethings may have came across a bit comical..

PS i have nothing against Camp-ness... i am actually fond of a lot of Camp Artist and i find Guy Pearce's Pricilla Queen of the Desert a very entertaining movie...

I hope that the only AWAKENING we are in for is FOX/RS wake up and learn from their mistakes.

Ati

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Posted Jun-19-2017 5:22 PM

joylitt

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Posted Jun-19-2017 5:33 PM

Ati Oooops haha You know what I mean. Anyway whoever doesn't like David being gay can go do the fingering to themselves.

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Ridley Scott returns to the universe he created in ALIEN with ALIEN: COVENANT, the second chapter in a prequel trilogy that began with PROMETHEUS -- and connects directly to Scott’s 1979 seminal work of science fiction. Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy, the crew of the colony ship Covenant discovers what they think is an uncharted paradise, but is actually a dark, dangerous world -- whose sole inhabitant is the "synthetic" David (Michael Fassbender), survivor of the doomed Prometheus expedition.

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