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Ripleys_Ghost

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Gay Kiss Cut From Chinese Version of Alien: Covenant

http://io9.gizmodo.com/gay-kiss-cut-from-chinese-version-of-alien-covenant-1796204589


"Over the years, the Chinese government has implemented censorship laws on films and shows, under the guise of protecting children from sexual or violent imagery. Chinese TV shows are forbidden from showing gay relationships, but films don’t have the same restriction. Even so, it’s not surprising that the kiss between David and Walter was cut, as censors err on the side of restrictive when it comes to LGBT representation. Brokeback Mountain was denied a release for its depiction of a gay relationship, and Best Picture winner Moonlight’s prospects of getting a release are slim-to-none by this point."

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What the Hell?

"Part of the journey is the end..."

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ALIEN1979
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Well, that scene was so useless anyway.

Instead,  Ridley should have kept other more story relevant Scenes. 

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Ah typical westerners not understanding of different cultures. lol you're adorable 

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^No my reaction was because I was confused as to why someone would make a thread about this xD

"Part of the journey is the end..."

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No, I'm not the guy on here that has a raging boner for Fassbender. LOL.  Nor am I the guy that wants a gender-queer actor to play Weyland.

I just figured that it was newsworthy.  Nice save, though!

 

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That kiss was such an integral scene for David, showing his developing feelings and his frustration with his inability to properly express it. The Chinese are weird lol

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

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It's an extreme horror scene for Raging Alpha male types.

But I don't want any romance/bro-mance in any A L I E N movie...Or little children.

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Some people say it is not a gay kiss, but a Judas kiss or a kiss of death, or a Blade Runner kiss, etc... But I think it's not so important...

Sexuality can be seen as a way of communication, so I think Lawrence of Arabia's comment is a very good summary of the scene in question. At the same time we shouldn't forget that David kisses Daniels as well. That's why I say that it is pointless to claim that David is gay or bi or hetero, because these scenes do not want to reveal these possibilities.

In my opinion, these scenes are there to show that David has become sexual, he has become more human.

Look at David in Prometheus, I mean look at how he is shown, look at his uniform, do you see his body? And look at David in Alien Covenant. First scene: tight uniform, muscles, upper body, leg, ass. And look at his appearance on planet 4, after the hair-cut, look at how he is shown again. You see everything, and I'm sure it was an intentional approach applied by the filmmakers. The key word is creation, David has to look sexual. And Fassbender delivers the ingredients, no doubt.

You have a boner or not, all the same.

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@Ati: "Look at David in Prometheus, I mean look at how he is shown, look at his uniform, do you see his body? And look at David in Alien Covenant. First scene: tight uniform, muscles, upper body, leg, ass. And look at his appearance on planet 4, after the hair-cut, look at how he is shown again..."

Didn't even notice that.


@Ati: "You have a boner or not, all the same."

No, it makes a world of difference.

"I'll do the fingering" - David 8

 

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nice drawing

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That waggly-fingered Data .gif is great.

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"Look at David in Prometheus, I mean look at how he is shown, look at his uniform, do you see his body? And look at David in Alien Covenant. First scene: tight uniform, muscles, upper body, leg, ass. And look at his appearance on planet 4, after the hair-cut, look at how he is shown again...-Ati"

Didn't even notice that."-Ripleys_Ghost 

Trust me, I noticed, lol. So did every other woman I know who watched the movies. XD

"In my opinion, these scenes are there to show that David has become sexual, he has become more human."-Ati

I agree with you on that. There were hints of it in Prometheus. Also, the novel elaborates on how he wants to be sexual with Daniels, and it hints that he was with Shaw. It is depicted as being against both women's wills as well, which is highly disturbing.

Wat

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This is just how some Cultures are different, overall it does affect how a movie can be portrayed as having Scenes Cut for this purposes can lead to a big difference compared to Un-cut movies.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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@Ati "Some people say it is not a gay kiss, but a Judas kiss or a kiss of death, or a Blade Runner kiss, etc..."

That's exactly what it was. I expected Walter's head to be crushed right after he did that. Got a death punch instead, but same intent. 

"That's the spirit" - Roy Batty, 2019

"That's the spirit" - David 8, 2104

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LOL at the op's thread pic! AHAHAHA :)

But seriously, a country this powerfull is still some kind of dictatorship where freedom of art/press/speech isn't allowed (to a certain extent). 

It's very disturbing when you think about it...

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Agree with Ati

I hate David killed off Walter instantly after the kiss. It's kinda pretentious to me and trying to take off the sexuality thing.

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I think 90% of the people could probably care less who kisses who.

I don't recall sci-fi fans having an issue with Batty kissing Tyrell in Blade Runner?

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@Ripleys_Ghost Who painted that pic you used, i'd like to credit them if possible.

The only kiss in the movie that should be disturbing to anyone is the one David forces on Daniels.

Wat

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@Lilly (Svanya): "Trust me, I noticed, lol. So did every other woman I know who watched the movies. XD"... "Who painted that pic you used, i'd like to credit them if possible."

I thought that you ladies were attracted to less tangible qualities like personality and character?  Haha... Anyway, he looks like a Perfect Ayrian - David Bowie - Gay Wet Dream-come true. LOL

I did a reverse image search on the main photo (painting).  This might be the source:

https://twitter.com/noonrema


 

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@Ati "Some people say it is not a gay kiss, but a Judas kiss or a kiss of death, or a Blade Runner kiss, etc..."
 
@Kethol "That's exactly what it was. I expected Walter's head to be crushed right after he did that. Got a death punch instead, but same intent."

 - Keep in mind that Daviud has a screw loose; he's exploring his 'sexuality' which is probably just some of his code getting corrupted with 60 years of cobwebs.

Walter ain't dead... at least his chassis isn't.  Of course Sir Ridly is likely to pull another retcon and we;ll have to pretend that we didn't see this:

David has a puncture wound.  Walter does not.  The right picture shows the android back on the Covenant after they leave the planet.

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