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Scott moves on to Getty kidnapping movie while the ALIEN franchise is in limbo

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Barf The Mog

Jun-06-2017 1:35 PM

http://deadline.com/2017/05/ridley-scott-getty-kidnap-movie-stx-all-the-money-in-the-world-internationaol-rights-deal-1202091545/

What the heck is Ridley doing? He's abandoning ship to direct a movie about the Getty kidnapping story, probably in hopes for an Oscar. Christopher Nolan went three for three for Batman, why can't Scott maintain a steady focus for ALIEN.  This whole thing seems messy.

A casting side note - Ridley and FOX must get more A-listers for the next ALIEN film. I'm sorry, but the casting for Covenant was weak, aside from Fassbender, Waterson, and McBride. Fassbender stole the show, and we know Ridley loves Fassbender, and rightfully so. A few of those colonists better be some damn good actors! Scott's working with Kevin Spacey right now, maybe he could convince him to be in the next ALIEN film-- wishful thinking.

I am convinced that Scott is not as dedicated to ALIEN is he says he is. All of the sets from Covenant are most likely being stored in Australia, props as well, and there seems to a boatload of amazing unused concepts, so, is there any weight to what Ridley said about filming the next ALIEN installment in 14 months? I hope that we're not going have to wait five years for the next installment, and if we do, it better be a damn fine film, and we're talking an 87-95 tomato meter! A director's dedication to a franchise property as sensitive as ALIEN should be steadfast; I'm just worried that Scott's creationism curiosity from a nihilist's perspective might confuse the writers more.

http://www.fandango.com/movie-news/alien-bites-ridley-scott-begins-shooting-next-movie-in-14-months-covenant-vr-experience-and-more-752275

ALIEN: Origins (book) comes out Spet.26th, set between Prometheus and Covenant-- Is this the next film? or are they releasing the book to clean up their mess but not making it into an actual movie and will the next film will just continue from covenant?

Also, where did the engineers build their ships? There was no sign of engineer technology where David was living. Did they have an economy? What kind of food did they eat? Did they only eat wheat based foods? "What kind of toast would you like?" "Whole wheat please." How boring. 

Another question/thought/concern - The Xenomorph species can only survive through an abundance of hosts, right? And if they made it onto Earth, and killed everything, then what? What is their overarching plan? Or are they just killing machines without an agenda? They're referred to as being perfect, and we haven't seen why, yet.  Also, it seems to be that the Xeno thrives in humid and moist conditions, and probably detects heat as their primary guidance system. Ridley gave us some insight into how they see, which seems like clouded vision, almost as if they are slightly blind.

Giger painted the Xeno to be more of a sexual beast than how it has been portrayed in recent films.  The misleading poster for Covenant pays homage to Giger best. I know it has already been discussed here, but is that ALIEN/Engineer stone-like artwork a teaser for the next installment?

Any thoughts?

Thank you for your time.

14 Responses to Scott moves on to Getty kidnapping movie while the ALIEN franchise is in limbo

Jafo

Jun-06-2017 2:53 PM

He already has this movie and I believe another planned to direct this year.  So this wasn't something he just decided to do.  This was planned well beforehand.  I believe his schedule is still clear for another Alien movie. That's if Fox clear it.  He might not want to do another Alien movie after Covenants lack luster performance.

I Raptus

Jun-06-2017 2:55 PM

The Xenomorph can only survive through a host, right? And if they made it onto Earth, and killed everything, then what? What is their overarching plan, if they even have one? Or are they just killing machines without any agenda?

They are the ultimate survivors. Their agenda is simply to survive and propagate the species. That is what makes them so terrifying, they are indiscriminate, ruthless and utterly remorseless in this function.

I Raptus

Jun-06-2017 2:58 PM

And you are right. Ridley reckons he has enough material for 6 films leading up to ALIEN. If true he should have his head down and busily working through all that, with no time for side projects...

Jafo

Jun-06-2017 3:13 PM

I do agree though.  They need to pony up for a big draw actor.  The Mummy has a budget of $120 million and they got Tom Cruise.  You know he's a $20 million a film actor.  So if Sony can pony up a few dollars, keep the current budget for production.  A lot of actors would love to work with Ridley Scott.  I don't think Cruise has worked with Scott yet and you know he likes to work with iconic directors. They have a perfect opportunity to introduce the character.  Just have he or she be one of the ones that wake up from Cryo sleep unharmed.

mataleon

Jun-06-2017 3:19 PM

@Jafo...no please no Tom Cruise.  He is incredibly overrated and would not make sense as a fit for the franchise.  Simply paying for A list actors doesn't make a movie good.  There are plenty of terrible movies with an overabundance of A-list actors.  Neither Alien or Aliens had a massive movie star in them during their respective releases and they are revered.  

Starlogger

Jun-06-2017 3:26 PM

@mataleon absolutely right. If I ever see tom cruise in an Alien film, I'm bailing.

Barf The Mog

Jun-06-2017 3:48 PM

It would be pretty amazing to see Tom Cruise get the royal treatment from a facehugger.

I do feel pretty strong about an A-lister for the next ALIEN. The average movie goer is not going to see a film with what's her name, what's his name, or who's that one actor?

People went to see Prirates, again, for Depp. People will see The Mummy because of Tom Cruise, and I'm sure the movie will surely suck.

Imagine for a moment, in all realms of what if fantasy, that Kevin Spacey stars in the next ALIEN.   

Ripleys_Ghost

Jun-06-2017 4:32 PM

Interesting topic.  I think that Sir Ridley is probably regrouping after the mixed response that the latest film received.  Obviously, he has his own vision and goals.  Aside from his own goals, he has to please the investors and the audience.  Prometheus wasn't that well received, so we got an Alien movie along the more traditional lines in "Covenant", but people still aren't really satisfied.

I've said elsewhere that the "Engineers" story arc was pretty much dead when it became obvious that nobody liked the concept of "Jesus" as being an "Engineer".  So, The Engineers were all killed off, and they will become only a minor part of the story going forward, I think.

I also agree with everyone that the franchise needs some better acting talent and not just Star Trek "Red Shirts".  Character development is sorely lacking, and likeable characters are often killed off between movies.  I'd like to see some gritty, seasoned actors in the main parts.  Does anybody believe for a second that a person in their 30's would command a colonization vessel?  Or that a second in command would be in their barely out of their 30's?

Jafo

Jun-06-2017 7:17 PM

I use to hate Tom Cruise, but as time has gone by my opinion of him has changed. He's had some good roles and is a very good actor.  Movie's like Oblivion, Edge of Tomorrow were both very good I thought.   I was never a Mission Impossible fan.  It just depends on what kind of role the actor is cast in and if he or she is believable in that role.  Does his acting style fit or can he or she adapt to the role give.  Not saying they should select Cruise, but its obvious at this point just relying on the Alien is not going to get the general public back into the seats. 

They had their shot with something original in Prometheus, and that didn't work. Then Covenant they tried to revert back to the Alien, and that didn't work  So at this point I think any goodwill the franchise has is over and done.  You can have the best story or plot, but it's going to be tough to get the general public back unless you get someone with name recognition.  Then at least that get's their attention, combine that with a good story, some solid action and the franchise could come back.  Hell they could pull a Godzilla with Bryan Cranston.  We all thought he was going to play a major part of the movie then they kill him off half way through the movie.   However relying on the hardcore Alien Fan base is not going to be enough. 

joylitt

Jun-06-2017 7:36 PM

Jafo Sure.  Just imagine imagine you get a big name like Tom Cruise and then you start teasing in the trailers that he might or might not be Weyland's Corporation agent, or that he might or might not be an android, or that he might or might not give birth to a cherstburster. A lot of people would go to the theater just to find out. Fox didn't play their cards too well.

Ripleys_Ghost

Jun-06-2017 9:48 PM

Tom Cruise might be better than a lot of people would like to admit.  Just put aside his personal life and beliefs.

auximenes

Jun-06-2017 11:53 PM

Tom Cruise, no thanks. :(

Lone

Jun-07-2017 12:06 AM

Tom Cruise would probably draw in a certain demographic, but I'd be checking out! Plus he would cost far too much.

I'm not remotely interested in him, his personal life or beliefs. The reason I do not rate him is because he is not an actor.

He has a fake persona, it's the same for every movie, he plays Tom Cruise. What he is, is a show-off. Probably the biggest show-off in the world! 

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Lone

Jun-07-2017 12:13 AM

Ridley never stops working, he'll finish this project, have a ton of producing projects, both tv and film on the go too.

None of that will get in the way of Awakening. When/if  the time is right he will be ready to roll.

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

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