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Aliens – Can I Get Killed?

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Ati

Jun-01-2017 5:23 PM

The first draft (of Aliens) was handed into Fox in early 1984, and was received with enthusiasm by the studio. There was some sweat shed over the cost: Cameron’s partner and producer Gale Anne Hurd insisted the film could be made for around $15.5 million; Fox estimated it would total an unacceptable $35 million.

A bigger snag came when Cameron insisted that only Sigourney Weaver could play the lead. Fox protested that taking such a stance would allow Weaver a great deal of leverage over her pay, and that they would make Aliens without her if possible. In return, Cameron and Hurd left the project and, recently married, honeymooned to Hawaii.  “We assumed it was a dead issue,” said Hurd, “and when we left for Hawaii we thought the movie was off.” But when they returned they found that the movie was still on, and that Weaver had been approached to resume her role of Ripley. Weaver, having found the script suddenly dropped in her lap, was impressed enough with Ripley’s characterisation to sign on. “The emotional content is much greater in Aliens,” she said.

To begin with, Alien happened in space,” Cameron told Prevue magazine in ’86. “I wanted to take the character further, to know Ripley as a person, to see some depth and emotion. The movie is about her, every scene. It gets inside her mind, takes her back to face her own worst nightmare – and conquer it, so to speak. In a way, Aliens is about her revenge.”

Though the writing process was generally smooth, Cameron noted that “[Sigourney] tried to have an influence on Aliens, but it didn’t work! She said, ‘I don’t want to shoot a gun,’ I said, ‘No, you have to shoot a gun.’ ‘Oh, well, can I get killed?’ ‘No.’ When I saw the third film I cracked up, because it was all the things she’d asked for on the second film.”

Aliens finally went into production in September 1985, and would wrap in April 1986 on a budget of $18 million – half of what Fox had frightfully predicted. “If Jim Cameron hadn’t fallen in love with something about Alien,” stated Sigourney, “then a sequel wouldn’t have been made. No one really wanted to touch it … Luckily, Jim wanted to make his own movie.”

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Would you like to see Ripley again? Would you like to see Ripley in a movie taking place after the events of Aliens? Would you like to see Ripley in a direct Alien sequel directed by Scott? Would you like to see Ripley killed again?

10 Responses to Aliens – Can I Get Killed?

Blackwinter-witch

Jun-01-2017 6:01 PM

Ripley has had her time, and Life moves on. The franchise is in a state of change right now, trying to find it's new 'Ripley', as it were.

*Man's giant leap was just a stumble in the dark.*

Ati

Jun-01-2017 6:03 PM

Or there will be a pattern: every heroine will be killed. :)

Lone

Jun-02-2017 1:58 AM

Please, no more Ellen Ripley!

In fact, forget humans period. Show us Gods, Engineers, an army of Walters, plus David's creations and giant ganesha SJ's, all set in a surreal Giger-verse!

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

ali81

Jun-02-2017 2:09 AM

id love to see an alternate conclusion to hicks. id have the 3 survivors in another instalment have ripley one of the first to die. id have her go out in a meaningful way tho, something vital to the plot but give her an ending. she has had her time

Blackwinter-witch

Jun-02-2017 3:30 AM

I am starting to get a little tired of the 'essential heroine' pivot-point of this franchise.

To be a bit 'spoilery' here's an excerpt of dialogue from ALIEN: Manticore. It involves a female character yes, but there's also a male character as they are working together.
Considering the Menace involved, going it alone is suicidal, whether your Human or Chimeran.

Declan: 'So what's the plan?'

Selina: (Hefting a pair of gooseneck crowbars) 'I figure I'll try breaking every bone in it's body, see if that works.'

Declan: (Dubious and noncommital sounds before) 'And Plan B?'

Selina: 'If this doesn't work, at least I'll have it's attention and you can blast the motherf***er. A wrecked hyperdrive is easier to take than a dead crew.'

One thing I liked in ALIEN 3 was that it was a group effort, and even then it was a damned hard job to pull off.

*Man's giant leap was just a stumble in the dark.*

ali81

Jun-02-2017 4:19 AM

I agree blackie, I was so glad to see Tennessee survive. maybe david hasn't killed him off as he may see he and daniels as his adam and eve??

Bubba Zanetti

Jun-02-2017 6:05 AM

As much as I would like to see it, Alien3 is canon and undoing that film alone would be odd and really just for some of us fanboys/girls. I am not one of them as I just accepted all their fates.

However, some of the ideas Cameron had for his follow up to Aliens could be pretty well done but just do it with new characters. Also, the story of Ripley, Hicks and Newt can be tied into the storyline itself without having them physically present since, ya know, their dead. Flashback scenes on the Sulaco before hyper sleep, leaving recordings of their story. I don't know, not a screen writer as I have said before, but they could make some sort of appearance that isn't insane.

I know some on this forum think its cool, hip, whatever to bag on Blomkamp's Alien 5 idea. I'll say this, the guy is a nerd and has only directed a few movies. If we look at sequels, prequels and such the nerds have better track record when it comes to a story they love. Take Peter Jackson. Not every film he has made is great, but he did do justice to The Lord of the Rings. Why? He is passionate about the story and as a fan himself, he knows what fans want and the general audience.

People love the Alien series for its gothic horror and big ideas, but some also love the action Aliens and part of Alien 3 brought to the table. He has the skill set to do both and if not him, let someone else take the reigns.

Part of the strength of the Alien series is different directors have brought their own unique skill set to the table. As much as I hate Alien: Resurrection, I respect Jenuet for bringing HIS vision to the series. He is a good director and his visual style is unique just as Scott's, Cameron's and Fincher's.

Let someone else take the helm, but keep it in the canonical world that already exists.

Side note: It doesn't have to be Blomkamp per se as someone recommended del Toro in another thread. I agree, he could be another great choice. 

BZ

Bubba Zanetti

Jun-02-2017 6:09 AM

What I am trying to say is Scott should keep doing his prequels but allow and work with someone continuing the story after Alien 3/ Resurrection.

BZ

Benni_RoR

Jun-04-2017 7:13 AM

I love the slow paced horror of Alien, but I would also love to revisit the theme of marines struggling to survive in tight corridors and dark hallways.

Thoughts_Dreams

Jun-04-2017 8:20 AM

The character worked kind of well in Alien 1,2, and 3 but I wasn't very interested in Ripley in AR so they should leave her. Ripley had her time, but I think that the franchise is simply about humans that get into situations that they can't control, you don't need Ripley for that.

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