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Myrddin365

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The pictures of Shaw in David's lab chronicle how she got where she is. David didn't initiate it. He may have mercy killed her, and continued to experiment on the leftovers, but he did not cause her transformation.

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Anything else to back up your theory?

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the pictures are pretty strong evidence... As is Shaws state in covenant that actually correlates to those pictures.

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I'm with ColonialSoldier.  Sorry but you are going to have to do better than that.  The drawings do not show anything of the sort.  They just show her with one f**ked up mouth and jaw which doesn't mean anything.

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.  I watched Androids blow and finger each other's flutes.

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You didn't look at all of them. All the pics Daniels thumbed through were of Shaw.

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Myrddin365

I stepped out during this scene and missed it. Didn't realize there were multiple images of her. I'll watch for it next viewing.

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@Queen I didn't notice till my second viewing. Or it didn't click.

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Myrddin365, yes, there were more images, one of them showed her without hair and there was a tube in her mouth (Giger style)...

I thought these drawings revealed different clones - but who knows? If they show clones, the dissected body can be a clone as well. So it is possible that Shaw had escaped and lives. That would be a huge twist, beyond doubt.

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If cloning gets involved it's anybody's guess how things shape up. My interpretation is that those pictures are David recording what happened to Elizabeth.

But the cloning idea isn't without merit given a bald Shaw in the drawings.

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Also, one of the drawings depicts her missing her entire lower jaw, which is present in her dissected, plastinated body that we are shown.

Cloning is an interesting idea, and I wouldn't put it past David to be able to utilize Engineer technology to make clones of Shaw. It would be a marvelous plot twist in the next film, however I find it unlikely.

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Can you describe the pictures?

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DirtWolf, no jaw drawing:

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And there was a drawing showing a bald Shaw with a tube in her mouth, something similar to the combination of these two Giger pictures:

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i think the drawings just depict various stages of David experiments. Highly grotesque and certainly Giger Like. He needed Human DNA in order to produce the Alien, and in using Shaw he thinks he is putting her into a higher being, there for he is honoring her. 

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@Myrddin - fair enough I suppose, I have only seen the movie once.  Nevertheless, I remember seeing those other drawings now you guys have jogged my memory (the one with tube in her mouth, etc), but regardless of what f**ked up sketches were shown none of them convey "I wasn't killed by David"....so unless you elaborate I am not exactly sure where you are going with this, and I doubt I would feel any differently after a second viewing (and I won't be having a second viewing until the BD comes out at the very earliest so it's gonna be a while if you don't explain).

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.  I watched Androids blow and finger each other's flutes.

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The drawing you see first is Shaw's face enveloped in a fleshy cone like structure like a flower growing. The rest progress from there. It doesn't give the impression that he began the process.

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QueenElizabethShaw

I stepped out during this scene and missed it.

That is a big reason I wait for Blue rays.

 

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Hmmm.  OK thanks Myrddin.  Still not convinced but that's ok.

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.  I watched Androids blow and finger each other's flutes.

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There are also drawings all over the place of David's "creations", including an exact image of a facehugger which Lupe is (ironically) standing right next to when the real facehugger attacks him. David presumably draws to flesh out his ideas, so what he drew of Shaw are different ideas he had for what he was going to do to her. Obviously, her jaw is not missing on the corpse we saw, so it was likely just an idea he had.

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Cant believe you missed your period

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