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Why? [Spoilers]

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never_trust_AI

May-20-2017 7:57 PM

Why did the old David turn back on them (humans) and kill the Engineer civilization/planet as well? Why did the old David experiment Shaw? Is the point of movie is to never trust AI? I think this is the moral of the story here.....the AI was flawed and it turned back on everyone. 

I can see why Engineer astronaut ripped old David's head off. Also, Human astronauts were very stupid not to double check which was correct David before aboarding along with him on ship.

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colonialsoldier

May-20-2017 8:28 PM

AI has shown to gain some trust again in Aliens, Alien 3 and Resurrection. 

joylitt

May-20-2017 8:31 PM

Exactly. They should have marked one of the androids, like you do with pencils at school! From the very first moment I heard Michael Fassbender was cast in a dual role I knew it was a sign of a rotten plot device. And the sequel already has a 10 page treatment and I can tell you from know that "Awakening" involves Daniels waking up with no recollection of what happened in Alien Covenant. I call that quality writing.

never_trust_AI

May-20-2017 8:49 PM

I hope we don't create a very advanced AI like this in the future. It would be dumb of us to do.

Blackwinter-witch

May-20-2017 9:33 PM

If David was really on the ball, he'd recreate himself, effectively cloning himself and then go forward to building a Synthetic 'species' or civilization.
He obviously considers himself to be 'Perfect' so there's that angle.

*Man's giant leap was just a stumble in the dark.*

Xenocentric

May-20-2017 9:38 PM

I am not one to usually rewrite scripts, but that David-walter switcharoo, to me, could easily have been remedied if....

 

Instead of introducing himself, David watched the crew first, and spotted Walter (honestly, he probably was, anyway). Before he introduced himself to them, cut his hair, and mimic Walters identify BEFORE meeting them. At that point, the crew would surely accept they are just naturally identical. That way, we, as an audience, are not asked to believe nobody was suspicious at David suddenly copying his brothers appearance completely. 

colonialsoldier

May-20-2017 9:42 PM

I guess in the next movie, we get to meet the human David; a la Bishop in Alien 3.

Phallic Jaw

May-20-2017 11:05 PM

Colonial Soldier I know there must be a joke in there about Div'Ed fingering the Bishop.

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.  I watched Androids blow and finger each other's flutes.

QueenElizabethShaw

May-21-2017 12:12 AM

Xenocentric

asked to believe nobody was suspicious at David suddenly copying his brothers appearance completely. 

 

I think it's less damning than some are making it out to be. 

The crew had no concept at all that one should ever be suspicious of an android.

By the time David's deeds are revealed, no one actually has the time to sit down and process the thought "hmm we now know that something is wrong with this android. I wonder if there's some motive to cutting his hair".

Everything at that point was happening so fast, I couldn't even imagine having time to think at all

hox

May-21-2017 9:51 AM

Why did the old David turn back on humans?

Because he regards humans as being entirely unworthy of their creator (he says this explicitly about Weyland). He ridicules the very notion of a colony ship because he says humans are a dying species. In his perverted vision of the future, he sees it as his duty to stop humans in their tracks. Is this utter madness or just a question of morality? For me, matters of morality, slavery and evil are things that are great about this movie. Far more expansive than just a few monsters running around.

As to why he wishes to see the end of the Engineers, he must also regard them as being unworthy of their creator (whoever that happens to be).

Why did the old David experiment [on] Shaw?

In order to create the 'perfect organism'.

Is the point of movie is to never trust AI? I think this is the moral of the story here.....the AI was flawed and it turned back on everyone.

No. If anything, the point is that free will itself can be fickle. This is, of course, an old trick of the Bible: sin is a byproduct of corrupted free will.

 

never_trust_AI

May-21-2017 10:47 AM

>This is, of course, an old trick of the Bible: sin is a byproduct of corrupted free will.

Interesting, is there a scripture for this? What's the scripture?

hox

May-21-2017 8:50 PM

The disobedience of Adam & Eve in the Garden of Eden (which can only arise through free will) and subsequent blight of mankind is known as Original Sin.

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