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Where did the Alien Eggs come from?

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elephant09

May-18-2017 2:55 PM

Am i right in saying that, David engineered the 'black-goo' which therefore made it airborne? So he didnt actually engineer the Egg or the actual Xenomorph - but he engineered it so that it could reproduce easier and evolve? Thats what i got from it...

But the big question i have is:

WHATS LAYING THOSE EGGS?

Hellooooo...

I pretty much made sense of everything, but what i cant get my head around is where the eggs came from?

I then remembered seeing a scene with Shaw having her chest burst open from the front - so im thinking that David must have engineered the 'black-goo' of which he tested on anything with life... Thats why all the animals on the planet are dead, they all spawned the white Neo-morphs - because at that level (airborne) they can only create the neo-verison.

Now... I was thinking that David was not happy with the neo-morphs and realised he could create a perfect specimen - but only using a human. He sacrifices Shaw and she gives birth to an Alien neo-Queen that lays the eggs. Obviously the neo-Queen is not in this film, but if they had included an egg laying scene - that would have just been beautiful and i would have made perfect sense of it all.

Anyone else think like this?

Aghhhhh Ive been a fan since i was 5 years old (1989) and ive waited almost my whole life for Ridley to direct another Alien - I must say, i really loved it - but it left me with so many more questions!

Cant wait for Alien Awakening! Lets Rockkkk!!! :D


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BigDave

May-18-2017 6:21 PM

Well it appears Shaw has not become no Queen, we dont know if she produces a Organism thats a Queen, or what ever.. i am thinking Ridley Scott may be going for a different route than Cameron's Queen or Similar.

I would assume that he had used her Reproductive Organs and at some point had harnessed her Eggs to be experimented on.

Prometheus we see Shaw gave birth to a Trilobite Face Hugger, the way this happened had to be via one of these.

1) Holloways Sperm is mutated and this infected one of Shaws Eggs....  which means what happens if the Black Goo Directly effects a Egg?

2) Holloway ended up with Nano-Worms (if the Goo contained these) and one of these then infected the Egg...  This however would maybe mean that Black Goo + Egg = Trilobite again

Unless the amount passed via Holloway was small, and we have to wonder what does Shaws Eggs added to a large amount of Black Goo Produce.

Looking at the Chest Cavity maybe she Birthed a Chest Buster or a Proto Face Hugger (Trilobite) its open for debate.

The Final Thing to consider is does a Infected Black Goo Egg, thats inside a Womb, evolve differently to one that Mutated while the Eggs are removed from the Womb?

 

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

splatterpunk

May-18-2017 7:11 PM

I think the spores were mutations from the black goo. He said it in the movie what it didn't kill it mutated. Hence no life or mutated things that died off.

 

The facehugger eggs were davids experiments. At least that's what I got out of it. Remember he had all sorts of drawings of insects and other weird things in his workshop. Could of been from Shaw apparently David did some nasty things to her.

Tom

May-19-2017 5:26 AM

Yeah i got that David created the eggs from scratch, via DNA manipulation over time to finally form his "embryos" which probably when left to grow, grow into the big eggs. 

Not sure still about the spores, I almost feel like they might be native to that planet, and maybe the spores themselves are harvested to create the black goo. Not sure. David even said at one point that the black goo doesn't affect plants, only animals, "the meat, if you will" (which was one of his awesome lives from the movie) 

Tiwaz

May-19-2017 8:10 AM

Just thinking into the blue.... Could the eggs be a bigger/enhanced version of the spore pods? Since they got "roots" at their base.

Had this thought since I saw the pods in the trailers.

Eine Theorie die nicht auf Etwas solidem basiert ist für gewöhnlich nur Geschwätz.

brego

Mar-22-2018 12:43 AM

Seemingly Ridley imagined that David harvested Shaw's human eggs and using the black goo somehow was able to evolve them into the first Xenomorph eggs. Another disappointing aspect of Covenant.

ali81

Mar-22-2018 12:52 AM

yea that's theory I got. David takes Shaws eggs and using the goo, mutates them into the eggs we see containing the face hugger. he may have used engineer dna in the mix which would explain the size of the eggs? and I agree about this being disappointing as id much rather have it that David has nothing at all to do with the creation of the xeno

dk

Mar-22-2018 1:14 AM

Tiwaz I sort of wondered the same thing. The spores definitely are related to the face hugger since they invade the host and produce a creature.

dk

Mar-22-2018 1:14 AM

triple tap sorry

ali81

Mar-22-2018 2:20 AM

I also don't see there being a neo-queen. I just see the goo mutate some form of fungi which may have been something unforeseen when the mutagen was designed as it is neither flora nor fauna

BigDave

Mar-22-2018 3:23 AM

Forgot to get back to this Topic... so thanks for the Bump...

Indeed the Eggs appear to grow with roots from the ground... i made some comments on this in my old Egg/Cabbage Patch Topic.

The way i look at how things went down, and i should have replied to this after i posted the reply i did, but i had some problems i had to deal with so went away for a number of months.

so to continue....

The Engineers had been experimenting with the Black Goo and for some reason (Sacrificed related Xenomorph Organism) this Goo carried on Xenomorph Traits to the hosts it infects, depending on how contact with the Pathogen is made.

The other Temples maybe Produced a slightly different strain of Xeno-Virus if you would than that in Prometheus in the Deacon Temple Complex... or even if its all the same...  The stuff still passes on traits related to the Xenomorph/Deacon.

A effect of the Bombardment (or Spilled Cargo after the Crash) by David leads to infection of various forms of wild-life....  one of these appears to be a infection of some kind of Fungi, that is Organic and not Plant Life...  These Evolved to the Spores.

David had seen the results of the Spores, and he had began experimenting with the Spores/Neomorphs and other infected Life and even using the Black Goo to Create Hybrids and various experiments on Spores/Neomorphs and other Black Goo experiments, Cross Hybridizing them...

Using Engineer Females, likely to infect the Hybrid Forms with Female Engineer Fetus or Egg Cells....   But it was only ONCE he had used Dr Shaws Reproductive Organs (Egg Cells) did he manage to achieve the results that grew into those Eggs.

It appears his Creation is still a WORK IN PROGRESS

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

Mar-22-2018 3:29 AM

If we looked at HOW i saw the Black Goo after Prometheus, which months latter the leak of Jon Spaights Nano Scarabs... basically fitted exactly how i interpreted the Goo.

We can see the Goo... is actually a Biological Creation/Hybridization Evolutionary Accelerant...

Want a Werewolf?   Sacrifice Wolf to Sacrificial Goo, Collect the resulting broken down material/matter and then infect a Human with this and we got Werewolves... Want a Thundercat?  Sacrifice a Cat instead...   Want a Lizardmen... then yep... use the Sacrificial Goo on a Lizard.

Want a Human, Lizard and Cat Hybrid?  thats more Human?  then Sacrifice a Lizard and use the resulting substance on a Human/Cat Hybrid... EDIT sorry this method would give in theory... a Organism thats 50% Lizard, 25% Cat and 25% Human...   However who is to say the Goo only takes best traits so if the Lizard has less favorable Traits than a Human, then the Lizard DNA could be less than 50% and Human more than 25%... this really is a grey area.

This kind of tinkering is what David was doing.... take a Neomorph,  use the Goo to break this down and infect a Human Trilobite ( Black Goo, or infected Sperm plus Human Egg Cell) and what we have then is a Hybrid Neomorph/Deacon DNA Organism.

David must have used the Goo to basically mix and match traits of many Organisms in the Quest to take the Traits he wants and pass them onto his Creation.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

ignorantGuy

Mar-22-2018 6:36 AM

BigDave

The Alien in Annihilation was better in ADM mixing however...

BigDave

Mar-23-2018 9:11 AM

Not heard about that Movie, until i just checked, is it the one with Natalie Portman?

seems interesting i will have to watch it some time, not sure its released in UK yet though.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Thoughts_Dreams

Mar-28-2018 8:20 AM

"Seemingly Ridley imagined that David harvested Shaw's human eggs and using the black goo somehow was able to evolve them into the first Xenomorph eggs. Another disappointing aspect of Covenant."

Boring, I hope that does not happen to be the case so that becomes the official version. It seems that Scott only makes the alienverse worse when he is trying to interfere with the story. Leave that up to someone else that is not fixated with the androids.

David this David that, F it

There are many different ways that I can imagine that would be a lot better than the David thing.

"… as id much rather have it that David has nothing at all to do with the creation of the xeno"

I totally agree

Movie fan

Apr-27-2018 5:38 AM

On another topic someone pointed out that Shaw's body had been cut open: the front part of the rib-cage had been cut off and her lungs, heart, stomach, liver, etc had been removed.

I have noticed that the crest on Shaw's head could be made from her hip, rib, and arm or leg bones along with some of her organs like her heart, lung, etc.

I think David removed all of Shaw's bodily organs and a few bones to make room for an EGG to grow, because an egg would definitely fit in the empty crevice in her body.

Meaning Shaw grows an egg and David removes the egg and stores it in a cave for safe keeping. (Note: the crest on Shaw's head looks like it is supposed to keep Shaw alive.)

Obsession is a Power, not a Curse ;)

Movie fan

Apr-27-2018 5:41 AM

Something I forgot to add: the egg probably continues to grow after it's removed from Shaw, hence why it seems bigger than the crevice in Shaw's body.

Obsession is a Power, not a Curse ;)

BigDave

Apr-27-2018 7:04 AM

We do see David has some Smaller Eggs, i can only assume once he has these Small Eggs he then plants them in the Egg Catacombs and they Grow.

I would assume David uses/mixes the Neomorph DNA with Various other Organisms both infected/not infected and Cross-Breeds/Mixes Various Traits until he obtains a Perfect DNA Strand and using the Black Goo he is able to Imprint this DNA into a Engineer Egg Cells but he was not pleased with the Outcome..

So he used Dr Shaw's Reproductive System to improve the Organism, and Once he had obtained a Satisfactory number of Xenomorph Eggs.. he must have then gone onto Infecting Engineers with them. And again he may have been displeased with the Results.

So I suspect as he does not Need Dr Shaw's Egg cells no longer, he decides to infect Dr Shaw with one of the Face Huggers and then he Extracted the Xenomorph or it Chest Busted.  Hence Dr Shaws open Chest Cavity.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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