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Rule book Round 2

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ninXeno426

Apr-08-2017 11:54 PM

Last week dk created the Scified fan made rule book.These are Rules in no particular order:

 

to have characters written and developed well with no wishy washy whimsical religious zealots.

Do not put too much emphasis on technology like holograms and such.

No romance whatsoever in any alien movie.

No stupid characters such as fifield and milburn (posted X 2)

No time travel (mentioned X 4)

Put Chris and BigDave on the pay roll as consultants/writers with possible cameos. (Dave chose a mutated Jabba)

No more than 3 rewrites of the script. Pick an idea, flesh it out, and make the best version of that idea possible rather than trying to incorporate old versions into some new vision by some new writer. (mentioned X 2)

there is no place for corny over the top cheesy/corny dialog and sequences in this film universe (aka anything similar to Resurrection would be banned)

No predators in the alien film universe, they are both cool but tonally too different to share a film and it be worthy of either,,save that stuff for the comic books (mentioned X 2)

not everything has to be explained ,keep some mystery in this universe so we have something our minds can run wild with (mentioned X 2)

NEVER turn it into an Avengers where our protaginists are just taking our hordes after hordes, it would be silly....even though Aliens went with the action/war vibe it still kept some of the bleak tone and impending doom and terror

Ripley is done, done done never again shoehorn her into a sequel or prequel 

Keep the main focus on morphing and mutating as the genesis of the species but still allow an occasional queen ...there is just more ghastly horror to play with when it comes to mutation, but the queen IMO is limited, she looks good our hero fights her thats it, having her on the screen dosnt really open up any storytelling doors for us other than a cool action scene

Im fine with tech but make it look used or serviceable, if its too "bright and shiny" it takes away the tone and feel of the movie

I do not ever want to see Weyland Yutani weaponize the xenomorph.If you want to know why,just play Colonial Marines.Enough said 

R rating only (mentioned X 2)

No main character kids

Defined chest-burster gestation period(s). To paraphrase, consistent time lines yet allow some wiggle room for hosts with mentioned physical conditions that may explain gestation time variations.

Xenos not used as cannon-fodder that run around in open spaces, or broad daylight; Ambush/stalking predator only.

No quotes from Ripley as a fanboy nod to her like 'that's not exactly out of the manual' or 'get away from her, you bitch'.

Stay true to H.R Giger and his nightmareish world and design.

No comedy. (Dark humor is OK here and there but not to the extent of Resurrection)

Never, ever again a newborn or anything that resembles that abomination. (I am fine with neomorphs though..) (mentioned X 2)

No "up in the blue, infantile dopehead" ideas in scripts or drafts like wooden planets ur sutch. Alien worlds yes, but please not stupid.

No fan boy service other then set pieces and or details about the alien universe that serves to expand the world

Never 100% CGI, always a mix of practical effects

Dont rely on Ripley storyline

Don’t have more than 2 years between movies.

I just hope they have it all planned out A-Z even if we dont see every part of A-Z as long as they know what a A-Z would be and stick to things that wont contradict it, and so also to tidy up the mess that has been left before.

Projectile weapons preferred, yet allow for Laser-based weapons as they are making steady progress with them in the real world

NO stupid-looking weapons like the blue and orange (present-day Target-match pistols) weapons seen in PROMETHEUS. They looked like kid's toys.

NO MORE FLAMETHROWERS!! At least not pre-assembled ones in the armory/ready-for-use ones like we saw in PROMETHEUS. It is the absolute height of mindless and suicidal stupidity to fire one aboard a starship, they're cliche`, have no real practical use aside from menacing an Alien, and the last thing you want is an alien running amok, on fire, acid bleeding from multiple and increasing places where it's skin has burned through/sloughed off, and setting even more of the ship on fire and burning holes in the ship all along its path.

Do NOT even TRY to 'Star Trek It Up'...this is the ALIENverse, it has its own distinct feel, flavor and mien. There is NO Central Monolithic Unchallengeable Federation of Planets as The Prime Authority...and there NEVER will be. There are NO Government starships out 'patrolling the sector', and when you're between star systems, you're on your own.

Characters should act and inter-relate like people do in reality, not by way of artificial/idealized 'Niceness'. Watch ALIEN for some great scenes between Ripley and Parker and their friction-points in personality

People drink beer, some likely carry whisky/liquor flasks, they smoke, and have pin-ups all over the place. These are people, not Idealized Human Federation Citizens.                                                                                                           The idea behind the new thread is to 1:To seek possible new contributors.2:For new members to contribute new rules.3:Any new rules suggested Will be debated and okayed by current members.This thread is open to all and open for discussion.                                                                                                                                     

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

96 Responses to Rule book Round 2

ninXeno426

Apr-09-2017 12:02 AM

Foolish me I almost to contribute the previous contributors.I would first like to thank contributors alphabetically:Apex_PredatorBigDave,,Blackwinter-witch , chadsbrothermattDkGrinning & Dropping LinenIRaptus,LV226ninXeno426, andParkerparrot

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

Apr-09-2017 12:03 AM

Plus additional rules suggested by Neomorph,Lone,and BlackWinter Witch 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

Apr-09-2017 12:05 AM

There are also a couple members I am considering PM'ing for possible input 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

Nycro

Apr-09-2017 12:20 AM

Wait, wait , wait, no romance?  What about facehugger love?

S.M

Apr-09-2017 12:23 AM

How about...

- Never let fans make movies. Best leave it to filmmakers.

ninXeno426

Apr-09-2017 12:26 AM

LOL!Think what they meant was Twilight level sap.But it can be debated.I personally feel if it's done right and kept subtle(think Ripley and Hicks)then maybe 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

Apr-09-2017 12:28 AM

Dull suggestion S.M.,not like we're making movies any way.Perhaps more like potential guidelines for fans who want to take a shot at writing or something like that 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

Apr-09-2017 12:29 AM

DOUBLE POST

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

S.M

Apr-09-2017 12:31 AM

So why does it constantly talk about films and movies?

ninXeno426

Apr-09-2017 12:32 AM

I don't know,I didn't create all the rules 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

S.M

Apr-09-2017 12:33 AM

Is it meant to be a joke or just a bunch of arbitrary restrictions?

Blackwinter-witch

Apr-09-2017 12:33 AM

I'm unsure what, if anything I can contribute, but I will be keeping an eye on this topic, and if I have a thought, I'll toss it into the pool. :)

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ninXeno426

Apr-09-2017 12:37 AM

Things fans like and dislike about the series.I don't necessarily agree with all of them personally,that's why they're up for debate

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

Blackwinter-witch

Apr-09-2017 12:39 AM

S.M

It's basically a...just-for-fun list of thoughts from us fans about how we think people Like Ourselves should write for the Alienverse. NONE are binding, of course, but they DO illustrate the areas where the ALIENverse franchise suffered deterioration.

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S.M

Apr-09-2017 12:39 AM

"Things fans like and dislike about the series.I don't necessarily agree with all of them personally,that's why they're up for debate "

Oh.  They are?

In that case, ditch every single one of them. Anything could work given the right context.

"NONE are binding, of course, but they DO illustrate the areas where the ALIENverse franchise suffered deterioration."

In the opinions of a few people.

ninXeno426

Apr-09-2017 12:50 AM

No.Can't say I want all that.Especially things like 100 percent CG.Ripley has also ran her course.Referential quotes are cheesy and over done.And frankly we don't need any more kids 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

Apr-09-2017 12:52 AM

And really absolutely no body wants to see time travel 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

S.M

Apr-09-2017 12:58 AM

The Prometheus wasn't a model - it was computer generated.  Ditto the Juggernaut.  Ditto most of LV-223 including the Engineer temples.  What was the problem with any of that stuff?

Any more kids?  We've had all of one.  Two if you count AvP:R.  Which apparently you can't because of the 'no Predators' rule.

As for time travel - depends on the context. I can't think of a context where it wouldn't be a cheap cop-out - but someone else might be able to.

Blackwinter-witch

Apr-09-2017 1:03 AM

S.M

If you dislike this Topic so much and so obviously, then why did you feel the need to join in on the conversation?

 

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S.M

Apr-09-2017 1:15 AM

I was trying to understand the point of the 'rules', and have been told they're guidelines, a bit of fun, and open for debate.

Are they any of these things?

ninXeno426

Apr-09-2017 1:17 AM

I don't know why I even bother.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

S.M

Apr-09-2017 1:19 AM

So they're not open for debate anymore?

ninXeno426

Apr-09-2017 1:21 AM

Still no one wants any thing Star Trekish in Alien.Even you can't argue with that one 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

Apr-09-2017 1:22 AM

Yes they are 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

S.M

Apr-09-2017 1:26 AM

They already Trekked it up a bit in Resurrection with the USM. Then they did it a bit more in the Rage War books and they turned out fine.

I agree that it should be based more on commerce than a noble utopian exploration for explorations sake.

Blackwinter-witch

Apr-09-2017 1:26 AM

S.M

'Open to debate' does not mean 'Employ Attack Strategy' and be a buzz/fun-kill.
The point of them was to have some fun regarding a shared view of what has been negatively affecting the franchise since ALIENS and post-ALIENS.
Your style of 'debate' comes off like Attacking us for having the 'audacity' to even create this list for any reason.
If you wanna debate them, fine, but stop coming off sounding like you're some kind of Judge, you're not and this list is just a shared opinion-based perspective, a 'gripe-list' that some of us happen to agree with and have contributed to in the name of 'fun'...keep that in mind, and that you're attacking us for our opinions being different from yours.

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ninXeno426

Apr-09-2017 1:30 AM

Indeed.More than a few people agreed on some of these rules.Also no one wants over the top Avengers action.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

S.M

Apr-09-2017 1:34 AM

I've attacked the 'rules'; not attacked anyone personally.

I just find it strange for a site that indulges in endless speculation and 'free thinking', has such a narrow view of how things should be done.

"Indeed.More than a few people agreed on some of these rules.Also no one wants over the top Avengers action."

So what, four people agree on something and it's "no one wants it"?

ninXeno426

Apr-09-2017 1:36 AM

Not narrow,although I've been attacked plenty for speculation that's for damn sure

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

Blackwinter-witch

Apr-09-2017 1:52 AM

 S.M

It's nothing but a 'gripe-list', made up by us for fun, because some of us have a shared opinion, that's all it is. Yeah fine, it's called a 'rules' list, but what else were we supposed to call it?

Dude, seriously, you are reading WAY more into it than there is.

Most of us, as example are pretty burned out on kids as main characters due to other franchises. Also, the ALIENverse is more about Adults and is aimed at Adults. Kids really have no place in ALIENverse stories except occasionally and rarely, most likely as survivors, or in flashbacks.

But keep in mind, there's no point in attacking the rules either...it's a gripe-list, if you disagree with whatever point, then state why, that's how you start a conversation properly. Attacking, just provokes an equally hostile response.

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