Relevance of these shots?

BigDave
MemberDeaconApril 04, 201711487 Views42 RepliesDuring the New Trailer we here the "Country Roads, take me Home" song.
This shot we see to the right a Record Player that appears to be playing this tune, and then the next shot is the Lake and what appears to be something beneath the Water as the Sound goes Muffled.
We see the shot through the Window overlooks the Landscape of Paradise, and the Question is then...
Is this actually the Drop Ship?
Or indeed was their another Ship Prior to the Covenant, this would certainly answer how David has different clothes from what he had at the end of Prometheus and also maybe where he obtained the Paper and Writing Material as well as Lighting for his Work-shop.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Really interesting theory here, I personally love the idea of Covenant not being the first drop ship to land on Paradise.
What's the story, MUTHUR?
Indeed i think its a very important and overlooked clue, much like the other thread i did regarding the Baby Humanoid Skulls in Davids Work Shop.
The window in this image above does not come from the Covenant Drop Ship or the Life Boat from Prometheus.
And it does not appear to part of the other Drop Ship at the end of the 2nd Trailer that has the purpose of taking down all the Terra-forming equipment and Modules.
So where is this ship, how did it get there and when and what purpose does it have?
Did Humans reach that System prior to the Covenant and David/Shaw or after David/Shaw but prior to the Covenant?
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Indeed i think its a very important and overlooked clue, much like the other thread i did regarding the Baby Humanoid Skulls in Davids Work Shop.
The window in this image above does not come from the Covenant Drop Ship or the Life Boat from Prometheus.
And it does not appear to part of the other Drop Ship at the end of the 2nd Trailer that has the purpose of taking down all the Terra-forming equipment and Modules.
So where is this ship, how did it get there and when and what purpose does it have?
Did Humans reach that System prior to the Covenant and David/Shaw or after David/Shaw but prior to the Covenant?
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Maybe Weyland/David had all along secretly known of Paradise, and that that was going to be their ultimate destination, so that supply preparations were underway well before the events of Prometheus, and David 8, in his own manipulative way, steered the party to end up going from LV-223 to "Paradise" by "whatever means necessary".
Indeed does look like the ISS ;)
I cant rule out of its part of the Covenant Main ship or a Module that is used as a living compartment as it appears the Covenant will have many such Modules that get connected together.
But i think its strange how they show this compartment that has notes and so paper and pens in it and the Record Player, that appears to be accompanied by the same "Take me Home" Song that Shaw is humming/singing to when at the controls of the Juggernaut.
I do think we need to be careful however and remember the Trailers can have sounds added to them at certain points where in the movie these sounds are not there. A good Example is the very end of the 10 Cloverfield Lane Trailer when the Ship appears behind the House... the Scream did not happen at this point in the movie.
So indeed Shaw will most likely Hum/Sing to that Tune but it does not have to be exactly at that point in the trailer.... likewise maybe that Module does not play that Track on the Record Player too.
But i think its more than coincidence how there is this Record Player and why Shaw would just pick that song at random.
And so again its a Big Mystery as to where this Shot comes into play.. surely its not a added Shot that will not be in the movie at all... If so then surely it has to be a Shot from a Event Prior to Alien Covenant or After.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
David 8's distress signal to the humans that diverted the Covenant to Paradise
"Or indeed was their another Ship Prior to the Covenant, this would certainly answer how David has different clothes from what he had at the end of Prometheus and also maybe where he obtained the Paper and Writing Material as well as Lighting for his Work-shop."
I think you are correct in the significance of the room with the record player.
I believe this is recovered human technology that David 8 used to send the signal that diverted the Covenant ship to Paradise. He most likely included the John Denver song in his message to the humans.
Shaw in the hologram was humming the same song playing on the record player...a song more than a century old at her point.
I don't think this window room is on the Covenant mother ship nor the drop ship shown for the initial touch down on Paradise.
We may be looking at the signal beacon set up by David 8 to lure the humans to Paradise in the room with the red record.
well here is my take on it but I hope it is another drop ship we don't know about ( makes the story that much better )
that window scene is part of the building that shows the scene of david and weyland ( it kinda has the same background tone ) . Maybe it was Davids room and that was music he played and took notes while looking out that window. Fast forward to David and Shaw on Paradise. David starts to sing that song ( remembering when he was Home ) Shaw catches the tune starts to sing it as well. The hologram scene, Shaw maybe singing that in her attempt to go back to earth but something happens that causes the juggernaut to crash.
Dave, I agree with you, these shots are important, and I think you are right regarding the location, this is the planet the Covenant visits in the movie.
Moreover, this building/shelter/dropship is in the wheat field! Look at the lower part of the window, it is easy to see that some wheatears are moving outside the window.
It means that it cannot be the exploding dropship since that dropship is close to the water and there are no plants around it. Plus this shot shows grass here not wheat:
Added to this, I think this room is part of a lifepod/lifeboat. If there is a movie before Alien - Covenant, anything could happen.
The window shot has an extra detail: if you look at the image on the right carefully, you can discover a change in light/shadow close to the entrance/door of another room(?) - somebody is leaving or coming.
(Something is coming... ha-ha, it's for Chris...)
Perhaps David upgraded the 'flute ignition' on the Juggernaut to keyless-John-Denver ignition ;)
I think you're spot on BigDave. The room, record player, choice of song all have significance I'm thinking. Also, the fact that the hashtag EMOHEMEKAT is used suggests the song is more than random. In another thread I mentioned I recorded the audio from the take me home clip and played it backwards. It does sound a lot like a female mutters something and the says 'please'. I had wondered if they've put audio of Shaw pleading in the clip, which you can hear if played backwards. Surely Take me home backwards as the hashtag has some significance? Who knows though.
In one of the trailers You can hear Daniels saying "what happend here". Could i be that the Covenant crew finds a deserted human spaceship(with the Window) and that's where that audio is from?
"Bees have hives, man"
Hey all I'm a long time lurker and thought I'd join in at last... after seeing this thread it reminded me about a discussion a while back here about a pic of Ridley with what looked like an engineer and a random space suited person next to an SJ chair on a Juggernaut. That pic was blurred and out of focus but it defo 'looks like' an engineer and a suited figure sitting down.
I wonder if that view of Paradise from the ship with the record playing could belong to the mysterious suited figure in the Ridley Juggernaut pic? Just a potential thought. Or maybe the ship is not a ship on Paradise but a dwelling of some kind on earth that belongs to a key Covenant crew member/Shaw or some connection to them?
Except that backmasking and subliminal messages have been disproven if a subliminal message is implied.
@ Shasta cyclone... lol I think your right about the cameraman. I'm seeing things for sure.
I do remember reading somewhere, maybe from a set report about Daniels' apartment featuring in the film. Could the place where the record is playing be it I wonder. On the trailer at the 10/11 second mark it cuts to a wide frame of the lake. There seems to be a small structure of some kind close to the water. I can't make it out clearly but maybe a peer or jetty for a boat I'd guess. If there was a paradise style landscape shown from a scene on earth I'm not sure why they'd do that. Thematic contrast or something.
@Shasta cyclone
Indeed it could be a Flash Back, but i do think the background through the Window is relevant to the next shot which is the Top Image in this selection of images.
The view from the Window would be in the direction of the Arrows Aproximately
However.... The Top and Bottom Shot seem to be similar areas as Highlighted A but the middle two shots seem different and they are Highlighted B
Then again as far as the Movie goes they could use the same location or abouts for a intended TWO different locations.
A few things come to mind with the shots in the OT
1) This Shot appears to not be the Drop Ship, because the Drop Ship lacks those Windows and the 2nd shot of something submerged under the Waters, is in no way the remains of the Blown up Drop Ship.
2) Surely the Take me Home Song is not placed at the same time as these shots for a Red Herring or Coincidence.
3) It appears Shaw is humming that same Tune and while this sound may not be exactly hummed at this point in the movie, we can assume Shaw has sang/hummed it at some point and so its more than coincidence that the record player was playing the same song.
So for me the only explanation would be that there was some kind of Module/Ship on Paradise Prior to the Covenant, as it cant be after due to the lack of wreckage.
The only way it could be after would be if Shaw is humming that sound after the events of Alien Covenant, but we maybe can assume this sound is heard by the Covenant Crew when they enter the Juggernaught and potentially maybe its a Sound/Tune they detected on the Signal they picked up that leads them to head to Paradise.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017