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Alien Covenant: Poster ==> Trilobite?

Alien Covenant: Poster ==> Trilobite?

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BigDave

Mar-24-2017 4:56 PM

Does the New Poster show in the back ground and at the Top the Trilobite?

We all know Ridley and Lindeloff had teased the Trilobite/Deacon where the Progenitor to the Xenomorph, some of us may have felt how can this be due to Time-Line, but then fail to take into context The Mural in Prometheus showed us a Deacon and this Mural existed long before the Prometheus Mission.

Cast your eyes at the similarities here. Lettered A-F you may have to Zoom in on the Images.

I think the Vague Background Object/Organism has a lot of traits of the Trilobite and indeed could it be a related Organism?

The Trilobite came from One of 3 Ways in Prometheus.

1) A infected Holloway implanted his Hybrid Infected Sperm into Shaws Womb and Fertilized/Infected one of her Eggs.

2) The Black Goo contained a Parasitic Worm (Eye Worm) and this was transmitted to Shaw via Sex like a Sexually Transmitted Disease and Fertilized/Infected one of her Eggs.

3) As above but either 1 or 2 does not infect any Eggs but the Womb thinks its a Embryo/Egg and so incubates it as if it was a Egg/Embryo

In the above scenarios we can see there is some potential for David to Re-create the Trilobite

And indeed going back Thousands of Years ago, with us seeing Male and Female Beings on Paradise the Potential for this kind of Thing to happen in the Past is very Likely.

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

22 Responses to Alien Covenant: Poster ==> Trilobite?

dk

Mar-24-2017 5:09 PM

I can see similarity in D but the others may take longer to look at.

BigDave

Mar-24-2017 5:11 PM

You have to look around those areas more, and they appear to have some things similar... certainly does not look like a Queen which a Majority of people now think it means as the Queen looks totally different

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

cuponator3000

Mar-24-2017 5:30 PM

That's what I was thinking when I first saw the poster, Dave! There is even an Engineer or two with Trilobite looking tentacles around their necks. 

Not a map, an invitation

Drake

Mar-24-2017 6:56 PM

I think your analysis is spot on. The life cycle has some gaps but for what it's worth I see option 1 as most likely.

Ingeniero

Mar-24-2017 7:30 PM

Bodacious catch on the Trilobite above BigDave.

I took your diagram points above of A,B,C,D,E,F and cut away the actual image overlay with an inverse underneath to highlight what you have in your analysis above. Again, great catch.

 

BigDave

Mar-24-2017 7:35 PM

I think regardless of what this Poster Shows or intended to or not intends to.

The Trilobite/Deacon was related to the Xenomorph in some way, and the fact we have the Mural in Prometheus means that indeed its likely this was a Organism known to them prior to Prometheus  (Unless they are going to pull a Time-Travel David is the Big Head in Prometheus Twist).

The Prometheus Mural was very vague but we could see there was Face Hugged Engineers with TWO kinds of Face Huggers and we see TWO kinds in this Poster too.

The Prometheus Mural looked like a Deacon and so we can assume maybe it came from a Face Hugger that was more like the Trilobite.

There is every chance similar things had happened in the past (Trilobite/Deacon) or very similar.

A lot depends on what the intentions are for this Poster, is it relevant to the Plot, be that what we see in the movie or what clues are left as to something that happened prior in the past?

Or is it just a vague piece of Art that has no relevance apart from to show Engineers and Xenos.  If its more than this and if its meant to fit in with the whole Plot of how things came to be, or would come to be... then thats interesting.

A lot depends on if it is as such, and then when was this event to had happened?

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

Mar-24-2017 7:40 PM

I do think however we also need to ask WHAT Basis does David have to start his Experiments?

The recent Press screening of extended footage has had a few interpretations... One Reporter claimed David showed Crudup (Oram) his Workshop and referenced them as he was experimenting on the Xenomorphs (this seems odd as the Organism had no Name until Aliens).

The other reporter described the same scene but David said he was experimenting with the Life Forms encounter in Prometheus.

Which as far as i could tell David only had Witnessed really the Hammerpedes and Trilobite.

So with him and Shaw the most easy way to have a basis would be to attempt to re-create the Experiment.

Which if it was option 1)  in my Original Topic, this would prove difficult if he has no Males to Mate with Shaw etc.

But that does not mean he could not fall onto trying Option 2 and what if the stuff in those Urns infects a Egg.

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

I Raptus

Mar-24-2017 8:00 PM

Nice! I like it. The mural looks to show the downfall of the engineers to the rising threat of the Xenos, makes sense a Trilobite would be depicted in there too.

BigDave

Mar-24-2017 8:08 PM

I may be a bit off as far as placement and could only get the Toy and so the actual Trilobite would be more seamless and different color too.

But i hope you can try and see what i mean and forgive my pour Editing Skills i am using a basic program lol and i am not so great anyway.

Notice A the shape is similar to these too.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

Mar-24-2017 8:09 PM

Not saying it could be THE Trilobite but it could be a similar Organism.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Batchpool

Mar-24-2017 8:17 PM

There is a compositional psychology test that can be done with the image and it works like this. Close your eyes for a minute and then be aware of where your attention is first drawn when looking at the image. The result should be that your eyes are attracted firstly to the point of greatest contrast. When i tried this, it just happened to be area F in what could be the trilobite. What follows is where the eyes are attracted to next and repeating the exercise. Try this and see if like myself you find your eyes drawn to what could be the trilobite first. I think the composition backs up Big Daves point.

Batchpool

Mar-24-2017 8:25 PM

@Big Dave

Hope you try doing this test. I would like to know where your eyes go to next after looking at area F. I would like you to go first. then I will tell you where my eyes where drawn to next. This could be interesting.

Ingeniero

Mar-24-2017 8:43 PM

The alien at the top right of this image looks like it has different teeth than the xenomorph.

BigDave

Mar-25-2017 3:51 AM

@Batchpool

Did the test a few times about 5 lol

3 of them the first thing was the Top of the Image, as you spotted...

The other time one was the Xenomorph in Center and other the like the Hammerpede thing.

 

However every single time the second thing that came to attention was always the Engineer with the Tentacles around his neck ;)

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

Mar-25-2017 3:57 AM

Indeed the Teeth are different they are like the Queens but also this could be just a abstract piece of work where it shows these creatures in stages of Mutation, Transformation or Distortion.

And so over all it appears the Poster is showing the Mutation and Transformation of these Beings much like how various Artwork depicts the Fallen Angels being Transformed into Hideous Monsters and often also Serpents as they are no Longer Angels... but are now Demons.

If as Michelle mentioned this Poster is part of a Mural we will actually see in the Movie, then its either a Celebration of this Event... but why Celebrate the Fall of their kind?

Or a Warning.... or maybe a Celebration of the Non-Fallen Engineers about their Fallen and Rebellious kind who got Punished.

If however it is how Michelle interpreted it as.. as a Celebration of this Event..It would fit in with what the Source said, when they mentioned in Context to Paradise Lost (in connection to Prometheus 2) the Punishment to the Fallen Angels where they was turned into Serpents was seen as Freedom from Bondage..

Which indeed would be something to celebrate.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Batchpool

Mar-25-2017 5:14 AM

@ Big Dave, Thanks for trying the test. I also kept getting the Engineer with the tentacles around his neck. After that, things would appear to be random. I was hoping the artist may have been trying to give us some more in the way of clues.They certainly want to draw the eye to the Trilobite and Engineer.

:)

Ingeniero

Mar-25-2017 9:35 AM

Batchpool, some of the random items in the poster look like the architecture in the room (see lower left) that housed the urns.

This may be an urn at the top center of the below photo.

QueenElizabethShaw

Mar-25-2017 2:37 PM

I commented about this when I initially saw this part of the poster. My first thought was a Queen's crest. Then on closer inspection I noticed different ways you could see a trilobite. One within the crest, and one that doubles as the crest. Finally I noticed what appeared to be an angelic figure (with it's head turned in pain) fused to the queen crest.

Final impression was that this object is meant to look like all of these things. That it is meant to convey Shaw (the captive angel) as a symbolic queen or mother to the queen. It doesn't really seem that far fetched that this would be the case considering what has been revealed and theorized about Shaw's fate.

Shaw sought to realize the nature of her own divinity by chasing down what she perceived as her creators. In doing so she does in fact realize her divinity, taking her place as the holy mother of the perfect organism. This object in the poster could be an illustration of her role in the process, her achievement of divinity, and her relationship with the trilobite.I believe we can all agree we are meant to see the trilobite as BigDave and others have illustrated this extensively. I'll include images I made to show the crest and angelic figure below.

 

airshaft_surprise

Mar-25-2017 3:31 PM

@BigDave, you maybe right there on your theory my friend.

The look of shock on the face of the engineer in the shaw/engineer fight seen at the last quarter of prometheus when he gets latched on by the trilo. suggests they may have had to deal with a trilo. before, especially if the engineer holograms were running from a deacon, and if the engineers were using human or engineer test subjects, they would have

had to create a trilo. to impregnate a test subject to birth a deacon, in laymans terms, david is only doing what the engineers have created before, i believe david with his sneaking around in the pyramid acquired more information about the engineers and what they were upto than what was let on in the prometheus story, he seem to know what would result from the goo infection.

Batchpool

Mar-25-2017 3:38 PM

@ Ingeniero  Well spotted. I think you're right about the urn.

DirtWolf

Apr-03-2017 12:42 AM

This is a great catch!

I was never sure if it was indeed a Deacon in the Prometheus mural.  It certainly looks like one but I was never 100% sure.  

I always thought the Deacon was an anomaly due to the fact that humans were involved in its creation process and it wouldn't have been possible to create one before humans arrived on LV-223, but the engineer-human DNA similarity could account for that.  

But the fact that there appears to be a trilobite in this new mural makes me think it might not be an anomaly.  Which is great because I love the Deacon and hoped we would see it again or that it somehow was involved in the creation of the Xenos.  

I wonder why there was no trilobite in the Prometheus mural.  As Dave pointed out, there are 2 types of facehuggers in the mural, so perhaps one is similar to the trilobite.  I wonder just how consistent the black goo is in the way it affects people and the creatures it spawns.  Like, does a trilobite always take the form of the one we saw in Prometheus?  Could different variations of the trilobite formula alter it slightly?

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