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Derelict design influence?

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dk

Mar-16-2017 12:27 PM

I thought the leg/arm part of the top picture looks like an influence on the  version of the derelict in the bottom picture. Might there be any connection?

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Dark Nebula

Mar-16-2017 12:42 PM

I suppose that Lid of the sarcophagus Wereshnefer was Giger's influence for the mural.

As for the derelict im not sure,he began working on the derelict design one night when he woke up from nightmare and couldn't sleep anymore.He worked from Ridley's comments that it should appear totally inhuman.

"Human heaven? Goodness, humans don't go to heaven.

Someone just made that up to prevent you from all going nuts."

- Kryten, Red Dwarf S3E06 "The Last Day"

dk

Mar-16-2017 12:46 PM

Dark Nebula- the similarity is undeniable- never saw that before.

Dark Nebula

Mar-16-2017 12:57 PM

Did a little research.

Giger loved Egyptian art.

Looks like the derelict was influenced by Egyptian funeral barge

http://alienexplorations.blogspot.hr/2015/01/the-alien-derelict-as-ancient-egyptian.html

"Human heaven? Goodness, humans don't go to heaven.

Someone just made that up to prevent you from all going nuts."

- Kryten, Red Dwarf S3E06 "The Last Day"

BigDave

Mar-16-2017 1:37 PM

Nice ancient findings... indeed maybe it had a influence?

I think the design that Giger did as i answered on another thread was to suggest the Derelict was indeed a Living Bio-Mechanical Organism that was very related to the Xenomorph DNA

And that the Ship produced the Eggs...

This was Gigers plans with the Mural and Egg Silo as the Mural was to be placed above what Giger referred to as Pregnant Bellies that would Birth the Eggs.

This was his concept work intention....

Its a shame this Vision was never upheld or explored in Prometheus.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

Mar-16-2017 1:44 PM

Also Gigers first design he did for Alien as far as the Alien was nothing really like the Final Designs..

Sorry for the Low Resolution but its the only image to my knowledge on the Internet of this work, that was very Female, that Evolved to the 2nd design

Which is one of TWO Prototype designs HR Giger did for Alien, now he was asked to design these after Ridley Scott was shown Gigers Necronom 4 and 3 designs....  the Actual Alien we got was kind of a mixture of those TWO.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Davefried81

Mar-16-2017 2:11 PM

Wow good catch for the Derelict.  I as well never saw that or the connection.

JazzHands

Mar-16-2017 2:34 PM

It has always reminded me of an ouroboros. 

 

Necronom 4

Mar-16-2017 6:12 PM

I can remember starting a topic in 2012 on the Prometheus-Movie forum about the funerary barge's influence on the Jockey design and I got ripped to fuckin shreds!

How times change hey?

Great topic!

 

 

The poster was good though!

 

S.M

Mar-16-2017 6:16 PM

The design influences seem to be rather stock-Giger.  Penises and vaginas.  The 'prongs' of the Derelict could be seen as legs (that are vaguely phallic until you get to he ends) with three vaginal openings in the middle.

BigDave

Mar-16-2017 6:32 PM

"I can remember starting a topic in 2012 on the Prometheus-Movie forum about the funerary barge's influence on the Jockey design and I got ripped to fuckin shreds!"

On here? or elsewhere lol

There seems to be connections but who knows how much we read into these or not.. certainly Giger stuff did have a few connections but how much we are meant to read into it who knows.

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Necronom 4

Mar-16-2017 7:11 PM

No, on that other site we used to be members of BigDave.

In fact, if I remember correctly, you was one of the only people who could see the similarities.

 

The poster was good though!

 

dk

Mar-16-2017 7:38 PM

Necronom 4- Maybe times have changed. All I can say is I wasn't around then to shred anyone. Maybe you could send that info to this thread for a re visit?

auximenes

Mar-16-2017 10:20 PM

The Juggernaut/Derelict connection to the mural sprang to mind immediately when I first saw the mural.

Necronom 4

Mar-17-2017 9:38 AM

"Necronom 4- Maybe times have changed. All I can say is I wasn't around then to shred anyone. Maybe you could send that info to this thread for a re visit?"

I would if I could find it. Have looked through my topics and can't see it anywhere.

Maybe it was just a reply I made to another members post. I have no idea.

Never mind. Not important now.

Great topic though bud!

The poster was good though!

 

Ingeniero

Mar-22-2017 10:12 PM

Fantastic point dk in regards to the Giger art influence on the Engineer ship. Everything we see of the Engineers has a theme and it all seems to fit somewhere in a Giger painting.

BigDave

Mar-23-2017 4:17 AM

Other site lol

The Prometheus one? That connects to Scified i assume, as i have not joined the other site lol... probably be banned from there lol

More Chance me staying in the USA with a Sombrero Hat ;)

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Ingeniero

Mar-23-2017 8:58 AM

I believe the movie poster is an adaptation of the below artwork.

The biomechanical archway of the top image is similar to the same structure in the movie poster, same content (xenomorph life cycle) in both.

Ingeniero

Mar-23-2017 9:00 AM

Here is the reverse value image of the movie poster to enhance shadow details.

Ingeniero

Mar-23-2017 9:03 AM

Dark Nebula, absolutely a great find. No question regarding the influence in the Giger painting.

"I suppose that Lid of the sarcophagus Wereshnefer was Giger's influence for the mural."

Dark Nebula

Mar-23-2017 9:10 AM

Mix of Giger's original mural from Alien,the mural from prometheus and Jan Van Eyck Last Judgement I presume (lower part of the painting).

Soo many biblical references.

 

"Human heaven? Goodness, humans don't go to heaven.

Someone just made that up to prevent you from all going nuts."

- Kryten, Red Dwarf S3E06 "The Last Day"

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